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How did station staff and signalmen keep themselves occupied in between trains on quiet branch lines?

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Until the 1960s there were lots of railway lines (mainly branch lines, but some long distance routes), that only had 3 or 4 trains a day. There must have been long periods in between the trains when nothing must have happened. How did the station staff and signalmen keep themselves occupied when no trains were due?

I could imagine the station staff had quite a few jobs they could do, like cleaning & paperwork etc, but I am not sure what the signalmen would have done? Did they have to remain alert in case any trains arrived unexpected?
 
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Some staff had green fingers. IIRC the Isle of Wight had an annual best kept station garden competition. Plenty of time to care for a plot within sound of the block bells!
 

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Many places with rubbish passenger services up until a point in time had lots of goods, particularly in rural farming areas. Some of the time would be spent in sorting it out.

It was of course a slower pace of life back then. Clean up, tidy up, sort the goods, book, label and ship parcels traffic, send and receive telegrams, sell things, pop to the pub, keep up with the paperwork, read, give haircuts, basically anything you might imagine from memoirs I've read.

One sleepy Southern back water in the South West I read about had a signalbox with a passing loop and pair of platforms. In practice the points were never moved as trains never crossed there and as long as the driver had the staff and the signals were off in at least one direction they just used to drive in and out at their leisure, whilst the signalman got on with helping the porter.
 

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As I understand it, most quiet, branch-line signalboxes were (are) equipped with a shabby, but comfortable second-hand armchair, placed conveniently close to the stove. The ideal spot to 'rest one's eyes' for a minute or two between infrequent trains.


I remember reading a book which was a memoir / account of a signalman's life in Lancashire during the 1940-1960 period.

The author mentioned that there were generally two types of signalman to be found in his (ex-L&Y) area:
  • Those who enjoyed engaging in the mental challenge of regulating traffic at a busy location (at a time when the myriad of goods trains ran to timetables which were more a general suggestion, rather than rigorous schedules). These men were keen for promotion and often aspired to transfer to bigger and more important signalboxes.
  • Those who were assigned to a sleepy backwater with sparse and intermittant work, and were more than happy to stay in such boxes at lower pay grades for much of their railway career.
 

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in Lancashire during the 1940-1960 period.

The author mentioned that there were generally two types of signalman to be found in his (ex-L&Y) area:
  • Those who enjoyed engaging in the mental challenge of regulating traffic at a busy location (at a time when the myriad of goods trains ran to timetables which were more a general suggestion, rather than rigorous schedules). These men were keen for promotion and often aspired to transfer to bigger and more important signalboxes.
During a visit to Crewe Heritage Centre, it can be seen to this day how daunting a task it would have been to work Crewe North Junction box (and presumably it’s neighbour at the other end of the station) and during the earliest part of that period there would have been much important war related traffic, so those aspiring to reach what was probably the top signalling grade really did have their hands full.

It’s interesting how much variation existed within the signalling discipline with regards to the workload.
 

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A signalman on the very heavily trafficed Aberystwyth to Carmarthen line - at Llanilar - had plenty of time to tend to his adjacent rural small holding.

Another signalman up the Valleys - who was a Lay Preacher , wrote and practised his sermons for the coming Sunday.

Certainly - "hobbies" - some of them easily carried out were common - making Children's wooden toys , models of ships etc.
 

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On a number of the quieter branch lines the signal boxes were manned by 'porter/signalmen' who only went to the box when trains were expected. The rest of the time they did general portering work round the station. There was one box, I think on the station platform, where the signalman also sold tickets to passengers, but the location escapes me.
 

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On a number of the quieter branch lines the signal boxes were manned by 'porter/signalmen' who only went to the box when trains were expected. The rest of the time they did general portering work round the station. There was one box, I think on the station platform, where the signalman also sold tickets to passengers, but the location escapes me.
Waddon Marsh - and later , officially and to good effect - Templecombe
 

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On a number of the quieter branch lines the signal boxes were manned by 'porter/signalmen' who only went to the box when trains were expected. The rest of the time they did general portering work round the station. There was one box, I think on the station platform, where the signalman also sold tickets to passengers, but the location escapes me.
There were many such locations but I think the last ticket office open in a signalbox was Templecombe (which of course back in the day was a main line station :D). However it was also unusual in that the arrangement there only dated to 1983, when the station reopened. New buildings have of course since opened on the other side of the station.
 

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On a number of the quieter branch lines the signal boxes were manned by 'porter/signalmen' who only went to the box when trains were expected. The rest of the time they did general portering work round the station. There was one box, I think on the station platform, where the signalman also sold tickets to passengers, but the location escapes me.

I am almost certain Rufford signalman used to have a PORTIS (same as guards had) in the box for selling tickets when I was a kid, though I doubt many were sold. This stopped I think when separation of duties started for privatisation.

My even vaguer recollection is that they were sold from the now plated over window in the middle of the box:

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Rufford station, "Chris1193"/Creative Commons

I even more vaguely seem to recall a chalked/marker pen message on that window saying "no tickets, buy on board" being there once sale stopped.
 
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As I understand it, most quiet, branch-line signalboxes were (are) equipped with a shabby, but comfortable second-hand armchair, placed conveniently close to the stove.

Armchairs, sofas etc.. were removed from signalboxes in the late 1990s in a great purge when there was a big panic about fire safety standards and the company provided office type seats from then on. A few boxes have managed against the odds to hold on to comfy armchairs since then but the vast, vast majority were got rid of, never to return. Also the number of signalboxes retaining a working stove or fireplace today is into single figures.

Read a book or the newspaper?

Not allowed to watch TV though. Is/was radio allowed? I guess not as it might stop bells being heard?
Radios were completely forbidden until about 2009 when the Network Rail chief executive of the day, Ian Coucher, visited a signalbox and asked the signaller what the cricket test match score was. The signaller was unable to tell him because he wasn’t allowed to listen to the match and Coucher asserted that the situation with radios was ridiculous. He instructed the chief signalling inspector to lift the ban and so, subject to certain conditions, radios are now allowed in signalboxes. One of the conditions is that the box is Grade 3 or under and deals with no more than 2 trains per hour. So in reality there aren’t too many places that actually benefit from the relaxation.
 
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I remember a story, perhaps apocryphal, of a signalbox where the linesmen complained the the batteries needed replacement more frequently than normal, nothing to do with the use of a soldering iron in the small hours. (Days before mains electricity)
 

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Littleham, I think had a ticket office "added" to the signal box at one point I think so they could cut back staff to just signaller prior to closure a few years later.
 

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Radios were common in my day and management tended to look the other way as long as you weren’t silly. TVs were a different matter, although some people did have portables. At one mainline box a signalman even got a licence for a TV giving the box as the address, which caused some minor problems when he moved on and didn’t change the address. I think the feeling was that you could concentrate on your work with a radio on in the background, but a TV would take up too large a proportion of your attention.

A hundred years ago or so nothing was allowed except official publications: you should be familiarising yourself with them whenever possible. Then the newspaper became tolerated and it spread to books and magazines. You could sometimes make the odd, possibly unfair, judgements about the signalmen at a particular box by which boxes had a stash of girlie magazines: at least one relief signalman made himself unpopular by destroying any he found as he disapproved of them. (Yes, he did destroy them, not take them home.)

Again, in olden days, it was not uncommon for signalmen, who were literate, doing some odd bits of semi-clerical work between trains. This could be filling out wagon labels, doing the stores requisition, filling in wagon returns, etc. Technically this was the station master’s or clerk’s responsibility, but they might be glad of having a few odd jobs done by somebody else, or the responsibility of one of porters, who might be barely literate. Lamps were sometimes down as the signalman’s responsibility, but on other occasions they might do them, although it might be the staff who actually took them out to the signal. And of course there was the habit of keeping the box highly polished.

The above paragraph is a bit idealised. There would be boxes where the station master would rigidly insist on absolute adherence to the rules, sometimes as how he interpreted them, and bring down the full weight of the railway disciplinary procedures on the tiniest infraction. And there would be signalmen who would only do exactly what was in their contract and wouldn’t lift a finger to help or just sat on the chair looking at the block instruments all through the shift.

A story from long before my time. At one station the staff had been trying to push a trolley up the end ramp of the platform when it ran back and spread itself and its load all over the track, with the result that a major express had to wait while the trolley and contents were removed. The signal box was right by the platform end, but the signalman just watched the staff struggling and made not a move to add his weight.
 

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The tales here of sleepy boxes and the very busy ones. Were some signalmen, unsuited to the mental gymnastics in a busy box, would be sent to some sinecure where he could not make errors?
 

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In 1967 during the course of a brakevan trip over the Settle&Carlisle the train was looped at Blea Moor where the loco crew was booked to change over with a southbound working. As the southbound train was an hour late the crew took us over to the signal box where the signalman demonstrated the art of making fishing flies. He apparently had a flourishing mail order business!
 

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I am almost certain Rufford signalman used to have a PORTIS (same as guards had) in the box for selling tickets when I was a kid, though I doubt many were sold. This stopped I think when separation of duties started for privatisation.

My even vaguer recollection is that they were sold from the now plated over window in the middle of the box:

I even more vaguely seem to recall a chalked/marker pen message on that window saying "no tickets, buy on board" being there once sale stopped.

The sign was stencilled on an A3 sheet and affixed to a board by one of the now long since moved on signallers, it then got covered over by a printed version of the same sign. It's still there but turned around and currently has "urgent" (there's a poster for a lost cat that's been in there for years now) village related notices on it, usually at the behest of the volunteers that maintain the flower beds. The signallers themselves can often be seen conversing with regular passengers and the station volunteers in between trains if the weather isn't too bad.

To answer the OP's question from a modern standpoint, I tend to pass the time by reading, studying for the next of my assessments or getting paperwork straightened up for any planned line blockages/possessions. There's also cleaning to be done but some are more proactive at that than others. I'm allowed a radio but I tend only to use it during cricket season.
 

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In 1967 during the course of a brakevan trip over the Settle&Carlisle the train was looped at Blea Moor where the loco crew was booked to change over with a southbound working. As the southbound train was an hour late the crew took us over to the signal box where the signalman demonstrated the art of making fishing flies. He apparently had a flourishing mail order business!
I used to work with a signalman who made really beautiful flies but would also spend an entire shift every so often melting lead on the Baby Belling cooker to make sinkers, which his colleagues didn’t find quite so charming.
 

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Is it Collingham or Swinderby station which still has a working signal box? One wonders what the signalman does in that box in between trains, surely there's only so much radio somebody can listen to before it starts to irritate them!
 

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The tales here of sleepy boxes and the very busy ones. Were some signalmen, unsuited to the mental gymnastics in a busy box, would be sent to some sinecure where he could not make errors?

My understanding (from reading various memoirs rather than personal experience) is that a signalman would have to apply for a promotion to a job at a higher grade signalbox, and would have to pass a test or two to be confirmed there, so presume not too many who were really not suited to a busier box would have got there.

But I would expect there must have been some sort of process for signalmen who didn't cope with their new grade. From what I have read, it sounds as though the railways were inclined to 're-grade' than just dismiss people - I can't remember the detail, but have read somewhere of a signalman who was (at least in part) to blame for a serious accident that resulted in him serving a prison sentence for manslaughter, who was re-employed as a lamp-man on his release.

I've also read somewhere else that on the Southern, signalmen at the busiest central London boxes were, on reaching a certain age and / or length of service, were allowed to transfer to somewhere suburban, but retain their previous pay grade.
 

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My understanding (from reading various memoirs rather than personal experience) is that a signalman would have to apply for a promotion to a job at a higher grade signalbox, and would have to pass a test or two to be confirmed there, so presume not too many who were really not suited to a busier box would have got there.
Tests didn’t come in until the late ‘80s. Until relatively recently signalmen were promoted based only on seniority, so occasionally unsuitable candidates did end up in boxes far beyond their ability just on the basis of being the senior man when applying for a job. This was especially true when large power signalboxes took out lots of little ones in resignalling schemes, where some displaced old hands with decades of service in one small uncomplicated box suddenly had to adapt to an entirely new way of working with very little in the way of training or support. It’s surprising how well most of them actually got on given the circumstances.

But I would expect there must have been some sort of process for signalmen who didn't cope with their new grade. From what I have read, it sounds as though the railways were inclined to 're-grade' than just dismiss people - I can't remember the detail, but have read somewhere of a signalman who was (at least in part) to blame for a serious accident that resulted in him serving a prison sentence for manslaughter, who was re-employed as a lamp-man on his release.
That was signalman James Tinsley who was convicted for his part in the Quintinshill collision. He served 12 months of a 3 year sentence of penal servitude at Peterhead Prison (where he worked on the prison railway) before returning to the Caledonian Railway as a lamp man at Carlisle. His colleague George Meakin was sentenced to 18 months inprisonment before reentering railway service as a goods guard, eventually being made redundant in the 1930s.
 

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A signalman on the very heavily trafficed Aberystwyth to Carmarthen line - at Llanilar - had plenty of time to tend to his adjacent rural small holding.

Another signalman up the Valleys - who was a Lay Preacher , wrote and practised his sermons for the coming Sunday.

Certainly - "hobbies" - some of them easily carried out were common - making Children's wooden toys , models of ships etc.
The platform at Penmaenmawr (it may have been Llanfairfechan) featured hand carved animal figures in the 1960s.

I assume they were the work of a skilled staff member.
 

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Tickets being sold from signal boxes seems to have been a particularly Southern practice. Milborne Port and, I think, Amberley were others, and there may have been a couple beyond Exeter.

Promotion was for long based entirely on seniority, but if someone applied for a job that might be beyond them the Inspector or a local manager might have a quiet chat with them. He could then withdraw his application and stay in his existing job before it was advertised. But it is always difficult to be sure whether someone will rise to the occasion or not and it was entirely his choice. If someone did apply for a job and then failed to pass out, they would probably be accommodated where there was a convenient vacancy: there was no guarantee of getting their old job back as that might have gone to someone else. I think that they would also have to take the rate for the job they took, even if it was lower than their old rate.

I think the London & South Western Railway had an agreement that signalmen at Waterloo, and possibly the section in from Clapham Junction, could drop down to smaller boxes elsewhere on the system. To qualify required them to have reached something like sixty and have spent a certain number of years in the relevant posts. I am not sure if they kept their rate of pay, but at least they kept their job.
 
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If a station had Ladies and Gents toilets they would have to be kept clean, likewise the staff toilet. Would the lowest-ranking station employee have to see to them?
 

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Tickets being sold from signal boxes seems to have been a particularly Southern practice. Milborne Port and, I think, Amberley were others, and there may have been a couple beyond Exeter......
I can confirm that Amberley Box did sell tickets. It closed in March 2014.
 
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