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On the contrary, press on with the MML. That lays the bedrock to expand in future control periods to branch out and link up the electrified network in all directions across the country.
Sadly, the HST's must be replaced soon so it makes sense to continue.

I would disagree the majority of the MML fleet is only half life with the Class 222's while the HST's could be life extended or a replacement looked at in the medium term. It would stop Network rail being too ambitious and unable to deliver and keep costs hopefully down to reasonable levels even if there is cost overrun on other projects. Maybe some sort of start can be made to Kettering, with the rest in CP7 but with HS2 I would have thought the overall business case is less strong particularly taking it right up to Sheffield.

One thing is for sure whatever they do in CP6 needs to be delivered on time and on budget.
 
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I would disagree the majority of the MML fleet is only half life with the Class 222's while the HST's could be life extended or a replacement looked at in the medium term. It would stop Network rail being too ambitious and unable to deliver and keep costs hopefully down to reasonable levels even if there is cost overrun on other projects. Maybe some sort of start can be made to Kettering, with the rest in CP7 but with HS2 I would have thought the overall business case is less strong particularly taking it right up to Sheffield.

One thing is for sure whatever they do in CP6 needs to be delivered on time and on budget.

I still disagree. HS2 will not reach the East Midlands and Sheffield for many years yet, and even when it does, for any benefit to the three major citys the existing infrastructure must be modernised to provide acceptable connections to and from the hub. Extending the tram from Nottingham to Derby is not an acceptable option as the journey would be ridiculously long.
HST's are already on their last legs and won't last until HS2. It's a fleet departments nightmare keeping them going now.
No electrification should be cancelled, but especially not the MML. To do so would be incredibly short sighted, and court even bigger problems in the medium to long term.
 

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I still disagree. HS2 will not reach the East Midlands and Sheffield for many years yet --
-- especially not the MML. To do so would be incredibly short sighted, and court even bigger problems in the medium to long term.

Totally agree. What ****es me off big time is that this had an infinite BCR - was even planned/desired as long ago as the 1980s and should have been done ahead of the politicians wet dream of the GWML.

Now what I could live with is - electrify to Leicester (2019 -2020 ish) - if on time and on budget then to Derby (21-23 ish) - if on time and on budget then infill to Nottingham (23ish to 24 ish). If on time and on budget onwards to Sheffield in early CP7. All the time reducing the amount of time your bimode is on diesel power.
 

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Totally agree. What ****es me off big time is that this had an infinite BCR - was even planned/desired as long ago as the 1980s and should have been done ahead of the politicians wet dream of the GWML.

Now what I could live with is - electrify to Leicester (2019 -2020 ish) - if on time and on budget then to Derby (21-23 ish) - if on time and on budget then infill to Nottingham (23ish to 24 ish). If on time and on budget onwards to Sheffield in early CP7. All the time reducing the amount of time your bimode is on diesel power.

...and Brum to Derby and Sheffield to Wakefield and Doncaster in mid-late CP7 are the natural follow on schemes.

By then you'd have Scotland to Bromsgrove, hopefully Bristol and Cardiff wired on the XC network.
 

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Maybe some sort of start can be made to Kettering, with the rest in CP7

According to recent posts in the EM Electrification thread, electrification work (re-)starts in earnest in the next couple of months with piling between Kettering and Corby. Earlier posts in that thread suggest that 4-tracking South of Kettering will also be done in 2017-2018, so that suggests an intention to meet the 2019 deadline.

Easy to see the rest being further deferred, especially if bi-modes allow the program to be broken down into smaller schemes e.g. Kettering-Leicester, Leicester-Trent etc... to be delivered later in CP6, CP7, CPNever.
 

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According to recent posts in the EM Electrification thread, electrification work (re-)starts in earnest in the next couple of months with piling between Kettering and Corby. Earlier posts in that thread suggest that 4-tracking South of Kettering will also be done in 2017-2018, so that suggests an intention to meet the 2019 deadline.

Easy to see the rest being further deferred, especially if bi-modes allow the program to be broken down into smaller schemes e.g. Kettering-Leicester, Leicester-Trent etc... to be delivered later in CP6, CP7, CPNever.

I stand to be corrected, but are current bi-modes only rated up to 125 on electric and 100mph on diesel?
If so then the wires should reach Derby and Nottingham at the very least.
 

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No, the 802s are 125mph capable on both systems, and there's been much talk of performing the modifications to some of the GW 800s.
 
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I would disagree the majority of the MML fleet is only half life with the Class 222's while the HST's could be life extended or a replacement looked at in the medium term. It would stop Network rail being too ambitious and unable to deliver and keep costs hopefully down to reasonable levels even if there is cost overrun on other projects. Maybe some sort of start can be made to Kettering, with the rest in CP7 but with HS2 I would have thought the overall business case is less strong particularly taking it right up to Sheffield.

One thing is for sure whatever they do in CP6 needs to be delivered on time and on budget.

Sheffield and Chesterfield will have to be electrified for services coming off the HS2 spur anyway so it makes sense to fill in the rest of the MML between Kettering and Chesterfield via Derby. If you are doing that then you might as well electrify to Nottingham and have a fully electric service. When the MML gets done is another matter, we will have to wait and see.
 

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Roger Ford's e-preview of his column in the June Modern Railways is out.

HLOS Lite for CP6

First, some good news. Thanks to the reclassification of Network Rail as a government body, there’s going to be a lot less for me to bore you with in the current Periodic Review for the next Control Period (CP6) starting on 1 April 2019. Now that Network Rail is part of the Department for Transport, rather than a quasi-independent company limited by guarantee, Government can by-pass much of the Regulatory process and tell Network Rail what it’s going to do and how much money it’s going to get to do it.

What will remain, because it is a legal requirement under the 2005 Railways Act, is the Governments’ (Westminster and the Scottish Ministers) publication of their High Level Output Specifications and Statements of Funds Available (HLOS and SoFA). Meanwhile Network Rail has produced what is termed ‘Initial Industry Advice’ (IIA) to inform the HLOS. DfT is keeping this private.

At a recent Network Rail industry trade press briefing I asked Chief Executive Mark Carne why DfT had decided not to publish the IIA. Mark replied that it was important not to raise expectations based on industry aspirations at a time of considerable financial challenge. The IIA needs to be considered ‘more carefully and strategically’, he explained.

Mark continued, ‘now, we have to develop schemes properly and only announce them when they are mature. Otherwise, all we do is raise expectations which we then dash in the public’s eyes which then bring us into disrepute as being less than competent’.

As a result, DfT’s HLOS and SoFA for CP6, which has to be published by July 20, will focus on Operations, Maintenance and Renewals (OMR). Those existing enhancement programmes being carried over into CP6 following Sir Peter Hendy’s review, should have first call on any spare funding. New enhancement schemes will be introduced only as and when they have been developed fully, provided they represent value for money and then only if funding is available.

Even restricting the HLOS to OMR will involve some hard choices. Informed Sources are reporting that minimum renewals budgets for CP6 are approximating to the likely maximum budget available.

That’s the relatively not-so-bad news. Now for the real damage.

On 27 April Network Rail published the minutes for its September 2016 Board meeting. And these revealed that the Treasury is ‘requiring’ that the proceeds from the current asset disposal programme should go towards reducing the national deficit.

Let’s put some numbers on this. In 2015 Sir Peter Hendy’s review of Network Rail’s enhancement programme for the current Control Period identified cost overruns of around £2.5 billion. To cover the bulk of the shortfall, Network Rail said it would sell assets worth £1.8 billion. the Treasury increased Network Rail’s government borrowing by £700 million to make up the difference. Asset sales have raised £24.2 million so far.

With masterly understatement the Board minutes noted that the Treasury’s appropriation of the asset sales receipts implied ‘a realistic prospect of a significant shortfall in funding’, since the sales receipts would no longer be available to fund rail enhancement schemes.

I don’t expect to see subsequent Board minutes published anytime soon, but it can’t have been a coincidence that six weeks after that September Board meeting DfT announced the deferral of four sections of the Great Western Electrification Programme. More schemes are being deferred or cancelled, including enhancements on the East Coast Main Line.

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All this, of course, impacts on the supply industry. When I asked Mark Carne about the effect on contractors of the lack of an enhancements programme in the CP6 HLOS, he replied that in the past ‘we gave them (contractors) false certainty. The sense that there was this endless pipeline of work, was a bit of an illusion because it wasn’t mature and the time frames were wrong’. In future Network Rail intends to have ‘a more transparent funnel of projects we are looking at’, but which are not commitments.

Of course, contractors have bought equipment and opened up colleges to train staff to handle the Government’s much vaunted ‘largest investment in our railways since Victorian times’. ‘What about them’, I asked Mark Carne? The reply was brutal in its honesty. ‘We don’t plan all of our projects in a way that manages the capacity of the industry’.

While Network Rail would want to ensure continuity of employment wherever possible, Mark added, ‘I would far rather do that on the basis of firm clear commitments that I can stand behind and that I am confident we will deliver than a series of illusions which don’t have substance behind them’.

He believes that ultimately the market will value this approach because contractors will have confidence that that a project is going to happen and is ‘something we can commit to’. The phrase ‘once bitten, twice shy’ springs to mind.
 

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My impression was that the original purpose of the asset sale was to pay for already committed (i.e. CP5) schemes in view of the fact that some schemes (notably GW elec) were coming in way over budget. So if the Treasury now commandeers the receipts, that would leave NR unable to pay for already committed schemes?

Of course, that's assuming the asset sales reach the preassigned figure - they're currently 1.3% of the way there.

Presumably the Treasury is still forcing NR to try to reach 100% even though the railway will now not benefit from the sales? Otherwise NR would now have no motive to comply.
 

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The chancellor used to be a car salesman.
Legally, the status of the income from asset sales has always been the treasury's. It used to be the case for closed hospitals, until they gives the NHS into trusts.
 

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Another indicator that the intent is to take major projects out of NR's remit.
 

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The wish list of projects on here would have to be completed with considerably less money that is for certain (figures of a 15% budget cut over the control period have been bandied about).
 
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Another indicator that the intent is to take major projects out of NR's remit.

Why not? They have brilliant teams from consultants managing Crossrail and HS2, so why not 9 figure Mainline enhancement schemes? On the ground the people delivering IP schemes gain no benefit from the NR IP link in the chain.
 

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Why not? They have brilliant teams from consultants managing Crossrail and HS2, so why not 9 figure Mainline enhancement schemes? On the ground the people delivering IP schemes gain no benefit from the NR IP link in the chain.

No reason at all why they don't, and it is something that I support, have suggested, and would welcome.
 

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The property sale assets seizure has been cancelled.

https://www.transport-network.co.uk/Exclusive-Government-climbdown-on-Network-Rail-cash-raid/14120

Exclusive: Government climbdown on Network Rail cash raid said:
The Government has backtracked over a threat to put £1.8bn from a sale of Network Rail assets towards cutting the deficit, Transport Network can reveal.

However, the infrastructure operator could still be forced to cut maintenance work and drop planned upgrade works because of a funding shortfall.

As Transport Network reported earlier this month, the Network Rail board was told in September that ‘HMT were now requiring the proceeds of the asset disposals programme to count to deficit reduction thus handicapping NR’s use of the cash to fund rail enhancement schemes'.

However, a spokesperson for the Department for Transport told Transport Network: ‘Network Rail is continuing to sell assets to generate more funding for the Railway Upgrade Plan. These proceeds will not be used to pay off the deficit.’

It remains unclear how much progress the rail infrastructure operator has made in raising the £1.8bn that the 2015 Hendy review identified should be secured by the sale of ‘non-core assets’ to fill the majority of a £2.5bn black hole in funding towards works in Control Period 5, which runs until 2019.

A Network Rail spokesperson said: ‘We have been working closely with colleagues across Government to assess the assets we had earmarked to sell following the Hendy Review. This process is ongoing.’

The company did not provide any information in response to a request from Transport Network on how much money it has so far raised or expects to raise and would not confirm whether it has actually sold any assets, as DfT stated it had.

Network Rail is already reported to be in significant financial difficultly. Last week it emerged that contractor Carillion is planning job cuts and redundancies as a result of spending cuts.

Rail expert Christian Wolmar told Transport Network that he understood that Network Rail had achieved very little by way of asset sales and that a failure to realise the £1.8bn could result in cuts to both maintenance upgrade works.

He said: ‘It’s very clear that there is a crisis looming over this. What would happen is that they would have to make some cuts in maintenance, which would not put passengers’ lives at risk but would undoubtedly lead to temporary speed restrictions – and that is the benchmark if they are really under financial crisis – resulting in extra delays.

‘The other thing is that if, as expected, a lot of projects are overrunning it’s going to result in projects being kicked into touch, which we have already seen to some extent. We will see a cutback undoubtedly, in what’s going to go into Control Period 6. They are going to have to carry things over and therefore there will be very few new schemes.’

He said: ‘They are hit in different ways but they are both [maintenance and upgrade work] going to suffer. We will see that happening, I think quite soon.’

Labour's shadow transport secretary, Andy McDonald, told Transport Network: 'These [Carrillion] cuts are a result of the Tories’ wasteful mismanagement of our railways. With punctuality at a 10-year low and safety already compromised by staffing cuts, the Conservatives should be aiming to make our rail network safer and more reliable.'
 

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Why not? They have brilliant teams from consultants managing Crossrail and HS2, so why not 9 figure Mainline enhancement schemes? On the ground the people delivering IP schemes gain no benefit from the NR IP link in the chain.

No reason at all why they don't, and it is something that I support, have suggested, and would welcome.

I'm not quite sure who you mean by "they".
The bulk of Crossrail and nearly all of HS2 are separate from the classic NR network and are to a degree blank sheets of paper and "green fields" to start with.
The classic network has all the baggage of 175+ years of evolution and changing practices and standards, and asset knowledge is NR's Achilles heel.
Importing Bechtel or high-flying consultants and PMs isn't going to solve the problems of enhancing historic structures.
The crucial part of NR is the Route structure and the day-to-day management of those assets.
Supposedly in the latest NR organisation they are getting greater powers to manage the individual Routes more effectively in the future, with IP taking a supporting role.
 

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With the loss of it's majority, I am expecting a very bumpy ride of all currently proposed but unfunded projects. The Government will not risk exposure to vote of no confidence, so anything with even moderate opposition within the party and on the opposition benches is going to be off the table, at least until after late 2018. A re-balancing of funding from rail to road may now be on the cards.
 

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With the loss of it's majority, I am expecting a very bumpy ride of all currently proposed but unfunded projects. The Government will not risk exposure to vote of no confidence, so anything with even moderate opposition within the party and on the opposition benches is going to be off the table, at least until after late 2018. A re-balancing of funding from rail to road may now be on the cards.

Funny - I think the exact opposite.
 

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Why? The government must be horrified by the escalating costs of current projects. Admittedly, some of this is due to the unforgivable failure to request certain easements of electrification clearances.
 

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Projects are more likely to be funded because everyone will demand their pet project gets money as the price of their support.

Bear in mind that not all votes are confidence votes, so losing a vote isn't fatal for the government. The DUP have apparently signed up for a "confidence and supply" deal, where they'll support them in these critical votes, but the rest is case by case.
 

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Funny - I think the exact opposite.

If you mean the major projects such as HS2 and CR2 have you considered the leverage that the low working majority offers those Conservative MPs that have objected to either project; they only need to refuse to support the annual treasury bill, or to threaten to support a no opposition no-confidence vote to block or roll-back (i.e. blocking funds) legislation.

The Wimbledon MP said he would block CR2 before the election was called, and is now in a very strong position.

There has been demand for work on the roads in the North country which fall within Conservative or winable constituencies. Funding for those projects will get a higher priority than anything serving the northern cities - they are solid Labour so why waste the effort (both the Osbourne and May eras are over and it is back to the hardcore now - that also means a compromise on Brexit as well).

Anything that exposes the PM to a no-confidence vote supported by party members - i.e. those issues which can not be compromised by negotiations by the Whip - will get pushed back - at least until late 2018.

The mess, and the potential pitfalls that this result has created is one or two orders of turmoil above what most people have considered so far.
 
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Why? The government must be horrified by the escalating costs of current projects. Admittedly, some of this is due to the unforgivable failure to request certain easements of electrification clearances.

Both the Government and the Treasury have deep concerns, and have done so for some time.

A further significant fall in the GBP will assist exports but will push-up inflation just as the economy is cooling. Fortunately we avoided a downgrade but it can not be far off - especially if there is now an ill-advised leadership challenge.
 

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Projects are more likely to be funded because everyone will demand their pet project gets money as the price of their support.

Bear in mind that not all votes are confidence votes, so losing a vote isn't fatal for the government. The DUP have apparently signed up for a "confidence and supply" deal, where they'll support them in these critical votes, but the rest is case by case.

There will be nearly as many that will object. Some issues may get through with opposition support, but the objectors just need to shift to obstructing other legislation such as the annual Treasury bill - to cause mayhem.

Virtually every vote is going to be a no-confidence vote. One or two bye-elections and a death is what usually does it. It will be very hard for the Government to continue till Christmas; it might make it into the new year, but there is so much that can cause a crisis. Add to that the inevitable collapse in growth and the rise in unemployment.
 

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Yep - political suicide to kill projects especially in conservative marginal. I would bet good money MML sparks goes ahead.

There is no money for MML to be completed, and it was even doubtful it would get funding in CP6 before the election.
 

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The Conservative Party will be on a continous election footing from now onwards, there might be a snap general election at any time if any major legislation fails.

It will do nothing that could generate negative headlines in any Tory marginals (and it suddenly appears their are a hell of a lot more marginals than there used to be).

Given that Rail upgrade projects are a negligible component of public spending, I very much doubt that any will be seriously curtailed as a result of the election.
It is also worth noting that funding infrastructure is a major labour policy, so support for CR2 et al will likely be forthcoming from the opposition benches

There is no money for MML to be completed, and it was even doubtful it would get funding in CP6 before the election.

Given public spending in CP6 will be something on order of £3500 billion, buying votes by approving rail spending is hardly expensive.
 
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In the current febrile atmosphere, even starting up HS2 might be problematic.
Tory MPs in the Chilterns and (eg) Lichfield are still very hostile.
Labour might support HS2 in principle but they are not going to let any opportunity pass to stall the government.
 
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