Highlandspring
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The isolation necessary to effect repairs took out electrical subsections as far as south as Abington.
Cheers for the info.The isolation necessary to effect repairs took out electrical subsections as far as south as Abington.
I am pretty sure there would have been a loco availble at Edinburgh in B R days. On friday night there was not hence after a good effort by many to get the southbound Highlander away as soon as possible it sat at Haymarket for two hours!I don’t think BR would have kept spare locos & drivers just for the Sleeper. It’s nothing to do with “fragmented railway”
The 66 came from Millerhill Yard - 6 miles from Haymarket. The two hours presumably included a fair bit of 'working out what to do' time...?? (same in any era!)I am pretty sure there would have been a loco availble at Edinburgh in B R days. On friday night there was not hence after a good effort by many to get the southbound Highlander away as soon as possible it sat at Haymarket for two hours!
Might have been (DB ones probably) - but Millerhill Yard is almost 30 miles closer to Haymarket and had a GB 66 sat in it.From Millerhill? Are there not diesel locos based at Mossend?
I am pretty sure there would have been a loco availble at Edinburgh in B R days. On friday night there was not hence after a good effort by many to get the southbound Highlander away as soon as possible it sat at Haymarket for two hours!
Really ?? is it beyond the wit of Serco to move a few bikes labelled with destination ! So much for wonderful privatised companies. The railwaymen of 60 years ago will be laughing their socks off.This is a really cool thread! Some of the technicalities are going over my head a wee bit but the content is interesting nonetheless.
By the way, I got a reply from customer services regarding the folding bike situation. If it goes in the guard wagon then almost certainly I'll need to get up at Edinburgh to move it. Their advice is to keep it in the room if I want to avoid that situation.
I wonder why this is? Presumably I would say it is to a) reduce the work for their own staff having to move heavy objects, and b) from a liability point of view, so they can't end up damaging your stuff or accidentally sending it on the wrong portion of the train.
Organising a loco at short notice in the middle of the night is never straightforward and requires lots of factors to come together:From Millerhill? Are there not diesel locos based at Mossend?
The Euston to Aberdeen and Fort William were cancelled last night (stock out of position) with everyone on the Euston Inverness. Buses from Kingussie for Fort William passengers; and ScotRail trains from Perth for Aberdeen ones. I don't know any more details.What happened to last night's Aberdeen portion? The service shows as cancelled, but looks like it ran as ECS at roughly the same timings.
Perhaps of more interest, what happened to the passengers?
The Euston to Aberdeen and Fort William were cancelled last night (stock out of position) with everyone on the Euston Inverness. Buses from Kingussie for Fort William passengers; and ScotRail trains from Perth for Aberdeen ones. I don't know any more details.
It's almost like you sit in a control room dealing with these things for real rather than in an armchair!!Organising a loco at short notice in the middle of the night is never straightforward and requires lots of factors to come together:
There’s actually a huge amount of inter-company cooperation and good will involved in these things but it’s no use having a DB Cargo class 66 available at Mossend with a driver sat on it if there’s a possession on which would take 4 hours to give up preventing it leaving the yard, or if the only available driver books off at 0400 and it’s 0330 now....
- Where is the nearest loco from the same FOC?
- Are there other FOC locos in the vicinity that could reasonably be used?
- Is any other FOC involved willing to allow their assets to be used (NR can only comandeer locos once they’re out on the network and then only to clear the line)?
- Is the available loco compatible with the route(s) and rolling stock?
- Is there a suitable driver available?
- What route knowledge does the driver have?
- What traction knowledge does the driver have?
- Are there possessions or isolations which would prevent a particular loco being used?
- Could possessions or isolations be given up in a reasonable timescale to allow a loco to pass?
The FTW was certainly due to run ECS. Might have been that it was conveying staff and therefore ran as a Class 1, or just not amended in the system.Real Time Trains shows the Fort William portion running normally, just the Aberdeen portion cancelled.
Tonight's sleeper from Euston has been cancelled.
What rights do passengers have? When I go, nothing other than waking up in Inverness will do for me.
Tonight's sleeper from Euston has been cancelled.
What rights do passengers have? When I go, nothing other than waking up in Inverness will do for me.
They need to get you to your destination and, if your arrival there is 60 minutes or more minutes late, then they need to give you your money back.Tonight's sleeper from Euston has been cancelled.
What rights do passengers have? When I go, nothing other than waking up in Inverness will do for me.
The Guest Charter on the CS website (sleeper.scot) explains the "rights" of passengers in these situations.Tonight's sleeper from Euston has been cancelled.
What rights do passengers have? When I go, nothing other than waking up in Inverness will do for me.
I am pretty sure there would have been a loco availble at Edinburgh in B R days. On friday night there was not hence after a good effort by many to get the southbound Highlander away as soon as possible it sat at Haymarket for two hours!
As noted above, 1S25 (INV portion) will still run in the morning EDB-INV as a passenger/day train.My main concern however, is that I'm booked to return to London on the sleeper tomorrow night...
Between Wamphray and Lockerbie.