Dai Corner
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The test runs are going from Cardiff to Swindon instead of Gloucester while the latter line is closed for engineering work. There is likely to be one at Swindon most days.
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Bob Price
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They are running to Swindon while the line up to Gloucester is being fixed. They also turn at Hullavington. Lots of miles being added so hopefully they will enter service sooner rather than later
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011 currently on it's way to Cardiff, being hauled by 66001
penguin8967
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Since the Newport-Gloucester line reopened 231s have returned to running to Gloucester but are still running to Swindon as well.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:K04950/2022-09-15/detailed 3Q61 0934 Cardiff Canton Sidings to Swindon
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:K04943/2022-09-15/detailed 3G66 1017 Cardiff Signal 2328 to Gloucester
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:K04950/2022-09-15/detailed 3Q61 0934 Cardiff Canton Sidings to Swindon
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:K04943/2022-09-15/detailed 3G66 1017 Cardiff Signal 2328 to Gloucester
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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I saw 3Q61 as I came out of Pret yesterday, a pair of the new order. These were 231s? I couldn't get the numbers, they didn't stop for long anyway and I was outside the station. I like what I've seen though 
3G66 was a solo 3-car train, correct? I was in the accessible room on 170271 as the new train arrived, saw the back half of it and watched it leave. Again, no number got.
The new stuff does look good and I'm keen to try them out when the time comes. If anyone has the numbers of yesterday's trains, I'd appreciate receiving them so I can add them to my book Thanks in advance!
3G66 was a solo 3-car train, correct? I was in the accessible room on 170271 as the new train arrived, saw the back half of it and watched it leave. Again, no number got.
The new stuff does look good and I'm keen to try them out when the time comes. If anyone has the numbers of yesterday's trains, I'd appreciate receiving them so I can add them to my book
Thanks in advance!
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From Twitter. Ben Jones has shared some photos of 756102 at Innotrains show. Part of the Staedler stand.
Aren't all the 231s now in Wales? So you'd have seen a 756 or 398?
Speaking of 231s, has there been any announcement of a date for them to enter service in their temporary role as surrogate 756s? And, when that happens, will there be several thrown into service at once replacing all the 769s or will there be a transition allowing passengers to travel on both 769s and 231s in the same day?
I suspect it might have been 756102, which was on display at Innotrans in Berlin week before last.
Yes. TfW want rid of the 769's asap because it then frees up depot space at Canton for other new trains or units to arrive. 231's have bigger fuel tanks, more seats and are more powerful than the 756's. Unsure whether TfW will use the 231's as a temporary measure, or not.
Peter Sarf
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Must be soon as they were out testing (or fault free running) a lot in July. I got the impression there were no technical problems.
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A tweet from vuz.as showing a 756 at Velum ready for testing
And I have heard at least one of the 231's has been signed off and is now ready for driver training. Anyone from TfW able to confirm this?
And I have heard at least one of the 231's has been signed off and is now ready for driver training. Anyone from TfW able to confirm this?
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231003 makes the first visit of the class to the bay platform at Caerphilly with 3A50 2105 Cardiff Canton Sidings to Caerphilly return 3A51 2138 Caerphilly to Cardiff. Daylight runs start next week on the Rhymney. 14.10.22 © NH
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Does anyone have any records of units 231006 / 008 / 010 having come out for testing/mileage runs?
What's the purpose of the white squares either side of the text on the destination display?
StripeyNick
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I've seen 006 out on a couple of occasions. Once at Cardiff Central back in June on the Gloucester runs and again at Cogan in August on the Barry trips
Buzz68
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Article from InnoTrans 2022 which featured 756102
Brand new TfW trains showcased at InnoTrans 2022
Global Railway Review have exclusive pictures of two brand-new trains that Transport for Wales have showcased at InnoTrans 2022.
From my rough notes:
231006
Rhymney 1 July
Gloucester 21 July with 001, 5 May and 24 May
231008
Gloucester 21 Sept
231010
Gloucester 8 Oct with 007, 26 Aug with 009, 15 Aug with 007 and 10 Aug with 007
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Peter Sarf
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I see on RTT there was then a 3A52 21:57 Cardiff Central to Rhymney using 231003. Then a pair of 3A53 23:00 Rhymney to Penarth (arr 00:23 +7), one for 231003 and the other was vague - 140 !. Then the trail goes cold.
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Buzz68
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Yes then it went 3A54 0026 Penarth to Cardiff Canton Sidings
Peter Sarf
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Thanks I remember I ignored that as it was before it had arrived.
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Article from InnoTrans 2022 which featured 756102
Brand new TfW trains showcased at InnoTrans 2022
Global Railway Review have exclusive pictures of two brand-new trains that Transport for Wales have showcased at InnoTrans 2022.www.globalrailwayreview.com
From my rough notes:
231006
Rhymney 1 July
Gloucester 21 July with 001, 5 May and 24 May
231008
Gloucester 21 Sept
231010
Gloucester 8 Oct with 007, 26 Aug with 009, 15 Aug with 007 and 10 Aug with 007
Thanks both
Peter Sarf
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Barry is apparently where some 231s are parked up. Does anyone know which ones and how easy to see (I have no idea how or where any sidings could be).
This evening there were five or more 231s at Canton. I could id none this evening. One on the South side hiding behind a 769 (very vexing for someone from Croydon !), two in shed (maybe more) and two beside the main line (North side). But 007 was alone on the main line side around midday (becoming two this eve). Yesterday (Sunday) 009 was alone on the mainline side.
This evening there were five or more 231s at Canton. I could id none this evening. One on the South side hiding behind a 769 (very vexing for someone from Croydon !), two in shed (maybe more) and two beside the main line (North side). But 007 was alone on the main line side around midday (becoming two this eve). Yesterday (Sunday) 009 was alone on the mainline side.
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StripeyNick
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008, 009 & 010 went to Barry on 4th October so probably 008 & 010 are there.
I was at the station the other night and nothing was visible so I'm guessing that they are stabled alongside the depot on the new sidings
Peter Sarf
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Thanks for the info. I did start wondering if TfW were rotating the 231s between Barry and elsewhere. Seems 009 might be proof. The 231s do not seem to be stored and unwanted at Barry unlike certain other non Staedler classes. I better work out how viewable the new depot is.
StripeyNick
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It's only viewable from the footbridge on the station and is generally empty apart from on a Sunday or overnight.
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Can anyone confirm the formation details for the Class 231's please?
Peter Sarf
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Today about 16:00 there were four 231s lurking at Barry. Can see them from a train to Barry Island but to get the numbers is very hard.
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Thanks Jonathan, no idea why I never thought to check there