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DaveHarries

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Hi all,

I am working on a SimSig TT at the moment and am currently putting in the trains from Bristol to Manchester. The National Rail TT on Network Rail's website gives the timing loads as Class 221s.

However I think the Manchester ones are, in fact, 220s. Or at least some of them are. Am I correct with this and, if so, which workings does this apply to?

Cheers,
Dave
 
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The Planner

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Makes no difference, SRTs are the same. Tilting 221s have their own timing load of 221-T
 

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The Cross Country class 221s have the tilt mechanism isolated so they can operated with 220s so I'd image there would only need to be one lot of timings.
 

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Cheers guys but I need to know which ones are run by which class so that I can ultimately set the train length as needed!

Dave
 

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0700 BRI - MAN: 220
0800 BRI - MAN: 220 (0700 ex-CDF)
0900 BRI - MAN: 220 (0702 ex-PGN)
1000 BRI - MAN: 221
1100 BRI - MAN: 221
1200 BRI - MAN: 221 (1007 ex-PGN)
1300 BRI - MAN: 220
1400 BRI - MAN: 220 (0940 ex-PNZ)
1500 BRI - MAN: 220
1600 BRI - MAN: 220 (1404 ex-PGN)
1700 BRI - MAN: 220
1800 BRI - MAN: 221 (1654 ex-EXD)
1900 BRI - MAN: 221
2000 BRI - BHM: 220
2030 BRI - BHM: 220 (1825 ex-PLY; forms 1H99 2230 BHM-MAN)
2200 BRI - BHM: 220 (2014 ex-PGN)

Could be wrong on some.
 
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DaveHarries

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Thanks Dan. Will set things up as those and make amendments as necessary if someone corrects this.

Dave
 

DaveHarries

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No worries: someone has emailed me their log from last Friday so I will base my SimSig diagram on that.

Dave
 

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0700 BRI - MAN: 220
0800 BRI - MAN: 220 (0700 ex-CDF)
0900 BRI - MAN: 220 (0702 ex-PGN)
1000 BRI - MAN: 221
1100 BRI - MAN: 221
1200 BRI - MAN: 221 (1007 ex-PGN)
1300 BRI - MAN: 220
1400 BRI - MAN: 220 (0940 ex-PNZ)
1500 BRI - MAN: 220
1600 BRI - MAN: 220 (1404 ex-PGN)
1700 BRI - MAN: 220
1800 BRI - MAN: 221 (1654 ex-EXD)
1900 BRI - MAN: 221
2000 BRI - BHM: 220
2030 BRI - BHM: 220 (1825 ex-PLY; forms 1H99 2230 BHM-MAN)
2200 BRI - BHM: 220 (2014 ex-PGN)

Could be wrong on some.

1M33 1000 ex BRI is booked a 220/0 all the other 221's are correct.
 

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0700 221124
0800 221131
0900 220028
1000 220014
1100 220034
1200 221119
1300 221140
1400 220006
1500 220013
1600 220012
1700 220001
1800 221135
1900 221126
2000 221132
2030 220022
2200 220016

So as you can see. Booked for 220/221 is one thing. In practise the reality is often different
 

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Today
0700 221124
0800 221131
0900 220028
1000 220014
1100 220034
1200 221119
1300 221140
1400 220006
1500 220013
1600 220012
1700 220001
1800 221135
1900 221126
2000 221132
2030 220022
2200 220016

So as you can see. Booked for 220/221 is one thing. In practise the reality is often different

0700 BRI-MAN is booked 221
 
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