XC HST diagrams

Discussion in 'Allocations, Diagrams & Timetables' started by cactustwirly, 20 Aug 2018.

  1. cactustwirly

    cactustwirly Established Member

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    Since the ones on the frequently requested diagrams thread are out of date, can anyone confirm whether the 1112 BHM - PLY is a HST on the 3rd November?
    Thanks in advance
     
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  3. Thunderer

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    Derby alterations should be complete by this date, so I would say this will be a HST working 1V50 06:06 Edinburgh to Plymouth. At the moment with the Derby blockade, this service is a Voyager with the HST passing through Birmingham an hour later on the 1V52 07:00 Edinburgh to Plymouth.
     
  4. AndrewE

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    Go to the HST supporters website which is linked from the diagrams thread. It's all there...
     
  5. cactustwirly

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    But those diagrams aren't quite right, some of those services listed are actually Voyagers
     
  6. AndrewE

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    If you mean even on the Derby blockade section, thanks for the warning, it might have saved me from an unpleasant journey (and a wasted day.) Is it safe to rely on RTT timing loads, or is that what you have based the correction on? Where can we get the real diagrams?
     
  7. cactustwirly

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    The 0601 GLC - PGN on the list is actually a 221 to Plymouth...
     
  8. cactustwirly

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    No the Timing loads may not be correct either, the best way is to trace out the diagram to see where it starts, if it starts/ends at Crofton or Central Rivers then obviously it is a 22x
     
  9. Mag_seven

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    Is 1V52 and return the only mid-week XC HST diagram at the moment (Derby Blockade)?
     
  10. cactustwirly

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    The 1224 PLY - EDI appears to be a 220 on the 4th of November.
    Can anyone confirm the HST diagrams on the Sunday?
    Does anyone know why it's impossible to book seat reservations on flexible tickets that weekend
     
  11. brompton rail

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    The two early starts from Leeds (05.44 & 06.16) are currently HSTs, both are Plymouth bound. XC’s website daily amendments list all the HSTs as being ‘7 coaches High Speed Train’.
    journeycheck.com/xc
     
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  12. Mag_seven

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    There appear to be more midweek HST diagrams now - both 1S52 12.24 Plymouth Edinburgh and 1E56 13.25 Plymouth Newcastle are HSTs today.
     
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  14. yorkie

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    Does anyone know the planned HST workings for 20th October please?
    Thanks :)
     
  15. cactustwirly

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    Should be the same as the usual southbound (from Birmingham) and +1 hour from Bristol.
    Northbound +1 hour from Bristol, but +2 from Birmingham.
     
  16. 221129

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    Eh???
     
  17. 221129

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    1V44 / 1S51
    1V48 / 1S55
    1V52 / 1E67
    1V54 / 1E73

    as far as I know...
     
  18. 43055

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    THe 06:11 Leeds to Plymouth and 12:25 Return to Glasgow and the 06:06 Edinburgh to Plymouth and 15:25 Return are HST's.

    Could well be but looking at Real Time Trains for the Friday before it looks like the HST for the 1225 Plymouth on Sunday is on the 13:07 from Edinburgh which is the same as the diagrams from before the May timetable. I could be wrong though.

    No. The HST's have been terminating at Exeter and returning a hour earlier from Exeter to enable them to be on the correct times north of Birmingham.
     
  19. 221129

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    RTT isn't everything you know...
     
  20. SC43090

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    For a few weeks from 08/10/18 after the Derby blockade finishes on 07/10/18 the XC HST turns as should be as quoted by 43055 also on Mondays should be 1V46 0640 York Plymouth RTN on 1S53 1325 Plymouth Edinburgh & on Friday the 1V64 1307 Edinburgh Plymouth.... RTN on Sunday from Plymouth.......

    Later on in October & most of November XC services are diverted between Cheltenham Spa & Bristol TM via Stroud, Kemble, Swindon & Bath Spa so HST diagrams will be altered again......

    SC43090
     
  21. yorkie

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    Edit: this would mean I'd have to get the 2003 from BHM which annoyingly doesn't go to York. I'll book that if it's definitely HST though.
    1525 from Plymouth (1903 from BHM) is showing as Voyager on the seat selector, however I have known this to be incorrect so you could be right. I'd far rather this be the HST rather than the 2003, so I hope you're right!
     
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    What I posted is what is on the wall in the office from Control. Although I don't know how long it's been there, I'll do some more in-depth looking when I get in this afternoon.
     
  23. Mitchell Hurd

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    According the XC HST diagrams from today, the 06:45 York - Plymouth, therefore 13:25 Plymouth - Edinburgh is meant to be an HST. On the JourneyCheck, this is an 8-coach Voyager and the 06:01 Glasgow - Plymouth and 16:25 Plymouth - Leeds service is a 7-coach HST.

    If this is permanent then that's gonna be fun. I know an 8-coach Voyager is better than 4 coaches in use but for those that like HST's, it won't be great not having the back up of one an hour later from the South West to the North East / Scotland (e.g 13:25 after the 12:25 on Mondays)

    I guess it could be temporary so that the trains end up in the right place.
     
  24. 221129

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    What are you on about? 1V46 is a HST today as booked on a Monday.
     
  25. 221129

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    1V46 has always been a double set during the week in the normal timetable. And will be again...
     
  26. Mitchell Hurd

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    I'm very sorry. Turns out I was looking at the 06:45 Newcastle to Plymouth service. Good to see an extra HST in use today which is the 06:01 of Glasgow!
     
  27. sufian123

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    One off due to voyager not being available.
     
  28. yorkie

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    Thanks. Do you know if I'm safe to book yet? :)
     
  29. 43055

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    Does anyone know why there is a XC HST at Tyseley today? It only had one Power Car on the set so there could be a problem with the other one.
     
  30. sprinterguy

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    Wheelflats were identified on trailing power car 43366 while working 1S51 12:25 Plymouth - Glasgow on Monday, so the service was terminated at Bromsgrove post haste and the HST set subsequently sent to Tyseley for stabling. It's likely that 43366 has gone for a spin on the wheel lathe there.
     
  31. 43055

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    Ok thank you. I didn't see that power car so it looks like it has gone on the lathe.
     

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