WMTrains livery and station branding

[Class172]

If I remember correctly consideration is also being given to retaining the existing entrance following reconstruction, however being repurposed as an additional exit, which seems a rather sensible idea.

 

[Redonian]

Great Malvern now has new station name signs which also call it "The Innovation Station"

 

[Bus1237]

>Olton: Network WM signs, orange/grey lampposts plus other WMR features
>Acocks Green: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Tyseley: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Small Heath: Network WMsigns, unpainted lampposts
>Bordesley: Network WM signs, orange/grey lampposts
>Birmingham Snow Hill: WMR signs, orange/purple lampposts

Acocks Green now orange/grey lamposts. Already mentioned but Solihull owned by Chiltern (black and blue lamposts)

 

[sufian123]

Updated list of all the WMR branded trains/stations (as of 14/10/18).
Mods - feel free to pin this to the front of the thread.

Stations
Stour Valley Line (COV-WVH, exc. COV, BHM & BHI)
With the exception of the following stations, all WMR-operated stations between Coventry & Wolverhampton are in WMR orange & grey, with Network WM or LM signage.
>Sandwell & Dudley: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Coseley: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
N.B. Wolverhampton also has WMR signage.

Cross-City Line (LTV-BMV/RDC, exc. BHM)
>Lichfield Trent Valley: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Lichfield City: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Shenstone: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Blake Street: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Butlers Lane: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Four Oaks: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Sutton Coldfield: Network WM (Olympic gold) signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Wylde Green: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Chester Road: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Erdington: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Gravelly Hill: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Aston: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Duddeston: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Five Ways: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>University: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Selly Oak: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Bournville: Network WM signs, Purple "Cadbury" lampposts
>Kings Norton: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Northfield: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Longbridge: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Barnt Green: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Alvechurch: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Redditch: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Bromsgrove: non-standard signs, blue/yellow lampposts

Snow Hill Lines (Dorridge/Stratford-u-A - Ledbury via Snow Hill & Worcester)
>Stratford-upon-Avon: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Stratford-upon-Avon Parkway: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Wilmcote: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Wootton Wawen: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Henley-in-Arden: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Danzey: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Wood End: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>The Lakes: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Earlswood: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Wythall: Network WM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Whitlocks End: Network WM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Shirley: Network WM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Yardley Wood: Network WM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Hall Green: Network WM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Spring Road: Network WM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Widney Manor: Network WM signs, orange/grey lampposts plus other WMR features
>Solihull: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts - managed by Chiltern
>Olton: Network WM signs, orange/grey lampposts plus other WMR features
>Acocks Green: Network WM signs, orange/grey lampposts plus other WMR features (confirmed as of 15/10)
>Tyseley: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Small Heath: Network WMsigns, unpainted lampposts
>Bordesley: Network WM signs, orange/grey lampposts
>Birmingham Snow Hill: WMR signs, orange/purple lampposts
>Jewellery Quarter: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>The Hawthorns: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Rowley Regis: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Old Hill: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Cradley Heath: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Lye: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Stourbridge Junction: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
(>Stourbridge Town: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts)
>Hagley: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Blakedown: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Kidderminster: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Hartlebury: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Droitwich Spa: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Worcester Shrub Hill: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Worcester Foregate Street: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Malvern Link: LM/old-style GWR signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Great Malvern: WMR "Innovation Station" signs, old-style GWR lampposts (confirmed as of 15/10)
>Colwall: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Ledbury: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts

Chase Line (Aston (exc.) - Walsall - Rugeley TV (exc.))
>Witton: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Perry Barr: Network WM signs, orange/grey lampposts (n.b. yellow handrails)
>Hamstead: Network WM signs, orange/grey lampposts (n.b. yellow handrails)
>Tame Bridge Parkway: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts (n.b. orange handrails)
>Bescot Stadium: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Walsall: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Bloxwich: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Bloxwich North: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Landywood: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Cannock: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Hednesford: Network WM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Rugeley Town: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts

Others
>Water Orton: LM signs, orange/grey lampposts
>Wilnecote: LM signs, orange/grey lampposts
>Tamworth HL: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Coleshill Parkway: LM signs, unpainted posts
>Stone: orange & white??
>Kenilworth: similar to Bromsgrove
>Coventry Arena: LM signs, green/black (LM) posts
>Bedworth: LM signs, orange/grey lampposts
>Bermuda Park: LM signs, orange/grey lampposts
>Bilbrook: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Codsall: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Albrighton: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Cosford: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Shifnal: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Telford Central: LM signs, green/black (LM) lampposts
>Oakengates: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Wellington: LM signs, old-style GWR lampposts
>Penkridge: LM signs, old-style LMS lampposts

Trains
Class 139
139001: LM livery, WMR branding
139002: LM livery, WMR branding

Class 150 (all to transfer to Northern):
150105: LM livery, WMR branding
150107: ditto
150109: ditto

Class 153 (all to transfer to EMT):
153334: LM livery, WMR branding
153354: ditto
153356: ditto
153364: ditto
153365: ditto
153366: ditto
153371: ditto
153375: ditto

Class 170/5 (2-cars, due to leave the franchise)
170501-512: WMR "outgoing" livery
170513: LM livery, WMR branding
170514-516: WMR "outgoing" livery
170517: LM livery, WMR branding

Class 170/6 (3-cars, due to leave the franchise)
170630: LM livery, WMR branding
170631: ditto
170632: ditto
170633: ditto
170634: ditto
170635: ditto

Class 172/0 (2-cars, ex-London Overground)
172001: still with LO
172002: at Tyseley (?) awaiting mods and repaint
172003: as per 001
172004: ditto
172005: ditto
172006: ditto
172007: ditto
172008: ditto

Class 172/2 (2-cars, with gangway)
172211: LM livery, WMR branding
172212: ditto
172213: ditto
172214: ditto
172215: ditto
172216: ditto
172217: ditto
172218: ditto
172219: ditto
172220: ditto
172221: ditto
172222: ditto

Class 172/3 (3-cars, with gangway)
172331: Final orange/purple WMR livery
172332: LM livery, WMR branding
172333: LM livery, WMR branding
172334: LM livery, WMR branding
172335: Final orange/purple WMR livery
172336: LM livery, WMR branding
172337: LM livery, WMR branding
172338: Final orange/purple WMR livery
172339: Prototypical purple WMR livery
172340: LM livery, WMR branding
172341: Final orange/purple WMR livery
172342: Final orange/purple WMR livery
172343: LM livery, WMR branding
172344: LM livery, WMR branding
172345: LM livery, WMR branding

Class 323 (due to leave the franchise)
323201: LM livery, WMR branding
323202-207: WMR "outgoing" livery
323208: LM livery, WMR branding
323209: WMR "outgoing" livery
323210: LM livery, WMR branding
323211: LM livery, WMR branding
323212: WMR "outgoing" livery
323213: WMR "outgoing" livery
323214: LM livery, WMR branding
323215: LM livery, WMR branding
323216: WMR "outgoing" livery
323217: LM livery, WMR branding
323218: WMR "outgoing" livery
323219: LM livery, WMR branding
323220: WMR "outgoing" livery
323221: LM livery, WMR (+ BTP) branding
323222: LM livery, WMR branding
323240: WMR "outgoing" livery
323241: LM livery, WMR branding
323242: LM livery, WMR branding
323243: LM livery, WMR branding

(NB: WCML stations and Class 230s, 319s and 350s are omitted as they fall under the LNWR umbrella and this list focuses on the WMR side of things)
Feel free to quote this post with any updates to the list!

172337 is in the new livery.

 

[59CosG95]

Acocks Green now orange/grey lamposts. Already mentioned but Solihull owned by Chiltern (black and blue lamposts)

172337 is in the new livery.

Thanks both; list now amended.

 

[Spirit555]

172337 is incomplete though. The area above both cabs is still green.

Link to Pic

https://www.flickr.com/photos/135365957@N02/31493531248/in/dateposted-public/

 

[sufian123]

172337 is incomplete though. The area above both cabs is still green

Still it has the new livery overall.

 

[Old Hill Bank]

172338 a few hours ago.

 

[centraltrains]

There seem to be painters out today at Shirley, but are just repainting/touching up in the traditional colours so I guess we're not being Tangoed..

 

[Spirit555]

Painters have now started work on Bescot Stadium. Wonder what colour the handrails will be, given that Tame Bridge is different colour to both Perry Barr and Hamstead

 

[pt_mad]

I only hope Siemens offer LNR this refresh for their first class interior (refurbished 444 Desiro First Class interior)
Not my image.
Looks like the same seats the 350s have in first but with leather covers as far as I can tell.

 

[hexagon789]

I only hope Siemens offer LNR this refresh for their first class interior (refurbished 444 Desiro interior)View attachment 54034
Looks like the same seats the 350s have in first but with leather covers as far as I can tell.

That's not half-bad, seats look reasonable, though the lighting looks a bit yellowy - possibly just the photo though.

 

[pt_mad]

That's not half-bad, seats look reasonable, though the lighting looks a bit yellowy - possibly just the photo though.

Siemens did/are doing the work afaik on the 444s so hopefully they can offer this refurb for the whole of their fleet including the 350/1s and /3s.

Perhaphs SWR specified warm lighting. I agree the existing neutral white lighting on the LNR 350s looks better.

 

[hexagon789]

Siemens did/are doing the work afaik on the 444s so hopefully they can offer this refurb for the whole of their fleet...

Hopefully they can.

Perhaphs SWR specified warm lighting. I agree the existing neutral white lighting on the LNR 350s looks better.

It's not so much the warmth as the almost "jaundiced"-glow.

 

[Bletchleyite]

That's not half-bad, seats look reasonable, though the lighting looks a bit yellowy - possibly just the photo though.

It's not half bad, no, it's fully bad. Poor seats, poor spacing and sticky, sweaty e-leather. Not justifying of the name First Class at all, and fitted to all 350s and 444s is of a noticeably lower quality and level of comfort to Standard Class.

A total sham. Remove it if you want, but don't put something out there as "First Class" which is inferior in almost every way to Standard.

Isn't that pic of a 450, though, in any case?

 

[pt_mad]

It's not half bad, no, it's fully bad. Poor seats, poor spacing and sticky, slidey leather. Not justifying of the name First Class at all, and fitted to all 350s and 444s is of a noticeably lower quality and level of comfort to Standard Class.

I think it's the existing seats as used in the 350/1 and /3 first class already, but reupholstered with new covers and arm rest covers. Someone correct me if I'm wrong and these are totally new seats but don't look it.

A lot of the Tocs are moving over to leather seats for their first class now. TPE are doing the same for their Desiro fleet.

They won't be sticky as long as they're cleaned regularly. If they're cleaned every night they should in theory be cleaner than moqiettre fabric seats. It's just that on moquette the oil and grease absorbs in but is still there. On leather it would be wipeable and wouldn't absorb into the fabric.

A lot of clinical envornenvents have leather or vinyl seating now due to them being more hygienic than fabric.

 

[Bletchleyite]

They are the original 350/450 seats and they are rubbish.

If they are, as the poster suggests, being fitted to 444s in that layout, SWR need a firm kick up the backside. This is not First Class for potentially 3 hour journeys, it is an utter sham.

 

[pt_mad]

They are the original 350/450 seats and they are rubbish.

If they are, as the poster suggests, being fitted to 444s in that layout, SWR need a firm kick up the backside. This is not First Class for potentially 3 hour journeys, it is an utter sham.

It's definitely better than going from Bedford to Brighton on a 700 seat! Northern's new seats won't be much better judging by the depth of them on photos in the 195 thread.

 

[hexagon789]

It's not half bad, no, it's fully bad. Poor seats, poor spacing and sticky, sweaty e-leather. Not justifying of the name First Class at all, and fitted to all 350s and 444s is of a noticeably lower quality and level of comfort to Standard Class.

I thought the photo was of Standard Class accomodation but refurbished with seats fitted in First Class in 350s?

 

[pt_mad]

The 444 Siemens refurb also includes leather headcovers in standard... Could potentially be offered on the 350?


Image not mine.

 

[hexagon789]

I thought the photo was of Standard Class accomodation but refurbished with seats fitted in First Class in 350s?

Never mind, seen your reply above which pretty much answers my question.

 

[hexagon789]

The 444 Siemens refurb also includes leather headcovers in standard... Could potentially be offered on the 350?

View attachment 54045

Well that looks awful. Those seats look hard!

 

[pt_mad]

Well that looks awful. Those seats look hard!

Same standard seats as now, one of the slimmer ones by Grammar I believe, just reupholstered.

 

[pt_mad]

Here is an actual photo from a facelifted 450. Just imagine it 2+2 with arm rests and you get the idea. The seats themselves are the same as used in 350 fleets.

Not my image. Credit: Wikipedia.

 

[hexagon789]

Same standard seats as now, one of the slimmer ones by Grammar I believe, just reupholstered.

It's looks quite different, very deceiving.

 

[DavidGrain]

I saw a WMR DMU in full livery go across a bridge yesterday. I was about 300 yards away. At first I thought they were long freight wagon. Not an attractive sight.

On the other hand trains in LM livery from the same view point looked like a train of small carriages as the doors and window outlines made each carriage look like three small carriages

 

[JordyWM]

Just seen a 170 at Walsall with the diamond logo on the side of the drivers cab been put on the wrong way. It’s sideways.

 

[Spirit555]

There are quite a few that have had the logo on side picked off and re-arranged.

170517 and 170634 are now tangoed, 170634 I believe is the first 3 car done. Also 323218 has had its centre car finally finished off.

Link to pic of 170634
https://www.flickr.com/photos/135365957@N02/43678902910/in/dateposted-public/

 

[sd0733]

350252 is running round this morning in new lnwr livery.

 

[Spirit555]

323211 and 323217 now tangoed as well. Both on Cross City services this morning

HTH

Mark