Proposing new rail services that currently do not exist!

[Jorge Da Silva]

Ok you have been tasked to create direct links between stations which currently do not exist.

No new infrastructure should be required to create the service you propose

I'll start:

extend LNER's Lincoln service twice a day to Cleethorpes via Market Rasen, Barnetby, Habrough, Grimsby Town and Cleethorpes using Class 800's.

 

[sussexbythesea]

Extend (or introduce a new service) the Brighton to Southampton Central services to Bournemouth to provide links across the south coast

Introduce an additional hourly Southampton to Bristol/Cardiff GWR service (extending to Brighton every two hours)

Norwich to York (via ECML?) to improve Norfolk's connections with the North?

Extend to Milton Keynes - East Croydon service to Brighton southwards, (or Gatwick if no paths south of Three Bridges), and Birmingham northwards.

 

[Jorge Da Silva]

Extend (or introduce a new service) the Brighton to Southampton Central services to Bournemouth to provide links across the south coast

Introduce an additional hourly Southampton to Bristol/Cardiff GWR service (extending to Brighton every two hours)

Norwich to York (via ECML?) to improve Norfolk's connections with the North?

Extend to Milton Keynes - East Croydon service to Brighton southwards, (or Gatwick if no paths south of Three Bridges), and Birmingham northwards.

Is there enough capacity between Birmingham and Milton Keynes Central?? It was originally planned that the service should have been Birmingham-Brighton via WLL but lack of capacity has restricted it to its present day service.

 

[Kingspanner]

Saltburn and Middlesbrough to Durham and Newcastle via Stockton and the Stillington branch. This gamechanger has been discussed in the Northern timetable request thread. Thought to be a nonstarter due to lack of paths on the ECML north of Ferryhill. Shame

 

[Jorge Da Silva]

Saltburn and Middlesbrough to Durham and Newcastle via Stockton and the Stillington branch. This gamechanger has been discussed in the Northern timetable request thread. Thought to be a nonstarter due to lack of paths on the ECML north of Ferryhill. Shame

It is a shame.

I was thinking of another one, what about Hull to Southampton and Reading by diverting the Newcastle to reading service this may free up space for a Saltburn/Middlesborough to Newcastle service. The reason for this service is to improve connections to Hull.

 

[NoMorePacers]

It is a shame.

I was thinking of another one, what about Hull to Southampton and Reading by diverting the Newcastle to reading service this may free up space for a Saltburn/Middlesborough to Newcastle service. The reason for this service is to improve connections to Hull.

Would you route this via Goole or via Selby?

 

[Jorge Da Silva]

Would you route this via Goole or via Selby?

Via Selby. Probably from Doncaster going to Selby and Hull using HST's and Class 220/221

 

[NoMorePacers]

Via Selby. Probably from Doncaster going to Selby and Hull using HST's and Class 220/221

Very well. I wouldn't object to that service, and as long as it uses Platform 6/7 at Hull then they could run a doubled-up Voyager on that route for once.

 

[Jorge Da Silva]

What about extending the Hull-Manchester Piccadilly service to Manchester Airport?

 

[NoMorePacers]

What about extending the Hull-Manchester Piccadilly service to Manchester Airport?

Strangely enough, when glossing over the 2002-03 ATN North Transpennine timetable, the Hull-Manchester service went to the Airport.

 

[gordonthemoron]

Whitehaven-Leeds via Skipton, Bishop Aukland-Kings Cross

 

[NoMorePacers]

Manchester Piccadilly-London Euston via Manchester Airport

 

[Jorge Da Silva]

Why not extend the Northern Liverpool-Leeds service to Hull, extend the Crewe-Nottingham service to Manchester Airport and introduce an hourly Liverpool to Leicester service

 

[NoMorePacers]

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What did you suggest?

 

[Jorge Da Silva]

What did you suggest?

Should be up again now.

 

[Kite159]

Why not extend the voyagers which terminate at Manchester Piccadilly to Liverpool to allow Liverpool to feel included in the XC network once again.

Also extend the voyagers which terminate at Reading to Brighton because that always gets mentioned in this sort of threads

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On a more serious note, maybe extend the West Midlands 350 which terminates at Crewe after going via Stoke towards Manchester Airport to give the airport a 'direct' London train but also a 2nd train per hour into the airport from the Crewe direction

 

[gazthomas]

Barnstaple to Wick

 

[JonathanH]

Extend to Milton Keynes - East Croydon service to Brighton southwards, (or Gatwick if no paths south of Three Bridges), and Birmingham northwards

No paths south of East Croydon let alone Gatwick.

 

[The Sage]

First post... or first for many years but I’ve long had a weird obsession with the Northern City Line () and reckon a first class only Leeds-Moorgate and Edinburgh-Newcastle-Moorgate service l would be cool, one down for each route in the morning and back up in the evening, aimed at people with meetings in the city, similar to the LCY-JFK flights that ba do.... perhaps they could use 6 car Azumas

 

[muddythefish]

Reinstate the Farrington curves near Preston to allow East Lancs towns (pop 250,000 plus) direct access to Liverpool. BR ran commuter trains from Hellifield to Liverpool up until 1962; for the past 40 years there have been no direct connections at all and the journey by rail is long and tortuous.

 

[JKF]

Leeds - Stansted via Cambridge

 

[mmh]

Is there enough capacity between Birmingham and Milton Keynes Central?? It was originally planned that the service should have been Birmingham-Brighton via WLL but lack of capacity has restricted it to its present day service.

It used to go to Rugby via Northampton, using 319s with a livery with the route along the side, emphasising it being a direct train to Gatwick Airport.

 

[Sad Sprinter]

Send XC terminators at ManPicc across to Leeds and Hull.

St Pancras to Glasgow via Leeds

St Pancras to Manchester Victoria.

Bring back pre-Javelin South Eastern fasts.

 

[Jorge Da Silva]

Send XC terminators at ManPicc across to Leeds and Hull.

St Pancras to Glasgow via Leeds

St Pancras to Manchester Victoria.

Bring back pre-Javelin South Eastern fasts.

Manchester I can see demand for maybe from Piccadilly (Manchester-Leicester and East Midlands Parkway), I can also see demand for a St Pancras to Leeds service for people of Leicester and Derby to Leeds BUT not to Glasgow, the East Coast struggled to compete post WCML upgrade so the MML would be even worse.

 

[Aictos]

London Euston to Inverness by extending the existing 08:03 Birmingham to Inverness as a daily service which gets the average passenger into Inverness for 4pm to rival the existing LNER 12:00 Inverness service.

With a return the following day leaving Inverness at 12:00 to Euston which as a result would not only offer a daily sleeper but also two day services in both directions.

This would be operated using a 9 car Class 390 and dragged using locos between Perth and Inverness.

Or

Blackpool North to Cambridge as a daily service in both directions running Blackpool North - Leeds - Nottingham - Grantham/Lincoln - Peterborough - Ely - Cambridge.

This restores direct links between the above locations and operated as a XC service.

 

[si404]

Why not extend the voyagers which terminate at Manchester Piccadilly to Liverpool to allow Liverpool to feel included in the XC network once again.

I'm sure the good burghers of Liverpool would far prefer service to Bristol and Bournemouth than Norwich and Manchester Airport. Though they might complain about Norwich (less so M**chester Airport). But they'll do that when it ends at Nottingham anyway, so if you do it at the same time...

Changing at Stafford/Wolverhampton is easier and would be quicker, but Liverpool miss those every few hours service to a far flung destination they didn't care about and still don't beyond complaining that they used to be able to get a train there.

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E-W across the Solent coast is good, though Portsmouth-Poole is my shout, rather than Brighton-Bournemouth

Reading-Portsmouth via Guildford (perhaps extending XC - sorry Brighton, I just don't understand why you need all these long distance services people are proposing, when most would be quicker via London. XC is the most nonsense one of the lot) anyone?

 

[CaledonianBlue]

St Pancras to Glasgow via Leeds

i have sometimes wondered if there is any circumstance in which a Glasgow to Leeds via Settle would be competitive timewise versus going via Edinburgh. I mean if timed to fit gaps in east cost services. Or even Glasgow to Bradford. Just as a thought experiment.

 

[Kite159]

i have sometimes wondered if there is any circumstance in which a Glasgow to Leeds via Settle would be competitive timewise versus going via Edinburgh. I mean if timed to fit gaps in east cost services. Or even Glasgow to Bradford. Just as a thought experiment.

If you can connect into the semi-fast Leeds service at Carlisle then it can be competitive compared to say using XC all the way to Leeds.

 

[Flying Claret]

Blackpool North-Uddersfield via east lancs and copy pit. Would provide extra capacity across the pennines and link the Calder valley direct to Udders...

 

[6Gman]

Why not extend the Northern Liverpool-Leeds service to Hull, extend the Crewe-Nottingham service to Manchester Airport and introduce an hourly Liverpool to Leicester service

There is no Crewe - Nottingham service; it's Crewe - Derby.

It used to go to the Airport. It was very, very little used.