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You love to hear it
Not really adding much to the discussion though?

Still quite notably older than their new rival.
Do tourists really pick up on that sort of thing? It's obviously important for emissions but for the average holidaymaker from Tokyo or Tulsa, I don't know if they'll know or care.
 
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Is this Golden Tours first venture outside London?
York Pullman are highly respected in the area, for their service and quality fleet. Many of the hotels will have links to Pullman for excursions etc and could well push their patrons towards their service!
 

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Good luck to them, I hope they're successful and erode into Transdevs passenger base :wub:
Every time :rolleyes:

Like it has been said here, two companies operating similar tours isn't really needed, especially in a time like this when passenger and tourist numbers are significantly down.
 

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Like it has been said here, two companies operating similar tours isn't really needed, especially in a time like this when passenger and tourist numbers are significantly down.

The bus in the picture on the website has previously been in London, and indeed may well have stayed there were it not for COVID.

It is possible that Golden Tours are trying to diversify through this period by trying limited-scale ventures elsewhere to try and keep the wheels turning, and won't necessarily mind if they don't turn out to be huge money spinners. When some semblance of normality returns (and that may be next month, next year, or when these vehicles are due for replacement), they can make a subtle exit back to London having kept a bus on the road (hopefully) making some money rather than gathering dust in a depot.
 

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Every time :rolleyes:

Like it has been said here, two companies operating similar tours isn't really needed, especially in a time like this when passenger and tourist numbers are significantly down.

You may think it isn't needed, but competition is a good thing.
 

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The bus in the picture on the website has previously been in London, and indeed may well have stayed there were it not for COVID.

It is possible that Golden Tours are trying to diversify through this period by trying limited-scale ventures elsewhere to try and keep the wheels turning, and won't necessarily mind if they don't turn out to be huge money spinners. When some semblance of normality returns (and that may be next month, next year, or when these vehicles are due for replacement), they can make a subtle exit back to London having kept a bus on the road (hopefully) making some money rather than gathering dust in a depot.
I guess thats fair.
You may think it isn't needed, but competition is a good thing.
Competition can be a good thing. It isn't always.
Beat me to it!
 

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What licence are Transdev running the airport services on?

Keighley? Wrong
Harrogate? Wrong

PB0001873/89 Registered (Short notice)
YORKSHIRE COASTLINER LTD
Route: Leeds City Bus Station to Leeds Bradford Airport Via Horsforth & Rawdon
Service number: A1
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 30 Aug 2020

PB0001873/88 Registered (Short notice)
YORKSHIRE COASTLINER LTD
Route: Bradford Interchange to Harrogate Bus Station via Yeadon, Leeds Bradford Airport
Service number: A2
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 30 Aug 2020

PB0001873/89 Registered (Short notice)
YORKSHIRE COASTLINER LTD
Route: Bradford Interchange to Leeds Bradford Airport via Shipley, Guiseley
Service number: A3
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 30 Aug 2020

Plus they are renumbering them from the current 'boeing' numbers
 

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I wonder whether its due to the fact that the Coastliner Licence is the only one with spare Ops Discs and the other licences are running at full or to near full capacity
 

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Increasing the the O licence shouldn't be a difficult process. Perhaps Coastliner has a different set of T&C's for drivers that make it more competitive compared to the other Transdev ops in the area?
 

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Increasing the the O licence shouldn't be a difficult process. Perhaps Coastliner has a different set of T&C's for drivers that make it more competitive compared to the other Transdev ops in the area?

It's not difficult, but it takes time - and then what do you do if the increase isn't permitted?

It's not unlikely they'll have applied for a new one at the new premises. But they don't need it yet.
 

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As good as useless posters appear to be popping up advertising the new Flyer services to Leeds Bradford - the website isn't even live yet!

Screenshot 2020-07-30 at 21.47.36.png
 

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But it's #Amazing

Isn't Flyer a brand name Trentbarton used?Hardly original.
Flyer has been used for countless services over the years, not least by First West of England. TB uses Flyer for the fast link to Ilkeston to Derby.

Perhaps you want a removal of all such names across the industry so no Flyers, Airline, Airlink, Shuttle, Clipper nor anything with a local connection (so hackneyed) or any generic Express, Line(r) Connect or Hoppa nor anything related to metals nor gems?

Or is it just your standard anti Hornby whinge?
 

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But it's #Amazing

Isn't Flyer a brand name Trentbarton used?Hardly original.
Wow, can't believe you are still singing the same tune...
Flyer has been used for countless services over the years, not least by First West of England. TB uses Flyer for the fast link to Ilkeston to Derby.

Perhaps you want a removal of all such names across the industry so no Flyers, Airline, Airlink, Shuttle, Clipper nor anything with a local connection (so hackneyed) or any generic Express, Line(r) Connect or Hoppa nor anything related to metals nor gems?

Or is it just your standard anti Hornby whinge?
It's also used by TB for the Spondon Flyer, and like you say it's not that big a deal. Actually I don't think many airport services use the brand 'Flyer', correct me if I'm wrong.
 

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Differing opinions are what makes the forum interesting, but please try to keep it civil, folks. Thanks :)
 

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The issue with new housing is that all too often, it is impenetrable. Developers build them around car use and even where that may be restricted e.g. limited parking - one space per flat, you will often see cars parked on the road. Developments often fail to have bus access front and centre; even a fair sized development near where I live was basically given a couple of bus stops on the periphery and a bit of s106 funding for a service to pump prime it for a few years.

As for out of town locations, unless they're large enough to create a critical mass of passengers, or represent a small diversion off the route, then they are really difficult to serve effectively.

Now as for CityZap Manchester, that was doomed to failure. Not fast enough to compete with trains, and not distinctive enough to compete with NX.

Think you're underestimating how difficult it is to have a successful brand new service



That's section 106 funding (or at least in England it is). If you're a developer, do you lose the equivalent of x number of houses or do you plonk a bus stop at the road end and throw £150k at a bus company? And when do you start the service - from first occupancy or completion?
In the old days people went into the centre to work, or to large industrial plants nearby. There were works buses. I remember Skelton grange power Station works specials in Leeds Central bus station.

now we have spread out more, and commute further to workplaces out of town. but look at bus maps and most buses are radial. few buses go across the suburbs. So for many, that would mean a bus into the city and another out.

OK there is the 91 in Leeds....
 

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There's a fair bit going on there with all the colours, but not bad for a temporary fix and at least they've actually gone to the effort of keeping the brand consistent. What isn't too great is the back end of one of two of them. Caked in dirt and soot from the engine bay. A sure sign that these buses are on their last legs now.
Mechanically they are largely less than 10 years old having been fitted with new engines amongst other components
 

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Timetable published for the flyer bus services (Leeds-Bradford Airport). Decent frequencies but not the round the clock. TBH, I expect that the recent changes due to COVID have called time on any plans to run through the night.
 

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Is it just me or are the fares quite a bit higher than Tiger?

Well, if I've read it correctly, an Airport Return from Leeds to the Airport will have give up by 50p to £6.50 since I used it last November.

I'm don't know regarding the fares from Harrogate or Bradford...
 

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