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Wensleydale Railway 21 August 2018

I visited the Railway Tuesday 21 August 2018. I'm currently engaged in "heritage" railway visits mid-week to the see the state-of-play through the lens of regular punters. For myself it was a 538 mile round trip at a cost of £94.25 in train and bus fares. The cost of the Railway visit was £15. This was my 19th heritage railway visited in 2018.

First leg of the trip was the 06:19 Horsham to Victoria 07:12 Southern service. Second leg was the Victoria Line to Kings Cross. Third leg was the GCR 08:06 to Northallerton 10:30:

The head-rest “wings” at the top of the GCR seats are a little annoying. There was no visible pantograph on the train, acceleration was sluggish and the front end is a disaster. There was an AC leak in one of the carriages. The TM did ask passengers to sit in their reserved seats and there was little evidence of musical chairs. I used the buffet to purchase Second Breakfast, porridge and coffee. The service was delayed at York arriving Northallerton 11:08 due to a bridge strike. We were kept informed of the delay by the TM.

Fourth and final leg Dales & District 73 11:39 arriving 11:54. [Bus details at end of the report.]

On arrival at Leeming Bar station the “Ticket Office” was found located in a coach in the bay platform. The ticket clerk was very friendly and engaged in conversation readily. After sizing me up he correctly deduced I wasn’t entitled for a concession. I explained I intended to travel to Redmire then back to Leyburn to take on refreshments then back to Redmire and return on the kettle hauled train. He confirmed that was a good plan as “there is not much to do at Redmire” apart from the Bolton Arms. Ticket purchased was a £15 return. Walking through the shop I entered a 4-BIG buffet car which serves as the cafe; yay! I purchased sandwiches etc. plus chilled bottled ale and was given an explanation of the upside-down sheep on the bottle. Again staff very friendly. I heard later that sandwiches at Leyburn sold out quite early so some punters went hungry. Golden rule is to buy food when you see it :)

Looking around the station an unrestored 9F and a Teddybear could be seen. In the distance past the Signal Box an industrial shunter.

Two services were running: (1) two DMU plus Bubble Car. Unfortunately the Bubble Car was locked out-of-use as "there is only one ticket inspector” and somewhere up the line (2) J27 plus rake of MK 1 including a WCRC Harry Potter filming coach. The J27 really looked the part and the Harry Potter coach was very popular.

I traveled on the Leeming Bar 12:45 DMU to Redmire arriving 13:53. One DMU car had authentic vintage GOBLIN route maps so I felt quite at home. The punters consisted mainly of “Tea and Cake” visitors also seen at garden centres etc. There were three other people arriving at Leeming Bar via train and bus thus, as is the norm at heritage railways, most visitors arrived by car. There were a much smaller number of families. I detected one maybe two “enthusiasts”.

As we departed Leeming Bar, a 33, 37, a smart looking coach and some DMU cars were observed. Then under a large road bridge and an AHB level crossing. I counted at least two gated manned crossings which entailed much hooting, whistling and use of crossing flags. There were also numerous occupation crossings and a fair few TSR. The line is often quoted as 22 miles. In fact this is the distance from Northallerton to Redmire. The distance from Leeming Bar to Redmire is 16 miles and 13 chains.

Bedale was a popular station with many alighting/joining. It is located on tight curve for some strange reason. A fair few dogs on boarded and I see they are charged only £1. I was told not to lean out of the window, the first time this year during 21 heritage railway visits, however this was good advise as in many locations the vegetation and train interfaced. I joked later to the Station Master at Leyburn that BIL was having the scratches buffed out at York as we passed by in the morning. We passed the J27 at the Constable Burton loop west of Finghall Lane.

On arrival at Redmire I decided not to visit the Bolton Arms so stayed on the DMU forming the Redmire 14:03 arriving Leyburn 14:21. At Leyburn I took tea and cake from the station cafe. The cake was just about sold out soon after the DMU arrival, the staff saying it was difficult to predict how many people would attend. As mentioned previously, sandwiches there were none to be found. I went in search of the Wensleydale Brewery but couldn’t find it. There is a contemporary water tower at the west end of the platform fed from a large tank, via a pipe under the track, on the north side of the line. The water pressure I was told, which will obviously be reduced by around 5 metres, was such that filling the kettles took too long and a pump may be fitted. A desire to install a vintage column is present although I suggested spending money on the PW to reduce the TSR would in my opinion be a higher priority.

The Station Master was very friendly and engaged in conversation readily. The length of the line and number of occupation crossings was mentioned as being operationally challenging. I was told (unprompted) that two crossing east of Leeming Bar required automated barriers and train detection equipment before any consideration of re-opening to Northallerton West.

The J27 plus happy punters arrived around 15:37 from Leeming Bar, was topped up with water and departed a little late after 15:44. Back to Redmire arriving a little after booked time of 16:04 followed by a quick turn around departing a little after 16:20. The loco disappears off into the distance for the turn-around loop with vegetation and infrastructure getting in the way of photo opportunities and sight of the MOD sidings. At the east end of the station there is a bank behind the platform which allows good viewing.

Just a ten minutes stop at Leyburn, token hand-over at Constable Burton loop. The sun had come out for the return trip and the countryside looked glorious. As we passed one of the manned gated crossings the J27 whistled repeatedly and two children at the gate jumped up and down squealing in delight and waving furiously. The run into Leeming Bar saw the AHB crossing taken at line speed making for an exhilarating finale. Arrival was a few minutes before the booked time of 17:37.

A very impressive stream of passengers alighted Leeming Bar somewhat reminiscent to the scene in the Titfield Thunderbolt arriving at the junction station except bar four of us they all headed to their cars not the bus stop.

Caught the late running 17:40 73 bus to Northallerton followed by the 18:25 TPE to York. I tried to board the 18:09 Northallerton to KGX but the LNER TM wasn’t interested despite the light loading. At York I couldn’t be bothered to try for another early departure so had some food, took some pictures of an 802 in the evening light under the canopy and waited for my Advance 20:04 ex Aberdeen HST. I’d allowed such a large gap after repeated close calls on previous heritage railway trips. I’d love to be able to afford flexible tickets but alas they are rarely cost effective. I travelled in the Quite coach, which I now always book if possible, but found the HST seats hard and not that comfortable.

Right-time arrival KGX 22:08 where I hopped over to St Pancras and caught the 22:20 Brighton alighting at East Croydon. I didn’t alight at Peterborough or Stevenage for connecting services to Horsham as I didn’t want to take advantage of “new journey opportunities” and arrive home 36 or 15 minutes later than by staying on until KGX. 22:53 Southern service from ECR to Chichester arriving HRH 23:27.

I very much enjoyed Wensleydale Railway. The two-train service, long ride and marvellous scenery gave plenty of value, only £15! The Railway staff were very friendly and all engaged in easy conversation. My fellow punters were mainly the usual locally based non-enthusiasts who keep heritage railways running. The trains and buses delivered me to my destination but late running showed the wisdom of not planning tight connections. I recommend Wensleydale Railway and will gladly visit again.


Information

Wensleydale Railway: https://www.wensleydalerail.com/

Dales and District Bus: https://www.procterscoaches.com/dales-district-timetables/

Northallerton Departing
Turn left out of station and cross to other side of road via Pedestrian Crossing.
Stop is outside County Hall.
Dales & District 73 Bus, ticket price £4.55 Return.

Leeming Bar Arriving
Look for Corner House Hotel on right at mini roundabout and Simply Dutch ahead.
After roundabout, press Stop.
Stop is just past Pedestrian Crossing, opposite White Rose Hotel
Walk back to Pedestrian Crossing and cross the road.
Walk towards the mini roundabout.
Take the first exit and the station is just on the left.
Ticket Office is in a railway coach in the platform bay (not in the station building).

Leeming Bar Departing
Walk from station back towards White Rose Hotel.
Bus stop is just past the pub by the pub car-park.
Bus 73 to Northallerton Railway Station.

Northallerton Arriving
After turning off roundabout towards Town Centre, look for Level Crossing
Before railway bridge press Stop.
Stop is just past the Station.
 
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Sounded like a good day trip :)

The Grand Central service would have been a diesel hence no pantograph (after Northallerton it turns right towards Eaglescliffe and leaves the wires behind)
 

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Sounded like a good day trip :)

The Grand Central service would have been a diesel hence no pantograph (after Northallerton it turns right towards Eaglescliffe and leaves the wires behind)
Yes it was thank you! The slack at the start and end of the heritage portion of the trip de-stressed the day entirely. And no sleeping in shopping centres or airports required :)

Bi-modes have been a thing down here on Southern since 1958 so just a bit surprised it’s taking so long to reach elsewhere in the UK...
 

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Yes it was thank you! The slack at the start and end of the heritage portion of the trip de-stressed the day entirely. And no sleeping in shopping centres or airports required :)

Bi-modes have been a thing down here on Southern since 1958 so just a bit surprised it’s taking so long to reach elsewhere in the UK...

802s would probably be a good fit for Grand Central as the bulk of their running is done under the wires, and the parts where the train would require to run on diesel are not that high speed. Although if the ECML can support more units drawing power from the overhead wires is another matter.

Bit of a shame these days they don't run (regularly) to Northallerton West due to those level crossing issues as it is a bit easier to reach
 

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Seems to be the un-written policy that a single thread is used for trip reports so (i) title changed and (ii) further trip reports will be posted here.
 

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Weardale Railway Class 31 Gala 21 April 2018

This trip came about following mention on UKR in February 2018 with the teaser that trains would be running into Bishop Auckland for the first time in a number of years. I do love a rail connected heritage line and a gala dedicated to one class sounded unusual. I assumed the heritage trains would be clogged with people hell bent on a great diesel traction experience. The journey to Weardale and back was 594 miles at a cost of £115. The Gala ticket was £25. This was my 1st heritage railway visit of 2018 and my 1st visit to Weardale.

A quick NR itinerary plan and ticket purchase was done in short order as the event was only a couple of weeks away. I booked VTEC Advance Singles the whole return journey Horsham to Bishop Auckland. Splitting in London, or anywhere else, didn’t appear to save much. Subsequent trips show that splitting is usually cheaper than through tickets but not always. When collecting the tickets only two were printed, one each way, as the seat reservations were on the travel ticket. Goodness only knows why VTEC can manage that and others can’t? I booked my Weardale Railway Gala Day ticket with Bishop Trains to avoid any queues on the day.

Outward Journey

(i) Southern 0555 Horsham to Gatwick. This had a scheduled ten minute wait at Three Bridges so I hopped onto a (ii) Thameslink heading to Gatwick. (iii) 0632 Gatwick Express to Victoria left on time and even my ticket was checked. Yes the ticket and itinerary specified GatEx. On-time arrival at VIC 0732. (iv) 10 minute ride on the Victoria Line and another 10 minutes to get from the platform to Kings Cross concourse. Of course I’d annihilated the cross-London itinerary so had time for Second Breakfast.

(v) My 0800 VTEC train to Edinburgh was re-platformed; from what I could see the original platform contained a cancelled service. On-board my first InterCity in a very, very long time. On-time departure and we got to Peterborough a lot faster than the Horsham-PBO service I’d caught on the first day of the Preview Service not that long ago. First stop York where I promised myself I’d book a future trip. On-Time arrival at Darlo 1022 with a 32 minute wait which gave time to capture some of the architectural glory of the station in pixels and to realise that “This is where where it all began”!

During those 32 minutes I watched an listened to the people around me and felt a real Southerner. A TPE to Manchester was rammed to the gunwales. Trains to other exotic sounding destinations were possible including some impossibly distant sounding places down South. Indeed NRE showed these trains did indeed take almost forever to get to their destinations.

My 1054 Northern service to Bishop Auckland 1120 (vi) arrived and it was a two-coach bus-on-wheels. I didn’t know if all the stories I’d read on UKR were true, seems they are. Anyway it was an absolute delight to ride, clattering and swaying about for the 26 minute journey. And what an historical journey that is! I’d not realised beforehand where Darlington was on the Map and the points along the route to Bishop. Some good stuff to see outside the window whilst squeezing up to make room for armadas of pushchairs. I’m not sure when manufactures stopped making pushchairs collapsible but it does seem a retrograde step. Observed the 1842 North Road Station, Hopetown works and caught a glimpse of the Hitachi Newton Aycliffe plant and some IET 800.

On arrival at Bishop Auckland, Bishop Trains offered Gala tickets for anyone needing them. A short walk to the Weardale platform, Bishop Auckland West, located 200 metres west of the National Rail station. The platform is a loop off the National Rail connection. Waited and waited for the 1150 departure. A couple appeared from the east walking along the track and came up the platform ramp oblivious to their potential early demise under a few hundred tons of train. Some Bishop Trains lads arrived and kept us informed of what was going on; people seemed in good spirits despite the lack of trains. I chatted to a chap down from Edinburgh who was into all kinds of transport. He mentioned the Bluebell Railway and flying down to Gatwick to visit. I was impressed! [When I got home I compared the distance we had both travelled and sheepishly found I'd travelled twice as far... That explained the surprised look he gave me when I said I lived near Gatwick.] Eventually a Class 31 was heard approaching.

The line runs from Bishop Auckland West to Stanhope with a quoted distance of 18 miles. However this is the distance from Bishop Auckland to somewhere called Eastgate-in-Weardale west of Stanhope. The actual distance is 15 miles and 65 chains. Still, that's quite a long journey through the Weardale valley with the line crossing the River Wear a few times. Coaches were not the usual MK 1 but something more up to date - MK 2?, although they had seen better days. Still, that added to the nostalgia. Was looking out the left hand side mainly so missed Wolsingham station and the loco sheds. As the train arrived in Frosterley I heard “pub” and “beer” being mentioned. Wasn’t sure what that was about but saw a few people get on and off.

Arrived in Stanhope to much clicking on cameras and another 31 ready to take over. Dashed to the cafe and purchased lunch. Was called “pet” and thus reminded I was in a different world. The station looked as good as the photos and I was disappointed not to have enough time to explore. Back on train with lunch and left shortly heading back towards BIA. As we approached Frosterley, I established that there was a pub worth visiting so got out. Turned out there was a beer festival at The Black Bull Inn.

The timetable had been thrown out of the window due to the earlier difficulties so I decided to take some time at the Black Bull Inn. I discovered some good local ales inside and visiting ales outside. Greatly surprised to see Dark Star Hophead and APA which are brewed a few miles from where I live and are permanent taps one and two at my local owned (at that time) by Dark Star . No need to drink those and luckily Titanic Plus Porter was available so I was all set. There was a good band playing some good tunes.

After some time I walked back across the road to look at the river and await a train back to Stanhope. I’d realised I only had time left to get to Stanhope then return to Bishop Auckland on the penultimate train of the day. The second set arrived after another pint, the short journey to Stanhope completed and was quickly prepared at for the journey back. The timetable appeared to have been recovered so the connection at Bishop Auckland appeared safe.

I was on the correct side of the train so see the loco depot at Wolsingham. A very interesting number of machines could be seen. At Scotch Isle Loop we waited for the other set to pass. And we waited and waited. I feared the connection at Bishop would be lost and my connection at Darlo too. Eventually we set off again and arrival at Bishop was within 5-10 minutes of my scheduled Northern departure.

Return Journey

(vii) 1726 Bishop Auckland to Darlington 1753. There was a further scare along the route as we waited for the signal into Darlington but arrival was only a few minutes late.

A 25 minute wait for the 1826 Darlington to Kings Cross 2050 (viii). On time arrival at KGX then (ix) Victoria Line to Victoria and (x) 2131 Victoria to Horsham (2226).

This was a great day out, Weardale is a great line going through stunning scenery. A small shame I could only do a few rides but the unexpected beer festival made up for that. Or was the cause of that! I’d definitely visit Weardale again and I enjoyed the diesel gala.

Information
Weardale Railway: https://www.weardale-railway.org.uk

Tickets used:
Horsham to Bishop Auckland Advance Single VTEC £62.00
Bishop Auckland to Horsham Advance Single VTEC £53.00
 
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Glad you've got your priorities right - proof that beer and trains can be mixed! :)
 

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Sounded like a good day on the Weardale line :)
Thanks Kite yes I thought it was. A lot of effort was put into running two services the entire length, quite different from the usual short shuttle,
 

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A couple of good outings.
I've visited both lines a few times and they both provide some nice entertainment.
Thanks for some interesting reading.
 

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Wensleydale Railway 21 August 2018

Nice report. Good to see the steamer in use. I lived in Northallerton for a while so know the Wensleydale Railway well.

given an explanation of the upside-down sheep on the bottle

ah - Riggwelter.

On arrival at Redmire I decided not to visit the Bolton Arms

does a good pint of proper northern men's ale ;) The other real option is a trip to Bolton Castle which is always worth a visit. it is a remarkably complete 14th century rectangular castle and can be seen in the distance from Redmire station.

On-Time arrival at Darlo 1022 with a 32 minute wait which gave my time to capture some of the architectural glory of the station in pixels and to realise that “This is where where it all began”!

and I used to live opposite Darlington station so know it well ;) Glad to see you enjoyed it.

The line runs from Bishop Auckland West to Stanhope with a quoted distance of 18 miles. However this is the distance from Bishop Auckland to somewhere called Eastgate-in-Weardale west of Stanhope.

it is a long time since i went up the Weardale line. I have been right through to the end of the line at Eastgate when the cement works were still open. Sounds like a good day out. I must get back up there at some point,,..........................
 

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Thank you Mr Rich! I have many wishes for both lines including year long steam. I do hope another loaner can be found for Wensleydale. You see plenty of idle engines doted around the country.
 

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Lakeside and Haverthwaite Railway via WCRC operated Lakes Line 26 June 2018

Introduction
I visited the Lakeside and Haverthwaite Railway 26 June 2018. This trip came amount due to the failure of railway privatisation in the UK and specifically the failure of Northern to work for the benefit of the United Kingdom economy. To get to Lakeside I travelled approximately 626 miles taking around 17 hours. Rail and bus fares were £120.60 and the cost of the Lakeside & Haverthwaite Railway and Lake steamer was £16.70. This was my 12th heritage railway visit of 2018.

During June 2018 there was great excitement on UKR when it was revealed that West Coast Railways Company had been asked to provide train services on the Lakes Line branch from Oxenholme following the withdrawal of Northern services as a result of the introduction of the May 2018 Timetable. The service was to be provided by MK 2 stock top-and-tailed with diesel traction. Suddenly, the Oxenholme-Windermere “Lakes Line” branch became the Must See Go To Destination on English railways with people travelling from far and wide to watch and travel on the line. As once not-quoted in a Jane Austen novel, “There is nothing better than a loco hauled service”. Not to be left out, I decided to visit myself.

Planning
Having decided to visit I then had a problem. What exactly would I do when I got to Windermere? A helpful forum member, Roose, suggested a visit to the Lakeside and Haverthwaite Railway and a trip on a lake “steamer”. UKR member BlueFox provided a link to the Lakes Line User Group (LLUG) site where the WCRC Timetable was published. Further advice on bus, boat and train times was provided by UKR member robbeale and oh and by the way, “I’m a skipper on the lake steamer MV Tern so give me a wave as you pass through”. These suggestions seemed perfect ticking many boxes in one trip.

Scanning the NR, bus, boat and L&HR timetables showed that a there-and-back day trip was achievable. There would be little contingency if anything went wrong. A novel planning detail was the ability to browse the daily Menu on offer at the L&HR. I’d not seen this done anywhere else.

It was given that the trip would be expensive; there is the small matter distance and time criticality. I needed to travel a long way as fast as possible. VTWC Advances from Euston to Oxenholme were obtained for £51.50 outward and £38.00 return. Unfortunately the earliest cheap Advance was the 0930 departure from Euston. Alternate earlier departures were just too expensive to stomach. This late departure resulted in a shorter day than on some of my other trips despite it being one of the longest I’ve attempted. The late departure also meant some sub-optimal connections and almost no Plan B options for the return journey home.

Outward journey
A leisurely departure on the (i) Southern 0716 Horsham to Victoria 0812, followed by (ii) the Victoria Line to Euston.

(iii) VTWC 0930 to Preston 1138. Only my third trip on the WCML this year so plenty of interest out of the window. Prior to Preston I was watching my next service and wondering if I should get off before Preston or not. I guessed that my Oxenholme stopping service would be behind the service I was on so stayed on board. Still, it did highlight the dilemma faced when travelling and the need to be aware of what is going on and having contingency plans for unexpected events. Alighted at Preston and a short wait for (iv) 1153 VTWC Preston to Oxenholme 1220. We went through Carnforth at a fair old whack so could really see much of the WCRC stock.

As we arrived Oxenholme the (v) 1240 WCRC service to Windermere 1310 could be seen and a few people milling around it. A Class 57 at each end today. Took some photos then boarded the train. A mix of tourists heading to Windermere and enthusiasts. An announcement was made that our departure would be delayed to allow for a wheelchair passenger arriving on a delayed service from Manchester Airport. I could only hope the Bus connection at Windermere would be held for our late arrival, the boat at Bowness held and the steam train at Lakeside held.

The Lakes Line
During the free (yes!) ten mile journey a few Twitchers were spotted along the route. Some joiners and leavers at Kendal, Burnside and Staveley; mix of locals and tourists. No aircon but opening windows in the vestibules, many of them being put to good use. I chatted with a LLUG volunteer who was noting passenger statistics on their clipboard. The two 57 motored along with little audible effort. Some lost time was made up. As we approached Windermere I asked the volunteer to confirm the location of the bus stop; right outside the front of the station. I jumped off as soon as the train came to a halt and dashed to the front of the station.

Bus
There was no bus but I had arrived in time for the departure to Bowness. A bus arrived but it was going in the other direction. A bit of a wait and then the (vi) 599 forming the 1322 appeared. By this time a queue of people had built up coming off the train. A bus company ticket seller appeared and I surprised them by handing over the £4.40 for a return ticket. The bus was an open-top so of course I had to sit upstairs. We set off down the hill into Bowness. The journey was shorter than I’d expected; a 30 minute walk for those that like to avoid bus travel. As the bus was underway a recorded commentary explained the mystery of why the station is named Windermere despite not being located on the lake. Bowness streets are narrow, congested and a one-way system in place. I looked longingly at the Word of Beatrix Potter that I had no time to visit. A few years ago I’d won the complete set of 23 books in a competition run as part film promotion for “Miss Potter” [2006]. The 599 stops just past Bowness Pier; should have been 1330 but was more like 1335/40.

MV Swan
I located the ticket office and purchased a combined ticket; Bowness Pier to Lakeside and L&HR Return for £16.70, an absolute bargain. (vii) Lake “steamer” MV Swan [1938] arrived shortly and I boarded. Found a shop inside but no beer. The bar was downstairs so I waited patiently for departure at 1350 at which point the bar staff finished their lunch and opened up the bar shutter. How traditionally quaint is that! Purchased something to quench my thirst and went up on deck.

It was a very warm cloudless day. The lake looked stunning. Standing at the prow with a pint in my hand I couldn’t think of a better way to reach a heritage railway. Surpassing even 38TS perhaps?

During the crossing some Malaysian(?) visitors asked me to join them in their photograph. I guess that is a thing for them. There were many visitors from Japan too; they were most enthusiastic about the experience.

Lakeside and Haverthwaite Railway
MV Swan moored (1430) on a pier right next to the railway station. You walk off the boat and onto the platform. The (viii) 1440 Lakeside to Haverthwaite 1458 service was ready in the platform. I was surprised at the number of coaches. This is due to the large tourist trade.

Hunslet NCB 0-6-0ST “Repulse” was the engine for the day. These are large engines and look extremely powerful. Beloved of the footplate crew so they told me. Very reliable and capable. The line is just 3 miles 11 chains from Lakeside to Haverthwaite.

We set off with the first section running alongside Lake Windermere before turning west. A request stop at Newby Bridge and Haverthwaite East Tunnel add some drama to the short but picturesque journey.

All too soon we arrived at Haverthwaite 1458 where Repulse was uncoupled then disappeared into Haverthwaite West Tunnel to access the run-round loop. A volunteer was having difficulty fixing their plant watering hose to a tap so I connected it up for them. The Japanese tourists were taking many photographs of everything then suddenly disappeared in coaches waiting for them.

Whilst riding the line I’d decided to take lunch at Haverthwaite. As I’d already seen their menu online I was able to order easily from a rather good selection. I picked up a bottle of Fairburn ale to toast my successful arrival. I took a table outside in the sun and a freshly made large baguette soon arrived. The Haverthwaite Station Tearoom is the best I have come across so far and highly recommended.

After lunch I went to explore the shed. There are some lovely items hidden away inside. Take a visit to see for yourself! Used the footbridge to access the other side of the line to take more photos. Repulse had arrived back for the 1615 departure. I heard a buzzing sound and looked up. An idiot was flying a drone from the footbridge over the top of the station area. As it was approaching departure time there were a lot of people about. Didn’t bare thinking about the possible consequences of a power failure.

I was now on my return home with (ix) 1615 Haverthwaite to Lakeside 1633. The return journey was as short and pleasant as the outward. A bit of drama at Newby Bridge where a father with two small boys decided he wanted to alight then changed his mind just as the green flag had been waved by the Guard. The alert crew had no issue with dealing with the situation. Very useful having a Guard when calling at stations with no staff.

MV Tern
By the time I’d finished thanking the driver and getting the last photos MV Tern was arriving. There was an orderly queue waiting for the next batch of tourists to be disgorged. Suddenly the unmistakable sound of Fast-jet was heard and two Tiffy came in low over the Lake heading North. I pointed the camera in the general direction and held the shutter down. Amazingly I managed one fair shot.

As I boarded (x) 1650 Lakeside to Bowness 1730 I asked for Skipper Rob and shortly I introduced myself. Rob suggest taking a look around Tern [1891] then join him on the bridge once we were underway. I was given the left-hand seat, nice, then Rob explained the history of Tern. We were soon discussing our travels around the country and places to visit. I mentioned a plan to do a day trip to Glasgow; Rob suggested going to see the PS Maid of the Loch at Balloch. Tea and biscuits were offered and soon arrived from below up the ladder. Bit of a squeeze, it’s a small bridge, but nothing was spilt. With all the chat we were soon arriving at Bowness so it was time to say farewell and best wishes for the Tern's upcoming 127th Birthday. A Tea-to-Go was offered and gratefully accepted then it was off to the bus stop right by the pier.

Bus
The bus was late again but within tolerance and I knew I could walk to the station if needs be. I caught (xi) 1752 Bowness Pier to Windermere 1804. The whole rigmarole of the recorded description of Bowness and Windermere was played out again on the speakers. Late afternoon now so good lighting conditions for some snaps of the village from the top again.

Lakes Line
The (xii) 1830 Windermere to Oxenholme 1900 arrived and yet more Japanese tourists spilled out. They were most intrigued by the Twitchers on the platform and smiled broadly. I boarded the Brake and was offered water from a large crate. This was during the official Heatwave so it was a shame teabags weren’t offered too. Something for next time WCRC.

A number of locals were using the service to intermediate stations. Suitcases, bike and backpacks easily fitted in the large brake section. Again the 57 accelerated up to line speed without much effort. More great views out the window As we approached Oxenholme I fired up the NRE App to check my 1925 Euston. I was horrified to see red across the board and my Pendolino was still in Scotland. Coming into the platform Rob was filming so I gave him a thumbs up.

Delays on WCML
I made my way to the Up platform and studied NRE Live trains and Planner. There was no way my booked train would get me to Euston in time for the last Horsham departure from Victoria. I saw a late running Euston service was scheduled to arrive around 1920. Thinking about UKR forum advice and looked for and found a member of staff. They were a bit rushed, clearly juggling a lots of things - there were a lot of people waiting on the platforms, and tried to succinctly explain my predicament. Well I failed so was asked to make a direct request, “can I board the net train please?” “yes” and off they went to get on doing their many jobs.

The delayed Pendo (xiii) arrived when it was expected to arrive and I settled down in an unclaimed reserved seat for what should have been a relaxing ride. I had my “verbal authority given” statement ready to offer failing that I was fine to pay the fare; not that I knew what the fare was!

Many miles later it appeared that no visit from the TM or anyone else would happen. I think I recall some apology announcements and reasons for the delay given. We glided on down England with the setting evening sun giving spectacular views out of the window. Glorious countryside we have.

Arrived Euston around 2215 which was earlier than my booked service which should have been 2226. Had checked on NRE for a Horsham train and managed (xiv) Euston platform to Victoria platform in about 14 minutes. Caught the (xv) 22:36 Victoria to Horsham 23:32 arriving home 30 minutes ahead of my planned itinerary. A day to remember for sure.

And I made a solemn vow never to use Advances again. A vow I broke a few days later of course.

Summary
I had planned and executed my most audacious heritage one-day trip to date. Lakeside and Haverthwaite is a delightful line with the best food I’ve had to date and offering integrated transport with Lake steamer services. Everyone I met were helpful and friendly. I would definitely visit again.

Information
L&HR: https://www.lakesiderailway.co.uk
L&HR Menu: https://www.lakesiderailway.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/2018-Menu.pdf
L&HR Train/Boat Timetable:
https://www.lakesiderailway.co.uk/timetable/?route=HAV_AMB&full=true&start=AMB_D
Windermere Lake Cruises: https://www.windermere-lakecruises.co.uk
Windermere Lake Cruises Train/Boat Timetable:
https://cdn.windermere-lakecruises.co.uk/uploads/pdf/summer_2018_1_page_web_version.pdf
Bus: https://tiscon-maps-stagecoachbus.s3.amazonaws.com/Timetables/Cumbria/Kendal/599_Sum18.pdf
Lakes Line User Group: http://www.llrug.co.uk
 

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Embsay & Bolton Abbey Steam Railway Tuesday 7th May 2019

I looked at visiting the E&BAR in 2018 after their Queen Victoria carriage was featured in the Great Rail Restorations TV series. However, the Railway was firmly in the “difficult” category due to the lack of a decent bus timetable. With my 2019 Campaign is full swing I looked again and came up with a working plan. In March I found some Kings Cross to Skipton Advance Singles for £18 each way so was good to go.

0604 Horsham to St Pancras 0735 is a slow but steady train. I’d placed a £9 Seatfrog bid Monday evening for the Kings Cross to Leeds leg. This was “beaten” by Gatwick Airport. WiFi was working on the 700 so I waited until 2 minutes before the auction closed (Blackfriars) and placed a £15 bid. At Farringdon the App gave me my new First Class seat number; success. A couple of minutes late into St Pancras.

Made my way onto the platform head at Kings Cross and a couple of minutes later was able to board the 0803 to Leeds. This was my third trip on this service so far this year (K&WVR in February & S&C in April). A new menu and James Martin has been dropped! Chose the avocado on muffin with a properly cooked poached egg. On earlier trips this year with LNER the chefs had used a poacher. Quite tasty. Also, toast was served this time having been omitted on the previous Leeds trips. On time arrival 1017 at Leeds I think.

Bit of a wait for the 1049 to Skipton; which is the Carlisle train I caught a few weeks ago. I saw there was an earlier train to Skipton but my reservations coupon said 1049 only. I didn’t think to ask the Northern Guard. Uneventful journey - nothing to be seen at Keighley - arriving Skipton 1125.

Arriving at Skipton at 1125 means there is no bus available to get to Embsay for their 1200 departure. I’d looked at Uber and it seems this is available in Skipton. However I just got straight into a licensed taxi in front of the station and 10 minutes later was getting out at Embsay, £5.70.

Stepping out at Embsay I had a strange feeling of good vibes about the place. The previous week I’d visited Peak Rail at Matlock and Brecon Mountain Railway at Pant. Both trips had left me a little jaded about steam railways. Bought my ticket, £12 unlimited travel, then noticed there was a First Class upgrade for £2, again unlimited travel. First Class was a L&YR Directors Saloon so bargain! Note: Contactless supported in the ticket office, shop and cafe - well done!

A nice green GWR tank engine - Collett 0-6-2T 5643 - was sitting at the head of the train and a young school party had just arrived. It was delightful so see so many happy faces so the vibes got better. Took some pictures with the 50mm (full frame) before swapping to the 21mm which I’d decided to use for the day. Bit of a nightmare the 21mm as I’m still getting used to it. The camera has composition frame-lines up to 28mm so composing is done by guess work or live-view. Metering with such a wide field of view in daylight can be hit and miss and to be honest I should have gone full manual. Instead compensating by pointing the camera down and holding exposure on the shutter.

We set off at 1200 towards Bolton Abbey with one other passenger and their dog in the L&YR saloon watching the GWR tank out of the front window. There was a nice halt where there were no extra passengers to pick up. All too soon we had completed the journey (1220) much to my disappointment. Some quite nice scenery had passed by the windows.

I checked with the Guard the route to Bolton Priory, there has never been an Abbey at Bolton, and he gave me a map and instructions. “Mind the sheep crawl (under the A59)” he said. “Do you have to stoop?” said I, “no, but it may be muddy”.

It was a pleasant 30 minute walk to the Priory via footpaths, sheep “crawl” and pavements in dry weather. The “crawl” was in fact a decent sized bridge for a stream and footpath and the “mud” wasn’t mud. I could smell sheep for the rest of the day and as I write this the next day my boots have yet to be cleansed of sheep.

The Priory and river were magnificent. The sun came out for an hour and I got some great pictures. I tried some silk water shots but there was too much light and I don’t have an ND filter (yet). I didn’t see anyone fall off the stepping stones and there is no way I’d try them myself.

Uneventful walk back to the station via the same route. I’d planned to spend much longer at the Priory but changed that plan instead to have a few more trips up and down the line. The Priory and Tea Rooms were all a bit too quaint for me that day.

Back at Bolton Abbey I purchased lunch. Pretty good cafe actually and I admit to having a double-scoop ice-cream. Took some pictures of scrap, 2x31 1x47, at the North end of the station. Spoke to some people who were not travelling who did not visit the Priory as they thought £10 for parking there was a rip-off. I mentioned the Priory was free for walkers and was well worth a visit.

Back to Embsay on the 1540 arriving 1610 and more photos of scrap just outside ‘Abbey and Embsay and in fact half way between as well. As well as the lines of scrap a 37 was briefly spotted. This didn’t look like scrap. No sign of Queen Vic or her carriage.

A short rain shower ensued. Had a chat with the guard about the services which include Queen Victoria’s saloon then back up the line again on the 1630 arriving 1645. This time sampling the MK I carriage. Looked like new upholstery and was very comfortable. “Warning: Do not let your children stand on seats or tables” signs strategically located.

Lost track of time at ‘Abbey nosing around so the Guard asked me if I was travelling back or not. Not wanting to be stranded I quickly boarded the L&YR saloon for the final 1700 journey of the day arriving 1730.

I had no time to watch the shunting at Embsay unfortunately so set off for the walk back to Skipton. I guess I could have booked a return taxi but my schedule allowed for the walk. I’d checked the route on Google Street View and indeed there is a pavement the whole route. It’s mainly downhill apart from one short, sharp steep uphill bit. Time for a few photos in Skipton of the Castle entrance, the Church, War Memorial, Leeds Liverpool Canal wharves and assorted Industrial Heritage.

Skipton 1817 to Leeds 1859 arriving a couple of minutes late. My Advance specified the 18:17 but the Guard said it would be fine to travel. During the journey I had bid and “won” a First Class upgrade on Seatfrog for again £15. The view outside the window was as interesting as it always is along that stretch of line.

Back to Coach K for the Leeds 1916 to Kings Cross 2131. Summer Chicken Casserole served which was very tasty. Various other bits and pieces offered in abundance plus of course something alcoholic. In fact great service by the crew.

Coach K arrives by the lift up to the walkway so across to St Pancras and onto the stopping 2135(?) to Brighton. Change at East Croydon for a faster Brighton then change again at Gatwick for the Chichester and Bognor. Arriving Horsham 2257.

A good steam railway well worth the effort albeit a little short. The L&YR Directors saloon is a gem and a bargain. I’d like to ride the LNER Autocar and Queen Victoria saloon later. The Priory allows a combined trip. Or just head back to Leeds for some proper time in Northern Monk’s excellent Taproom. Just have to remember to Split at Leeds next time though!

Links:
https://www.embsayboltonabbeyrailway.org.uk
https://www.channel4.com/programmes/great-rail-restorations-with-peter-snow/on-demand/65794-004
https://bustimes.org/services/14-skipton-embsay-circular

Tickets:
Horsham to Gatwick Airport Anytime Day Return £9.10
Gatwick Airport to St Pancras Anytime Return £21.10
Kings Cross to Skipton Advance £18.00 + Seatfrog £15
Taxi £5.60
Embsay & Bolton Abbey Railway unlimited travel £12 + £2 First Class unlimited travel
Bolton Abbey - Free for pedestrians
Skipton to Kings Cross Advance £18.00 + Seatfrog £15


Bolton Abbey to Bolton Priory - 35 minute walk
Come out of the station and head towards to A59.
Before the A59 turn Right.
When the road ends, continue along the track.
Keep going along the track which takes you Under the A59.
Turn left to re-join the footpath (which crosses the A59!).
The footpath turns into a lane.
Continue to the end of the lane and turn Left (opposite the posh restaurant).
Continue past the Priory Car Park on the Left.
On the right-hand side of the road there is a pedestrian entrance through a stone wall.
Alternatively keep straight on as there is an interesting stone wall across the road.
Past some Priory related buildings until the pedestrian entrance on the Right.

Embsay to Skipton - 45 minute walk
Come out of the station and head up to the main road.
At the main road, turn Left.
After the Cavendish Arms there is a Bus Stop, Brackenly Lane.
The last 14 Bus is at 16:30 to Skipton Bus Station.
Continue along Skipton Road.
Under the Railway Bridge then Under the A59.
At the T-Junction, turn Right.
Keep going, there is a raised footpath on the right-hand side, until the War Memorial Roundabout in Skipton by Pizza Express.
Continue Left down the High Street.
At the Mini-Roundabout, turn Right.
Soon after turn Right again.
Keep going, over the Leeds-Liverpool Canal, past Morrisons until the Station is on the Left.

Edited to add that Contactless payment is accepted on the E&BAR.
 
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A good day out in the Yorkshire Dales! There is an alternative walking route back to Skipton through the woods, but an OS Map is needed to make sure you go the right way.
 

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A good day out in the Yorkshire Dales! There is an alternative walking route back to Skipton through the woods, but an OS Map is needed to make sure you go the right way.
I'll be sure to avoid that then ;)
 

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Thank you. Again! Just loaded iPhone and camera images to the computer. Lean pickings from the Railway I'm afraid. Some nice Priory images though. I've been in the garden replicating the exposure "issues" with the 21mm lens. More investigation required. Meanwhile here is an image from the iPhone which I like:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/144247372@N07/33928131908/in/datetaken-public/
It would never have occurred to me to take a shot like that. Very good composition.
 

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It would never have occurred to me to take a shot like that. Very good composition.
Why thank you! Distressed timber always a good bet for an image and an easy to do. Timber and rusty iron at the seaside are a great combination. Anyway, I've relented and uploaded a Kettle picture to Flickr.
 

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Peak Rail Tuesday 30th April 2019

Was rudely woken by the iPhone alarm at 0415. Not for the first time I queried what had possessed me to book an 0648 departure from St Pancras. Another long day in my quest to have a Railway Adventure had begun.

In 2018 I visited the Eccelsbourne Valley Railway during their Multiple Memories Railcar Gala weekend 19th May (an amazing day with great memories). I had time to take the train up to Matlock, primarily to photograph Cromford, and saw the last Peak Rail train of the day departing for Rowsley South. I knew I had to return and ride Peak Rail.

Arrived at Horsham station to catch the 0515 Southern service to Victoria. An announcement was made that a possible rail fault was being investigated outside the station. So we sat at the platform going nowhere. The 0525 Peterborough also going no where.

I bailed from the train and went to the taxi rank at the front of the station. No taxis. A couple more people arrived and a cabin crew (Norwegian?) guy rang for a taxi to Gatwick. Decided that the trains would probably start soon enough so returned to the platform.

Chatted with the Southern OBS and just then the starter indicator changed to UE (or something similar) so we both jumped on board. Set off a couple of minutes later and looked at options. I recall we skip-stopped a bit so made up some time to East Croydon. A Northbound Thameslink left a few seconds after our arrival. The next Northbound Thameslink was in fact the Horsham-Peterborough service which had skip-stopped most of its calls.

As we approached St Pancras I saw a glimmer of hope of catching my 0648 Nottingham. Arriving at the top of the St Pancras Thameslink I was reminded that the route to the Midland platforms adds a further few minute thus missed my Nottingham train. My ticket was quickly endorsed for the 0735 Nottingham and I retired to Pret to wait.

Uneventful journey on the 0735 arriving Beeston 0915. I was initially a bit confused about which platform to be on as I had wrongly assumed assumed I’d be heading North. A short wait for the 0925 to Matlock during which time I looked at a map to discover why I was seemingly doubling back on myself. All became clear.

At Ambergate the Adventure truly begins. I watched the driver retrieve the Token for Matlock from the box on the platform then we set off along one of my favourite English lines. The scenery is stunning and there are some gorgeous stations.

Arrival at Matlock 1026 and I had a choice to make. I was one hour late and thus my plan to catch a TP3 bus (I had PlusBus on my rail ticket) to Northwood Lane, for Rowsley South, looked to be pushing it. I therefore decided to just wait for the Peak Rail train at Matlock.

I located the Peak Rail shop at Matlock and just as I was about to ask for a day ticket I saw the sign that said tickets are purchased on the train. I asked how to get to the platform as it wasn’t immediately obvious: Take the footbridge over the railway, walk towards Sainsbury’s then turn right and down onto the platform.

As I had another wait I decided to head into Matlock for refreshments. Couldn’t help noticing a bus outside the station going to Chatsworth House. Was almost tempted to catch that and come back to Peak Rail another day. I’d been looking on Google and found a cafe, JJ’s, just on the other side of the bridge over the Derwent. Found the establishment, placed an order and sat outside in the sun. Was time for some quick photography of the bridge and Derwent then back to the station and the Peak Rail platform. Amazing how many tourist railways end up being located to supermarkets!

Located myself at the end of the platform to wait for the train. Whilst waiting a friend asked via WhatsApp if I wanted to go to Brighton for the day so I replied with a picture of the large Matlock station sign. I sent a quick photo to my daughter too in Bangkok mentioning the bus to Chatsworth. Soon a NCB Saddle Tank No. 72 appeared with a rake of marroon couches. Beautiful “Peak” D8 was on the rear.

Walked to the now back of the train for photos then asked the staff if the interesting looking LMS coach would be unlocked to travel in. Apparently not. Walked back to front of the train, found a seat and hoped for a loud departure. We set off at a very sedate pace and passed the now defunct platform West of Matlock. The ticket seller came round and I purchased my ticket, valid for as many trips that day as you want. The train was very lightly loaded being mid-week and not a school holiday.

The speed never increased; we meandered through a rural landscape. Despite the good weather there was not much of note. The scenery between Ambergate and Matlock is tremendous - the scenery between Matlock and Rowsley South isn’t.

We stopped at a very large station, Darley Dale. Despite its size there didn’t seem to be a lot going on and no body left or joined the train. A lady with a Teddy Bear walked along the platform in the forlorn hope that at least one child was on board.

We set off again and all too soon were arriving in Rowsley South. Now I knew we were arriving in Rowsley South because (i) there were rows and rows of scrap and (ii) a truly massive shed and yard area with a few interesting looking specimens in the distance. What really caught my eye though was 2-HAP 4311 in NSE livery complete with Kent crest.

Arrival time was early and I recalled the scene in the Titfield Thunderbolt where the Inspector comes to assess the line and warns them to keep the speed down to comply with the Light Railway Order. I fear if we had travelled at 25 mph the journey would have been very short indeed.

I exited the train and chatted to the staff. It was noted that the diesels on view were u/s and waiting for their turn in the workshop. There were interesting diesels inside the sheds owned by a certain well-known person and that I could wander over there if I so wished. I was tempted but not getting good vibes that day (must have been missing the Nottingham train) and a desire to visit the Heights’ I wandered back to the historic coach.

The historic coach had been opened up for viewing with a donation bucket set up. Seems it’s owned by the NRM. A fitter was on board attending to a door. He showed me around; great carriage but a shame it was not in service. Obviously by now all kinds of thoughts were flying through my head, especially when he opened the toilet door to demonstrate the fold-away sink. The fitter noted a smell of gas to the guard but I thought it was just the usual RMB smell indicating the need to scrap the adjacent coach or at least rip out the entire kitchen. I beat a hasty retreat to further down the train and the short journey back to Matlock.

Chatted to the Guard and said how great it was to have the best of both worlds; steam on one end and diesel on the other. The Guard noted the reason being lack of run-round loop at Matlock. The penny dropped and the disused Peak Rail station outside Matlock with run-round loop made sense.

Sometimes mid-week railway trips just don’t work out as planned. A trip to the Nene Valley Railway in 2018 on their weekly Swedish Railcar day was another one of those occasions. No regrets required and another visit on another day - I really want to do the Shunter Bashers Ball - and it will be a different experience. I exited the station at Matlock, we’d stopped en route at Darley Dale and you could envisage tumbleweed rolling down the platforms being a distinct possibility, and headed off the the Heights’.

A word about the Timetable: The train from Rowsley South arrives at Matlock and the train from Matlock to Ambergate and beyond leaves one minute later. I don’t think you could run from one platform to the other in sixty seconds. But of course most people travelling on Tourist railways don’t use Public Transport so where is the problem?

The bus times from Matlock to ‘Bath did not mesh either so I set off on foot. This is great in good weather and there are a few photo opportunities along the way. I crossed the Derwent to explore but the path soon petered out. Shame there isn’t a footpath on the North side of the river as the road is quite noisy. The arrival at the cable-car is preceded by seeing it in the distance. The last section up to the ticket office is very steep indeed! So excited by the upcoming ride I forgot to show my rail ticket and get the discount offered.

Had a good time at The Heights of Abraham, two lead mines!, but that story probably doesn’t belong on this forum. Needles to say I think a combined trip with Peak Rail is a lovely way to enjoy the area. I left at close of play and made my way slowly down the footpath to the bottom end of ‘Bath finding lots of photogenic scenes. There are a series of footpaths leading down to the main road once you exit the Heights’ estate.

Walked back towards the station noting ten, TEN, fish-n-chip shops at least. Noted also that Matlock is Biker friendly although only a few machines present that day. A beautiful iron bridge - unsurprisingly and with no imagination named Jubilee Bridge - crossing the Derwent and at the War Memorial some interesting information panels about Matlock inhabitants involvement in the Great War. Had some time to spare so could have checked out The Midland pub but decided not to. I watched the service to Matlock arrive and depart and awaiting its return. Some people arrived looking for toilets so I directed them to The Midland, noting they’d need to buy something according to the typical sign you see on doors in popular tourist spots. [There are toilets at the War Memorial but I wasn’t sure if they were open.]

Caught the 1739 Matlock Bath to Derby. Seemed to be some pay when challenged and don’t want to pay exchanges. I have great admiration for Guards who have to do ticket sales. Another trip down the glorious valley alongside the Derwent. I’ll never tire of Cromford station and its association with Oasis.

Arrival Derby 1810 and a long wait for my 1935 Advance. I bemoaned the No Break of Journey Restriction although actually I had broken my journey as I’d purchased a Matlock to Derby ticket on top of my through Advance. Anyway, I purchased some food which I ate in the sunshine at the North end of the platform and watched a few services come and go. Including that Yellow Banana Digital Railway consist with Jonty Jarvis on the front heading South.

After watching at least two St Pancras services departing I finally boarded my train arriving St Pancras 2121 (actually I think it arrived 8 minutes early). I don’t recall any incidents, the train was only lightly loaded and the evening sun made for a pleasant journey.

Caught the 2115 Thameslink to Brighton (Midland platforms to Thameslink platforms can be done very quickly outside the Rush Hour!), changing at East Croydon then changing again at Three Bridges. Arrival Horsham 2228 some 30 minutes earlier than my schedule and 40 minutes earlier than the EMT Itinerary. Arrival home around 2236; a long but enjoyable day.

Would I visit again? Yes, I want to do the Shunter thing and would like to see some Gala action if they ever have enough motive power etc.

Postscript: I submitted Delay Repay to GTR for the one hour delayed arrival at Matlock. I received the full £24.50 ticket price in compensation.


Tickets
Horsham to Matlock Advance Single £24.50 with Plusbus Matlock £6.00 [booked with EMT in February]
Peak Rail All Day Unlimited £9.50
Matlock to Derby Single £6.50
Heights of Abraham £18 [less 20% on production of rail ticket]
Matlock to Horsham Advance Single £24.50

Bus Matlock-Rowsley South
Come out of the railway station and enter the bus station.
Locate stand for TP3.
Bus will be heading towards Buxton.

Look on left for large Arconic factory.
Look for factory bus stop.
After factory bus stop, press STOP for the next stop.

Exit bus at Northwood Lane stop.
Walk on a short while then turn left into Derwent Lane.
Through the gate and turn left onto Harrison Way.


Bus Rowsley South-Matlock
Retrace route to Northwood Lane.
Bus stop is on the other side of the road ;)

At Bakewell Road M+S, exit bus.
Walk in direction of bus towards Derby.
At Roundabout, turn Right.
Cross the River Derwent.
Cross the A6/Derwent Way using the Pedestrian Crossing.
Footpath to station is clearly marked with a large sign.
 
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Welsh Highland Railway Super-Power weekend 14-16 September 2018

The 2018 Welsh Highland Railway Super-Power event celebrated 21 years since the opening of the “new” Welsh Highland Railway in 1997. This short trip-report has been written somewhat retrospectively!

I have a vague recollection of visiting what is now known as the Welsh Highland Heritage Railway* in the early ‘80s. I’d attempted planning a day or one night trip by rail to travel the full Caernarfon to Porthmadog route without success. I’d purchased the Accucraft 16mm scale Tasmanian Garrett in March 2018 and was keen to see the real thing and ride behind. The Super-Power event galvanised me into planning an 8 day trip by car visiting five Welsh narrow-gauge lines. I didn’t realise the K1 boiler certificate expired in 2014 so was in for a disappointment. It was also announced that L&B Lyn would be present, newly completed (I have the Accucraft Lyn in 16mm scale too).

The first problem I came across was that whilst the F&WHR were promoting the event, and later selling tickets, virtually no information about the event other than date and ticket price was available. It was my good fortune to be assisted by members of RUK to describe previous events and the expectations for the 2018 event.

When planning the trip, and because of the paucity of information from the F&WHR, I came across a multitude of groups and websites. Here are the ones I’ve found below. You can look at these and make up your own mind as to what is going on in Snowdonia. I’ve made my own interpretation which may contain inaccuracies!

Ffestiniog & Welsh Highland Railways - Brand used by the Ffestiniog Railway Company
Ffestiniog Railway Company - The PLC operating the narrow-gauge tourist lines from Blaenau Ffestiniog to Porthmadog and Caernarfon to Porthmadog
Ffestiniog & Welsh Highland Railway Trust - Charity owning the controlling shares of the Ffestiniog Railway Company
Festpedia - Wiki of the FR Heritage Group
Welsh Highland Railway - Independent News site - very useful!
Welsh Highland Railway Construction Limited -Wholly owned subsidiary of the Festiniog Railway Company created specifically to build a new 600mm gauge railway between Rhyd Ddu and Porthmadog mainly on the existing formation of the former Welsh Highland Railway.
Welsh Highland Railway Heritage Group - Documents the heritage of the WHR.
Welsh Highland Railway Society - The volunteers group that supports the Ffestiniog Railway Company providing volunteer labour etc.
Welsh Highland Heritage Railway - Breakaway group (?) running a short stretch of line at Porthmadog and frequently in dispute with the F&WHR over what a heritage railway should be…

Without access to a timetable, I booked accommodation in Beddgelert. I partly chose Beddgelert as I have a 16mm scale Roundhouse “Beddgelert” 0-6-4. Helpful RUK member advised that the timetable centres around Dinas. I wasn’t keen to drive each day to Dinas so found different accommodation near to Dinas at Llanwnda.

My tickets arrived dated 2017! A new set of tickets were despatched. I was disappointed see that the Ffestiniog Railway route was not covered by the 3-day ticket. I’d also asked some simple questions about the event but the Railway chose to ignore these.

Thursday 13th September
I arrived at my accommodation at Llanwnda after riding the Bala Lake Railway and Ffestiniog Railway. I’d parked outside Porthmadog Railway station at lunch time and collected my “Welcome Pack”. Basically a small brochure and ticket for the Narrow-minded Natter social event Friday evening. The barman at Llanwnda told me there was a footpath to Dinas. This footpath is on the L&NWR alignment and I used it on the 14th & 15th.

Friday 14th September
I set off on foot early arriving Dinas some time before the first train. In fact I was the first visitor to arrive. It started to rain but the Waiting Room, the original station building, had been commandeered for the event. Eventually the tent structure in front of the Goods Shed opened to visitors and I was able to get out of the drizzle. To be fair the small brochure did state opening time 1100-1700. The food and drink on offer wasn’t great but was welcome anyway. Whilst waiting for the first train I met a chap who’d walked along the L&NWR footpath from Caernarfon.

I rode the trains all day. Each day I juggled the twin desires of riding the entire route and riding the heritage trains. Service trains running end-to-end as normal during the weekend with heritage trains interwoven in the timetable running for just part of the route.

In the evening I presented myself in Dinas for the social event. I’d assumed the Narrow-minded Natter would be a large (100) gathering of volunteers and enthusiasts who all knew each other and much ale would be consumed. In the event I struggled to count more than 10-15 people. The presentation on the Nantile Railway was highly professional but it’s quite an obscure subject and there appeared to be little source material to drawn on. I was reminded of Michael Wood’s In search of Shakespeare book. I made my way back from Dinas to Llanwnda in pitch black along the L&NWR formation regretting not bringing a torch with me.

Saturday 15th
I walked up to Dinas again, this time arriving a little before the first train. There were some pretty awesome loco combinations including 2x Garratt and 2x Double-Fairlie. Some of the Garratt hauled trains included a water bowser which made for a pretty impressive sight.

I took a ride down to Porthmadog and went in search of the best Petzl head torch available. Despite Google Maps identifying a number of outdoor outlets, I couldn’t find a single one. Quite a few shops were empty and the place has a feeling of decline about it. Maybe that was just the poor weather. So I went into a largish Tesco and found a very cheap small aluminium Made in Chine LED torch. This now belongs in my travel bag. [I did get a head-torch when I returned home, going for a Black Diamond.] Consumed a couple of rather goods pints in Spooners. Had to look up the significance of the name. It seems the resemblance to a similar sounding chain of pubs is purely coincidental. Ran into the perennial lone traveller problem of a couple nicking my table outside whilst I was at the bar. Despite leaving my coat on the chair! Anyway we had a pleasant chat about the weather and perhaps the railway.

There was no consistent approach to riding the observation car on the service trains. Some guards waived the supplement others charged the supplement. Given the price of the 3-day ticket it would have been a good gesture to include the observation car. Especially as very few enthusiasts rode the service trains.

I’d been told there would be a lot to see at Dinas. I personally didn’t see anything that interested me. In the large tent there were a number of incomplete large scale models. I looked on baffled as to why they were there. I think there was a a ride-on miniature railway but I’d come for the real thing. The shed at the south end of Dinas contain the K1. All other sheds were strictly off-limits.

Traveled down to Waunfawr on a heritage train and visited the Snowdonia Parc pub by the station. Was almost ok and the hot food was most welcome. Good view of the station!

Sunday 16th
Looking at the timetable I’d decided I wanted to ride the last Super-Power train of the event. This meant either walking all the way back from Caernarfon to Llanwnda or driving up there. I decided to drive and arrived in in plenty of time. The car-park attendants were surprised to see someone that early and directed me to park at the far south end of the car-park near the new station in a Disabled bay. Not sure why, Land Rover 110s are not known for being accessible vehicles!

I had a good look at the new station and wondered at the brave decision to make an architectural statement. Anyway, the building ticks a few boxes for me but I hope in the small space the essentials of toilets and food can be provided. I did try and ascertain if a museum was planned but it’s a very small cramped site.

Dinas was transformed on the Sunday. There were clear signs of things happening. I rode a few metres in a restored 4-wheel carriage. But wondered how many days a year it would be used. There was Driver for a Fiver with a twist: no Fiver was required! I was astonished, I rode the footplate on the Bala Lake Railway, very similar historic quarry engine, for £30. At Dinas I got to drive an engine for free! Just up to the yard and back but a very memorable experience.

In the afternoon I took another trip through the mountains. On the return journey we ground to a halt at Rhyd Ddu station. Eventually we were told the driver had been taken ill and a relief driver was coming (by car). Suddenly, two overall wearing chaps were striding purposely through the crowds on the platform. One was carrying a toolbox identical to the one I made when an apprentice many years ago. A driver and fireman were riding our train and had volunteered to take over. I wasn’t bothered by the delay and found the experience rather exciting.

So I arrived back in Caernarfon on the last train of the day. After the running round the train headed back to Dinas ESC. It was an emotional experience watching the departure after three full days of Welsh Highland steam.


Conclusions:
- The F&WHR is a very professional tourist railway operation.
- As with the majority of heritage/tourist railways, steam enthusiasts represent the minority of visitors.
- The WHR didn’t appear to operate a museum nor provide any on-the-ground explanation of the railways history.
- There are a regular heritage themed events every year which attract steam enthusiasts. Although I notice that there is no Super-Power weekend in 2019.
- F&WHR seem to have successfully transitioned from Preservation to Heritage to Tourist line operation.
- Very little advance information was provided by the Railway for the event making planning difficult and stressful.
- Would I visit again?
The lack of a Super-Power event makes that less likely, although the remaining heritage events look good on paper.
I’d still like to attempt a visit by rail, especially the FR.
I would look for cheaper accommodation.

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Ffestiniog Round Robin 30 July 2019

Back in 2018 I’d ridden the Ffestiniog (FR) during a 7 day Welsh narrow gauge holiday. The holiday was by car so I needed to visit again by rail to do things properly. I’d previously looked at a rail trip but at that time it seemed a bit difficult. In July 2019 a thread popped up in RailUK Forums about a Ffestiniog Round Robin ticket. The ticket gives a circular route around Snowdonia including one journey on the FR. This looked like an interesting trip so I set to planning.

Using the Round Robin Map I decided to start my loop at Crewe and travel anti-clockwise: Crewe, Chester, Llandudno Junction, Blaenau Ffestiniog, Porthmadog, Machynlleth and Shrewsbury. So not an entire loop as there were no enough hours in the day to achieve that. Using the NRE journey planner and the FR timetable it seemed that the journey was possible to complete in one day, starting and finishing in Horsham.

I wanted to do the trip in Summer so tickets weren’t cheap. I started with a Euston to Crewe Advance Single and three Advance Singles from Trainsplit; Shrewsbury to Birmingham New Street, Birmingham New Street to London Zones 1-2 and Victoria to Horsham. Taking the brfares information provided by a forum member I went to the Horsham Ticket Office and was able to purchase the Round Robin with an Origin of Shrewsbury; actually the end point of my loop. Probably should have asked for Crewe, but I couldn’t see how the origin mattered. The booking clerk was amazed by the ticket. Nearer the trip I purchased the usual splits from Horsham to Victoria.

A few days before the trip I checked times to ensure nothing had been cancelled or re-scheduled. I noticed at that point the journey from Crewe to Chester could only be done using Virgin at that time of day. The Round Robin ticket is only valid for TfW trains so to play safe I purchased a Crewe to Chester Anytime Day Single. I also noticed there was a Euston to Chester service leaving three minutes after the service I’d booked on to Crewe. I chalked up those errors to a learning experience.

The day before the trip I was really excited to be travelling again. My last trip was back in June to the Tiny Rebel Brewery in Newport. Before that in early June the Windsor Steam train with Mayflower which, to be honest, wasn’t a great trip for me. I registered Seatfrog auctions for the Euston to Crewe and Birmingham New Street to Euston journeys. I didn’t place any Reserve bids and I didn’t think I’d bother with the outward journey.

Tuesday July 30th and an 04:15 alarm. I’d woken ten minutes before as a very large artic was slowly driving down the road being careful not to hit any cars. My road is the diversion for high lorries needing to avoid a railway bridge.

First train of the day the 05:15 Horsham to Victoria. This was on-time arrival at Victoria 06:12. A short journey on the Underground to Euston on the Victoria line.

Arriving on the concourse at Euston at about 06:30 the Seatfrog app informed me there were 7 left on the auction for Euston to Crewe. I decided to bid so waited until T-1:54 then bid a maximum of £19. I “won” an upgrade for £18. Went upstairs and waited for 1st class lounge to open at 06:45. A quick wash and some apple juice then time to head down to platform 13.

07:07 to Lime Street, Pendolino, departed on time. 1st was busy, Seatfrog had allocated J20 which was a single seat forward facing and window. Coffee and juice were served soon after departure. Breakfast orders were taken north of Boerhamwood I think. It was a sunny morning although thunderstorms forecast for Porthmadog. Toast, a good Potato Hash with egg and a lot of coffee was consumed.

I checked the 07:10 Chester train I would be swapping over to at Crewe had departed on-time which it had. We arrived at Crewe 08:42 1L, located Platform 11 where the Chester train was due at 08:47. I’d studied the station map the day before so as not to get lost; some stations can have very confusing (to me) platform numbering. This connection was important, miss it and the Round Robin would not have been possible. A Voyager 5-car unit arrived which I boarded. Just a short trip to Chester arriving on-time at 09:08.

At Chester I looked for Platform 3B. I’d forgotten to look at the station map but there was plenty of time. People started congregating at platform 3B so I joined them so as to get a good seat. A small 2/3-car (could have been 2+2?) DMU arrived and I found a seat. Departure towards Llandudno Junction at 09:23 with on-time arrival 10:15. There were rigorous ticket checks on board by both the Guard and an RPI team! A very pleasant journey with great views of the sea along the North Wales coast.

At Llandudno Junction I again had to locate the platform as I’d not researched the layout. A very small 2-car DMU set off for Blaenau 2L at 10:30. Shortly after Conway Castle was seen in the distance across the water; a splendid sight! The train headed into the mountains and great views outside the windows. There were a lot of TfW trainee Guards on board. At Betws-y-coed, a platform cafe, two carriages and miniature railway - two gauges - and a lot of people identified the place as a very popular destination.

We continued trundling along and started to loose time rapidly. The connection with the FR at Blaenau was looking doubtful. I wondered if the FR would wait? There was a Request Stop but we didn’t stop. Roman Bridge, another Request Stop, again we didn’t stop. The ride started to feel like a downhill run into Blaenau now. Then there was a really, really long tunnel which seemed to go on for ever. But of course the train was travelling so slowly it may not be too long at all.

Soon we were approaching Blaenau - with it’s strange alien like landscape - and I saw we were now slightly ahead of schedule. Thank goodness! A Double Fairlie off the train was being watered so it didn’t look like any issue with making the connection. Arrival at Blaenau was 11:27 3E. I hurried across the footbridge whilst others used the barrow crossing and entered another world.

At the bottom of the footbridge I surveyed the scene. Departure didn’t seem imminent, people strolling around. I was standing at the back of the train; the rear carriage an open four-wheel coach looked tempting. However the penultimate coach was a 4-wheel authentic compartment. There was a single 1st class compartment in the middle so I tried the door; locked. I followed others heading to the ticket office. I showed my Round Robin ticket and asked for a 1st upgrade. The ticket clerk asked if I wanted to travel in the 1st Observation coach at the head of the train. I said no, the 1st compartment at the rear. I was told to find the guard to see if the coach was available for use. Got back to the 4-wheel compartment coach and the Guard from the service arrived from Porthmadog said I could use the compartment, for free. Result! She asked me where I was getting off so I said that depended on when we left Blaenau and when we were likely to arrive in Porthmadog. If the train was really late then I’d get off at Minffordd. She said she’d tell the Guard and that if I did need to get off at Minffordd then to signal to the Guard and I would need to jump down onto the track as the coach would be off the platform. All sounded rather exciting to me.

I settled down in the 1st compartment and marvelled at the interior. A smaller version of the Isle of Wight coaches and quite sumptuous. After a while I realised we weren’t going anywhere so got out to see what was happening. It looked like the Double Farlie was on the front and the Guard walking down locking carriage doors. The Guard arrived and I asked the likely time of departure and arrival; “around 13:00”. All seemed doable but with much reduced time at Harbour station.

So with all doors locked we set off; delayed departure around 11:46 instead of 11:30. 9 bogie coaches, including the observation car, 4-wheel 1st/3rd composite compartment coach and a 4-wheel open coach. A bit overcast but a thrilling ride. I took some snaps outside the window - leather strap of course! - of the green countryside. Memories of my trip a year ago flooding back. The line passed the pumped storage generating facility then all too soon we arrived at Tanygrisiau our first stop.

I watched the driver from our train use a token key to set the signal for Blaenau then we waited for that train. PRINCE & BLANCHE double-heading steamed majestically through the station. Passengers on both trains taking pictures of each other.

We got to the loop thing (deviation spiral) and saw Workers having their lunch in a parked up green Mess coach at Dduallt. Impressive views as we steamed through the countryside. The brooding hulk of Trawsfynydd Magnox reactor was glimpsed in the distance.

At Tan y Bwlch we waited again to cross another train. LINDA and TALIESIN double-heading this one! A lady brought a try of tea mugs for the footplate crews whilst both engines took on water. After 10-15 minutes we set off again.

The route then felt very much downhill and we were very obviously running late and clearly wouldn’t arrive at 1300 as predicted. I thought that I might need to bale out at Minffordd after all. At this point I also realized that I didn’t have a map or timetable so didn’t know how much further there was to travel. So I called these up on my phone and checked the timetable and how long it should take from about where we were and the times from Minffordd to Harbour. With relief I saw that I should be ok.

At Minffordd the Guard, at the front of the train, looked down to the back of the train to see if I wanted to get out. I quickly brought my head back inside the compartment. At Boston Lodge a large group of Workers sat on the bleachers watching us pass. An enormous carriage shed was under construction. We crossed the Britannia Terrace causeway and entered Harbour station Porthmadog at about 13:15. Unfortunately that left me only 15-20 minutes to look around.

I walked to the head of our train by which time the Double Fairlie had gone to the coaling stage. So no photographs and no idea of the name as I’d not noticed it when arriving at Blaenau. Time for a pint of 6% cask cider in Spooners and pick up some sandwiches for the next leg of the journey.

Leaving Harbour station I set off through the town. Rain had held off but it was overcast. There were a lot of ambling tourists. Many with dogs getting in the way.

Arrived quickly at Porthmadog station. My 14:02 train to Birmingham International - and didn’t that look surreal on the departure board - was on time. There was time to take some photos. Then I noticed that there was a station bar! And they did plastic glasses to take out. And there is no Prohibition on the trains here, unlike the Valleys.

I positioned myself at the end of the platform near the crossing light and watched a 2-car DMU arrive. Boarded and found a good window seat. I would be on this train for 4 and a half hours… Onboard I ate my lunch, supped my ale, and talked to a South African. At Harlech Castle we waited for a train in the other direction. Rain had arrived as predicted and it was a bit gloomy.

Barmouth and it’s wooden bridge: I was really looking forward to this bit of the journey. As we crossed, I realized (1), I’ve not got a drone, (2) I couldn’t launch one anyway from a moving train without opening windows, and (3) the view from the train crossing the bridge is not the same as the view of trains crossing the bridge. I tried for some moody estuary iPhone shots under the leaden skies.

A lot of people joined the train and it was almost full and standing. At Tywyn we passed the Tallylyn Railway. A train was in the the platform. We were now 9L and heading East along the estuary. At Dovey Junction, a station with only footpath access, we saw the portion from Aberystwyth waiting for us in an absolute deluge of rain. Soon after we arrived in Machynlleth 9L with the Guard announcing all change. So we all got off and the DMU trundled off to the shed. The Aber’ portion arrived four minutes later and we all bundled on. Fortunately a lot of people had left so there was plenty of room on board. We departed on-time.

The next part of the journey was very scenic. We crossed a train in a loop in the middle of nowhere. We were motoring along and they were held at a signal for us to pass. Caersws 6L but it had stopped raining. At Newtown it looked like Rush Hour; 3L. It started tipping down again and rain water was soon coming in from the open drop lights. The Guard came through and closed them all. Instantly the temperature started to rise and the windows fogged up. Next up was Welshpool with the ridiculous new “station”; 2L. More like a bus shelter on an exposed windy pier. I’d come this way before last year. Visited the Severn Valley steam gala, rode the trains through the night then it in morning travelled up to Welshpool to ride the Welshpool and Llanfair Light Railway. The scenery changed and at 17:18 we arrived in Shrewsbury, passing “That” signal box!

There was a crew change, reversal and on-time departure 17:33. The scenery changes. In fact that is the End of Scenery. It becomes just another rail journey. Birmingham calls. An alert from Seatfrog pops up but I decide not to bid.

Arrival at Birmingham New Street at 18:30. The short train was in the middle of the platform so used the escalators up. Quick visit to the washroom then flummoxed by the layout. I could see the platform I need but there is no access. A sign for the platform unhelpfully pointed to nowhere really. I went to a gateline to enquire and was directed to somewhere else. At somewhere else I could again see the platform and again it is inaccessible. I found another gateline and at last I could reach platform 6. And they say London Bridge is complicated! At London Bridge there is a gateline upstairs and downstairs. Whichever gateline you use gives you access to ALL platforms. Quite simple really.

I boarded the Euston train and saw that it was very busy. Unusually no one is sitting in my reserved seat. Departure time comes and goes then the TM announced we were being delayed by another train. I wasn’t bothered as I’m practically home now. Departed 6L, 18:56.

The Pendolino meandered slowly along and reached International, the first stop,11L. It was very wet outside. Coventry, 12L, Rugby, 10L then Euston, 2020 arriving 5L.

A short hop on the Victoria line to Victoria and waited for my booked train. This was the first time I’d had an Advance on Southern stating a particular train. There was time to grab dinner from Upercrust then board the 20:55 to Brighton. I left the train at Clapham Junction, as per the ticket, and boarded the 21:13 to Portsmouth Harbour. Bizarre! On-time arrival at Horsham 21:58. Journeys End.

This was was a very pleasant and satisfying trip. There where a number of points where it all could have gone horribly wrong. It didn’t so I decided shortly after to do the loop clockwise. As I found in 2018 the ride uphill to Blaenau Ffestiniog is more exhilarating. After seeing that was possible I looked at doing the WHR and the FR is one day without the Round Robin. That was possible too and is now booked for 3/9/2019.
 
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A nice write-up. The tunnel into Blaenau is really long: a shade over two miles. I think the only UK tunnel that's longer goes under the Severn!
 

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A nice write-up. The tunnel into Blaenau is really long: a shade over two miles. I think the only UK tunnel that's longer goes under the Severn!
Thank you. Oh wow! I travel through Quarry Tunnel (LB&SCR) regularly but see that's only 1.2 miles and usually at high speed. Was really surprised by the Blaenau tunnel. Think I was very lucky the tunnel was open and the line not flooded elsewhere!
 

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The sheer length of the tunnel (and the expense involved) demonstrates how eager the LNWR were to get a share of the slate traffic from the Blaenau quarries.

When you come back and do the WHR and FR (what my wife describes as "the grand tour"), I presume you're coming to Caernarfon and working clockwise from there? That's the route my wife and I took a few years back. Living locally, we were able to make the 10am departure from Caernarfon, have lunch in Porthmadog, and return up the Conwy Valley in the afternoon. I expect that starting from London you'll be aiming for the 1pm train from Caernarfon?
 

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The sheer length of the tunnel (and the expense involved) demonstrates how eager the LNWR were to get a share of the slate traffic from the Blaenau quarries.

When you come back and do the WHR and FR (what my wife describes as "the grand tour"), I presume you're coming to Caernarfon and working clockwise from there? That's the route my wife and I took a few years back. Living locally, we were able to make the 10am departure from Caernarfon, have lunch in Porthmadog, and return up the Conwy Valley in the afternoon. I expect that starting from London you'll be aiming for the 1pm train from Caernarfon?
The amount of slate or slate waste around there is staggering! "The Grand Tour"; yes I like that very much. Snowdonia Single doesn't have the same ring about it.

Wish I was starting in London, would make my trips a lot easier ;)

05:41 Horsham 06:42 Victoria
07:30 Euston 09:14 Warrington Bank Quay
09:27 Warrington Bank Quay 10:53 Bangor
11:26 Bangor 11:52 Caenarfon
13:00 Caenarfon 15:15 Porthmadog Harbour
15:50 Porthmadog Harbour 17:00 Blaenau Ffestiniog
17:36 Blaenau Ffestiniog 18:34 Llandudno Junction
18:39 Llandudno Junction 19:30 Chester
19:35 Chester 21:03 Milton Keynes Central
21:12 Milton Keynes Central 22:31 Clapham Junction
22:43 Clapham Junction 23:27 Horsham

So can grab some lunch in Caernarfon and a few pints in Spooners. Looking forward to seeing inside the new station. And crossing fingers for no obstructions in the tunnel or flooding elsewhere!
 
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