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i used the new 85 sellafield bus to get to and from work today it was packed both ways. reays are sponsering the itv border weather forecasts now nice bit of advertizing for them there
 

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i used the new 85 sellafield bus to get to and from work today it was packed both ways. reays are sponsering the itv border weather forecasts now nice bit of advertizing for them there

As quoted by a cartoon sheep in a field:
"A maaaaarvellous way to travel around carlisle this autumn. Reays.co.uk" (marvellous in sheep language - baa)

With the number 63 branded City Hopper Primo picking up the sheep at a bus stop... which I never knew went through a field (Infirmary - City Centre - Botcherby - Harraby - Old Harraby - Upperby - Currock aha) Closing sponsor message is the sheep being dropped off :lol:
http://www.itv.com/border/fullprogramme/ - before weather near end of film
 
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2 & 2A's have been running in threes, passed 17023 on a 2 at Fox & Goose, then udi trident on a 2A in Kempton Road, and 22815 on a 2 in Newmarket Avenue. All with-in 2-mins.
 

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Reays have spent quite a lot of finance companies money on advertising for their new services and stuff, yet have had rather poor results! things could pick up like, but i'm not too sure at the minute!
all of the "I'm getting the CityHopper to ASDA" and "I'm getting the CityHopper from Upperby" type stuff on the adverts, and it seems that not many people at all want to get the CityHopper anywhere!!!

20129 and 20901 on Seaton at end of the day. dunno which one replaced 34079 on there.
it seems 34079 ventured onto Harrington replacing a broken Solo, but i'm not sure. it was sat on the annexe tonight.
47059 and 47062 also been sat on annexe tonight after services through the day.

20913 and 35249 on 30 and 31, as well as previously mentioned 16651, 20905 and 35248. so a maximum of 8 of the 11 MANs out on 30 and 31. someone take them all away and get us shiny ADL E400's, PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!

47006 on 2015 X5 to Cockermouth.
 

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Reays have spent quite a lot of finance companies money on advertising for their new services and stuff, yet have had rather poor results! things could pick up like, but i'm not too sure at the minute!
all of the "I'm getting the CityHopper to ASDA" and "I'm getting the CityHopper from Upperby" type stuff on the adverts, and it seems that not many people at all want to get the CityHopper anywhere!!!

It's looking more like "CityFlopper" than "CityHopper" ....

But as they say...

♫ ♫ "Things... Can only get better..." ♫ ♫
 

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my work mate told me reays 140a sellafield express bus is running it goes from carlisle through cockermouth and frizington i dont no about the other four busses but he said that one has been full
 

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my work mate told me reays 140a sellafield express bus is running it goes from carlisle through cockermouth and frizington i dont no about the other four busses but he said that one has been full

Passed at least 3 with Sellafield Express in the window this morn, all heading to Wigton. Thats one hell of a lot of dead miles!!!!
 

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A few sightings from Preston yesterday, would have posted this when I got back but had no time.

33203 on 61 Blackpool:
http://davidsnonrailwaypics.fotopic.net/p67542881.html ,
33172 on 68 Blackpool,
22257 & 16645 on 4C Preston College,
34680 & 16636 on 125 Bolton,
47491 on 2A Ormskirk.

Preston Bus Solo 47753 had an unusual display of "Sept 10" on both front and side boxes,
http://davidsnonrailwaypics.fotopic.net/p67542867.html

ALX400s 18010 & 18011 were both at the bus station when I arrived, parked on the national express stands, before heading out in convoy, destination unknown. I would have taken pictures of them both but thought they were just two of the Preston examples, that was until I noticed the fleet numbers as they passed me on their way out.

David.c
 
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Reays cityhoppers running rather empty again
Both joncks 685
17017 and 20994 on 300. 15684 on too
Non tacho'd 20129 on 600 with 16654!

Stagecoach have introduced speedy boarding in Carlisle, with a new portable ticket machine. The box is painted in corporate livery. It has proved a success this morning!
 

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in response to an earlier question posted on here, Reays DO have YX60 DXG. it is CityHopper 64 branded, and was out in service today, as seen here. the side LED wasn't working. i havn't seen the 57 reg one today.

Reays have changed the displays on their 63 circulars. the destination is now set to just "Infirmary", so even when the bus is heading away from the Infirmary to Upperby etc, it still shows "Infirmary"!!! the scrolling via points have been changed, so they're now in order for each direction on the circle. they have also added scrolling on the side display, in the same style as Stagecoach :roll:

33161 on 61's this afternoon.
20959 on 1640 300 to Workington.
42094 and 20943 on 66's late on this afternoon.
 
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in response to an earlier question posted on here, Reays DO have YX60 DXG. it is CityHopper 64 branded, and was out in service today, as seen here. the side LED wasn't working. i havn't seen the 57 reg one today.

Saw it on Monday, but forgot to post the info on here (probably because it was me who asked the question), despite posting it on other forums :oops:
 

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Not much been happening lately, 40033 looking great parked at the Uni yesterday. Its the freshers time of year again so two members of staff are stationed at the Uni to speed up boarding and assist new students.
 

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47062 on short 300. The route swapped to the minibus rota on the 4th of October.
MCW and another B10 on Seaton, + one B10 on Moorclose. :roll:
34616 on 30/31 with H118 SAO :)

Obviously, several B10's have been withdrawn due to the end of the SL LTD Contract.
 
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Good to see 15683 in Carlisle this morning with "Ryder Cup Park & Ride East" on the screen and a board "300 Whitehaven" in the window :D. Got a shot, but it will have to wait until I get the film developed.

Also saw 16870 arrive into Carlisle on a 300 and then return to Willowholme.

33076 was out on 61s this morning, and 34048 was on 76s, but they were both parked up outside Debenhams this afternoon.

20977 on short 685s
20994 on 600
20895 on 38
20909 on 66
20904 on 94
20959 on 93
14232, 14235, 14247, 16330, 16351, 16353, 16441, 20966, 20979 and 52627 on schools this afternoon
16397 on 554

Reays KX57FKV appeared briefly this morning showing Sorry out of service: I am sure that it had no route branding other than the generic City Hopper bit. Am I imagining this, or can someone confirm that the route 64 branding has been removed from this bus.
 

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Reays KX57FKV appeared briefly this morning showing Sorry out of service: I am sure that it had no route branding other than the generic City Hopper bit. Am I imagining this, or can someone confirm that the route 64 branding has been removed from this bus.

it has had its 64 branding removed, and is now a spare bus for the CityHopper services, now DXG has turned up! it went onto 95.
Reays LED displays have been updated yet again. scrolling removed from side displays, "Infirmary Circular" back as the destination on 63 after complaints from passengers about "Infirmary". the scrolling has also stopped, but on some destinations, part of via points has been cut off, suggesting it should still be scrolling!
yet again, Reays buses have been running rather empty, some with still a massive 0 passengers. the most i noted on a Reays bus today was 7.

Good to see 15683 in Carlisle this morning with "Ryder Cup Park & Ride East" on the screen and a board "300 Whitehaven" in the window :D. Got a shot, but it will have to wait until I get the film developed.

Also saw 16870 arrive into Carlisle on a 300 and then return to Willowholme

15683 was pulled off the 1010 300 from Carlisle due to a little diesel leak. it was attended to by Carlisle fitters, and returned to 300 on the 1410 when Carlisle got their 16870 back, which went on loan to Lillyhall to do the run. there was still a little bit of diesel / oil dripping out of the back end while it was sat at the stand before departing (it left 5 minutes late, despite 16870 getting to Carlisle before 1500, wasn't that many passengers either really). the LED displays had been turned off by the time i got to the bus station, i did see the P&R related stuff though when it was going to the bus station from Willowholme.


20451 was out and about this afternoon, it looked to have went out on school work. it was sat at the bus station most of the afternoon, then left at approx 1445 in the direction of Brampton.

17017 on 300 as well. it has been a bit of a regular on there recently!!!
 
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For those interested in such things 20765 finally left Lillyhall today for that long reverse to Trevor Wigley's behind a wrecker. Caught me by surprise so no phot'.
 

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20545/47 on X1
21007 and 40033 sitting at the Uni 21007 at one end and 40033 at the other end.

Not much else to report at all really.
 

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Withdrawn trident 17019 should have gone up to carlisle after doing a david blaine(one minute it goes out of the yard and the next it`s outside the garage!!)
16331 was dropped off en route to preston,
16185 has finally got an engine and 17022 has been withdrawn and being repanelled for repaint.
 

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CUMBRIAN BUS SERVICE CHANGED AFTER PUBLIC DEBATE -Last updated at 13:10, Thursday, 07 October 2010 (News and Star)

The bus service between Maryport and Cockermouth has been changed following consultation with passengers and parish councils.

From Monday next week the service 58 bus will operate at slightly different times on some runs after calls from users asking to improve the performance and punctuality of the service.

Cumbria County Council, which gives financial support to Stagecoach to operate the service, consulted with interested parties to come to a solution to improve the timetable and overcome some of the timekeeping issues.

From Monday the journey times will be increased from 28 minutes from Maryport to Cockermouth to 36 minutes and departure times for certain buses will be altered.

Another problem that has been dealt with is the overcrowding on the bus during school term times as more pupils from the Maryport and Dearham areas are attending Cockermouth School.

Following discussions between the county council, parents and the school, another scheduled bus service will be provided to ease the congestion.

This school service, which is operated by Ellenvale Coaches, is not receiving any financial support from the county council as children are travelling to an out-of-catchment school, but establishing this school bus is reducing the problem of overcrowding on the 58.

more at http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/c...fter-public-debate-1.766264?referrerPath=home for those who are intrested

and a PDF of the new changes can be found here: http://www.cnnewmedia.co.uk/locker/ns/pdf/Service_58_Changes.pdf
 

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Withdrawn trident 17019 should have gone up to carlisle after doing a david blaine(one minute it goes out of the yard and the next it's outside the garage!!)
16331 was dropped off en route to preston,
16185 has finally got an engine and 17022 has been withdrawn and being repanelled for repaint.

Hopefully 16185 will be up and running soon and go to a new home! Will be interesting to see where 17019 ends up.
 

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would be really nice if Carlisle got 2, but i can see it only being the 1 for 554. it would be really good if Carlisle did get a few extra low floors though. their MANs are starting to get a little bit like Lillyhall's (rather useless), and they do indeed do some 300 runs, although, they're aimed more at college students than general passengers use, but it is open to normal passengers! it departs Carlisle at 1640 (better for the college students finishing at 4, so they're not rushing to the bus station to get the 1610), arriving to Workington Bus Station around 1800, where it terminates. I believe the bus then goes to Lillyhall, where it spends the night. the bus then works the 0654 Workington - Carlisle, arriving to Carlisle at 0825.

apparently, Lillyhall's B10M fleet is being cut from 18 to 5!!! the 5 buses staying are thought to be 20910 & 20994 (tacho'd), plus 3 R-XVM's of which may be tacho'd up. 20129 (P129 XCN), 20195 (M595 OSO), 20436 (M436 TBV), 20473 (R473 MCW), 20902 (R902 XVM) and 20921 (R921 XVM) are rumoured definates to leave Lillyhall. 20901, 20903, 20905 and 20913 (apparently that one is refusing to do any reasonable speed at all) are thought to be leaving as well, although i don't have any solid info on that! so it may be wrong! if true though, it leaves 20918, 20919, 20923, 20931, 20945 and 20962 to choose between for the other 3 to remain at Lillyhall. (i'd personally keep 20918, 20919 and 20945, but again, we'll see!)
with any luck, we'll see the withdrawn R-XVM's moved on to depots in the North West replacing older B10M's, but i suppose we'll soon see! recently repainted 20934 (not for ASDA as rumoured) is also up for transfer out of Lillyhall.
 

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Unlikely to go to Morecambe, unless to replace 20133. Don't forget Morecambe's M regs are operated off reserve - so aren't really eligible to be replaced.

Look how they've coped without 20451 as well....
 

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apparently, Lillyhall's B10M fleet is being cut from 18 to 5!!!

If the magic number is indeed five, then we can prepare ourselves for some interesting allocations. Two needed for 600, one is often needed on X4/5. Not sure if some of the School Contracts need a B10M. There's often a couple on 30/31. They're also needed to cover dead Solos on town services. :roll:
 

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Lillyhall definately having a good clear out! and if ASDA get a B10M then there will be further allocation issues. I can't see this going down well! Having buses on the wrong services isn't as bad as having no buses at all! especially when our solos are dead and now we've lost one on town services to the short-300... aha sorry for whoever gets 20913 though!!
So is this happening fairly soon-ish?
 

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Major review of Allerdale bus services

Last updated at 20:16, Thursday, 07 October 2010

SUBSIDISED bus services across Allerdale are being reviewed by Cumbria County Council to save money.
(c) CN Group
Dianne Standen, of the West Cumbria Bus Users' Group

Passengers are being warned that they might have to make other transport arrangements.

The council is looking at all 108 bus services that it subsidises in the county as it seeks to save money in the face of Government spending cuts.

The 30 Allerdale services affected by the review include:

* 60 Maryport to Skinburness, operated by Reay’s Coaches
* 36 Cockermouth to Workington via Brigham, operated by John Hoban Travel
* 46 Workington to Salterbeck (Mon-Sat after 8pm and all day Sundays), operated by Stagecoach
* 47 Workington to Seaton (Mon-Sat after 8pm and all-day Sundays), operated by Stagecoach
* 50 Workington to Moorclose (Mon-Sat after 8pm and all-day Sundays), operated by Stagecoach
* X5 Workington to Penrith (all journeys after 7.15pm from Workington and 9.35pm from Penrith), operated by Stagecoach
* 300 Carlisle to Whitehaven via Maryport and Workington (10.45pm service from Carlisle only), operated by Stagecoach
* 36 Cockermouth to Workington via Brigham, operated by Reay’s Coaches
* 35 Cockermouth to Workington via Great Broughton, operated by Reay’s Coaches
* 35 Cockermouth to Workington via Great Broughton, operated by AA Travel
* 222 Workington to Whitehaven via Pica and Gilgarran, operated by John Hoban Travel
* 218 Frizington to Workington via Dean (Fridays), operated by J B Pickthall
* 39 Aspatria to Carlisle via Fletchertown (Tuesday and Friday), operated by Reay’s Coaches
* 56 Maryport Town Service, operated by Stagecoach
* 57 Maryport Town Service (late afternoons), which calls at Victoria Cottage Hospital, operated by Stagecoach
* 58 Maryport to Cockermouth via Dearham and Broughton Moor, operated by Stagecoach
* 101 Cockermouth to Rose Lane, operated by Ken Routledge
* 949 Buttermere to Cockermouth Dial a Ride, operated by Ken Routledge
* 34 Cockermouth to Slatefell, operated by Reay’s Coaches
* 36 Cockermouth to Workington via Brigham, operated by Reay’s Coaches
* 217 Cockermouth to Cleator Moor via Eaglesfield and Dean, operated by Rosie’s Travel
* 77/77A Keswick to Buttermere Honister Rambler (summer only), operated by Stagecoach
* 78 Keswick to Seatoller Borrowdale Bus (winter Sundays), operated by Stagecoach
* 554 Carlisle to Keswick via Wigton and Bothel (daily in winter), operated by Stagecoach
* X5 Workington to Penrith via Cockermouth and Keswick (all journeys after 7.15pm from Workington and 9.35pm from Penrith), operated by Stagecoach

County council leader Eddie Martin said that if cuts were made, passengers in rural areas would have to make alternative arrangements such as using Rural Wheels community transport scheme and car sharing.

He said: “If there are going to be cuts to subsidised services, and we don’t know for certain that this will happen, although it is definitely a possibility, people will have to look into alternative methods of transport.”

He added that it may be possible for the county council or another agency to put on an alternative service.

“What we don’t want to do is compromise people getting to work and if cuts were made we would do everything we can to minimise impact,” he added.

Trevor Fee, county, Allerdale and Seaton parish councillor, said the number 47 bus was a lifeline for many people in Seaton, especially with the closure of Workington Bridge.

He said: “It is not just the elderly that will be affected but people of all ages, including young families who are often seen waiting at the stops.

“I can understand where the county council are coming from asking people to car share, but a lot of people don’t have them.”

Lillian Baldry, Salterbeck Residents Association chairman, said: “If the number 46 bus was cut it would affect the whole community.

“I would like assurances from the county council that people will be catered for.”

Carole Armstrong, Allerdale councillor for Salterbeck, said: “I would have a lot of concerns if the number 46 service was cut because it is our main route to town.

“There are a lot of school kids who use it to travel to St Joseph’s School.

“If it was cut some people would have to walk up to a mile back to their houses and that is not easy when you are carrying heavy shopping.

“The council shouldn’t be telling us to car share; they should be looking to provide an alternative service if the bus was taken away.”

Allerdale and town councillor Peter Bales said: “If the bus through Moorclose is cut then quite simply those people who haven’t got a car are stuck in their houses.

“A lot of them would be reliant on somebody to get their food and pay their rent.

“I hope that councillors and more importantly residents and regular bus users are consulted before anything is done.”

Dianne Standen, of the West Cumbria Bus Users’ Group, said: “People need to rally together and talk about how best to tackle the situation and put their views to the council to stop cuts from happening.

“The county council holds the resources and I think they are saying it is going to get bad to scare people. I think there are other areas of spending it could look into cutting before it gets rid of those services that are vital to people’s lives.”

The look at bus services is part of an overall review of all the county council’s 800 services as it prepares to deal with an expected cut to its funding from the Government.




as for the B10M fleet cut, it certainly will make things a bit tight! 1 for 48, 2 for 600 (they start rather late on, and finish early on, so i suppose there'd be time for the buses on there to do B10M school work as well). that'd only leave 2 B10M's + 52628 to cover as spares for those 3 buses, plus covering the useless MAN E300's on 30 and 31, covering Profile's on X4/X5, plus covering town services. hopefully we'll see more LF's come in! constant use of B10Ms on local town services is just what Reays are looking for to expand here!!!
 
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