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Most Depressing Stretch of Line on the Network

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The Prisoner

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Just sat on a Derby to Crewe train and it struck me that the line between Longport and Kidsgrove is one of the most depressing “scenic” experiences one can have.

Looking out of the window all I can see are scrapyards, rusty sidings, slag heaps and dereliction.

Is there a more depressing stretch of line on the network?
 
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Just sat on a Derby to Crewe train and it struck me that the line between Longport and Kidsgrove is one of the most depressing “scenic” experiences one can have.

Looking out of the window all I can see are scrapyards, rusty sidings, slag heaps and dereliction.

Is there a more depressing stretch of line on the network?
Doncaster to Sheffield was not very scenic. And it's so slow!
 

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The chord out of Bradford Interchange towards Leeds used to be horrendous, and it is also very slow so you really get a detailed look at all of the detritus. It's a while since I've travelled it now though.
 

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For an intercity journey, Wolverhampton-Birmingham. The whole lot is grim.
 

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For an intercity journey, Wolverhampton-Birmingham. The whole lot is grim.

It was much worse in years gone by, when there was an iron foundry right under the line at Crane St and huge gas works around Bilston.
In fact it's surprising how quickly the greenery has taken over in some areas, though there is still much dereliction.
I think it's time those black metal horses at the lineside were removed, myself.
I've no idea what they are supposed to represent, and there's one cluttering the platform at Wolverhampton.

Much the same applies between Longport and Kidsgrove - in fact it's a lot better than it was now the collieries, steelworks and pot banks have gone.
I find the old Trent & Mersey canal architecture at Kidsgrove fascinating, and the new (BR) Harecastle rail tunnel is much nicer and shorter than the old one, with the line now going through a park.

I find the run into Euston pretty grim, particularly about 2 miles out where blocks of flats back onto the railway.
Much the same into Liverpool St and most London approaches, which go on for miles and miles.
The elevated railways around Manchester city centre were also awful, but they have recently sprouted multiple tower blocks which has changed the scenery a lot.

However bad folk think our railway lineside view is, there are plenty of far worse examples on the continent where they have lost the plot with graffiti.
The approach to Paris Nord from the airport is especially bad, but also any big city in Italy will give horrific views on the approaches.
Even pristine Switzerland is not immune.
Then in some countries the train itself will be plastered in graffiti.
The Circumvesuviana in Naples is particularly repulsive.
 
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I think it's improved a bit now, but the North London Line from on board a grubby, vandalised 501 with barred windows was quite soul-destroying.
 

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Even a semi-derelict industrial landscape is better than the zero landscape of Liverpool Central to South Parkway !
 

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Maybe it’s just me but I find rusty sidings, decrepit factories, scrapyards, gasworks, steelworks etc make for a far more visually interesting line side view than rows of suburban semis or modern intensive farmland. The latter may be a little prettier but it’s also rather bland.
 

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Even a semi-derelict industrial landscape is better than the zero landscape of Liverpool Central to South Parkway !
This seems a little sweeping for a line which runs
- in tunnel
- through the docklands
- in cuttings through leafy suburbs.

Which bit(s) do you object to? As an occasional user, it just strikes me as fairly normal townscape.
 

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The old Eurostar route into Waterloo was pretty grim turning right at Battersea. Many visitors first sight of London.
With views of Big Ben etc. And BTW said route entered London via its relatively leafy suburbs (where I grew up, so I'm obviously unbiased), which is an improvement on the Essex Marshes and tunnels. :)
 

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Birmingham Snow Hill to Hall Green on the Stratford line.

Derelict and half functioning factories, Car Garages, rubbish, scrap and Fare dodgers galore.
 

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With views of Big Ben etc. And BTW said route entered London via its relatively leafy suburbs (where I grew up, so I'm obviously unbiased), which is an improvement on the Essex Marshes and tunnels. :)

First time I went on E* I overheard a posh American couple talking enthusiastically about "going through the ghettos". I wondered if they had, even in the 1990s, seen the house prices.
 

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Got to be the Thameslink core hasn't it. Rammed full of people about to go on holiday. And pitch black for the best part
 

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With views of Big Ben etc. And BTW said route entered London via its relatively leafy suburbs (where I grew up, so I'm obviously unbiased), which is an improvement on the Essex Marshes and tunnels. :)
Never did E* into Waterloo, but I agree that HS1 once North of the river is very grim.
 

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I agree, if you are not doing it on a regular basis, the changes from one month to the next really catch your eye.
 

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Maybe it’s just me but I find rusty sidings, decrepit factories, scrapyards, gasworks, steelworks etc make for a far more visually interesting line side view than rows of suburban semis or modern intensive farmland. The latter may be a little prettier but it’s also rather bland.
You’re not the only one, I’m the same. Pretty doesn’t mean interesting,
 

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For an intercity journey, Wolverhampton-Birmingham. The whole lot is grim.

I love it, it's one of my favourite urban railways. But then I like canals, and particularly canals and railways side-by-side, showing the different ages of the industrial revolution.
 

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Even a semi-derelict industrial landscape is better than the zero landscape of Liverpool Central to South Parkway !

Not true. Cressington is a historic station and it's good looking out for glimpses of the River.
 

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You’re not the only one, I’m the same. Pretty doesn’t mean interesting,
Also in agreement. It was much more interesting back in the day when there were private sidings however. What I loved about a rail journey was watching the railway activity.
 
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