XC Vogager running between Nottingham and Cardiff Central

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  1. I like Class 153

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    What's was a XC vogager doing on the Birmingham New Street to Nottingham service and then later I saw it head for Cardiff Central?, I thought it was always 170
     
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    There was a voyager working I think it was the 08:45 Cardiff - Nottingham service last week.

    I have seen it happen a few times although I dont think they go all the way to Nottingham I think it is only as far as Birmingham where passengers board a class 170.

    I think a class 170 has been used to cover for a class 220 before one one of crosscountrys other routes as well
     
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    You will see more of this in the coming weeks as there is currently a 170 shortage on XC
     
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    Why is there a shortage of 170's and when are the vogagers booked for on that route?
     
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    None are booked, just ad hoc replacements.
    A few 170s are out of service at the moment
     
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    Some Voyager vice 170s are due to Senior Conductor non availability as well
     
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    *Waits for first person to complain about how not fair it is that they have to put with Vogagers and how they ought to use HSTs.*
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    How's that work, then? I know the doors on Vogagers are worked by the Driver, but they'd still need a guard or conductor, as appropriate, wouldn't they?
     
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    We have two types of guard at XC
    Train Mangagers - ex Virgin XC so sign Voyagers
    Senior Conductors - ex Central Trains so sign 170s

    So in the case of the Nottingham - Cardiff trains, and Birmingham - Leicester, if a Senior Conductor is not available for whatever reason but there is a Train Manager then the service could be worked by a Voyager (Subject to TM signing the road)
     
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    I am aware that Voyagers occasionally work diagrams between Birmingham and Leicester in place of the usual class 170. Does anyone know if they have ever gone all the way to Stansted, or are they only cleared as far as Leicester? I know when the Birmingham-Derby route via Burton is closed, XC sometimes divert Voyagers and HST's on NE-SW services via Leicester and the MML.
     
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    Voyagers are not cleared into Stansted. I don't think there is anything stopping them going to, say, Cambridge from Birmingham though. Don't sign that way so not 100% sure
     
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    A 221 was on the 0945 Cardiff - Nottingham about two Saturdays ago.
     
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    Platform 2 at Stansted has now been extended also the signal has been moved further so pretty much a Voyager can now run to Stansted. But it will have more severe speed restrictions not being allowed SP boards
     
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