GwR HSTs to be stood down

[DBS92042]

Not heard this one but Mr Clinnick is reporting that 43170 has been stood down

Indeed, its last day in service was 20/05/23.

I now have the following all stood down (date of the last known day in service in brackets):
43005 (24/02/2023)
43022 (21/01/2023)
43041 (15/08/2022)
43088 (08/05/2023)
43158 (11/05/2023)
43160 (18/02/2023)
43170 (20/05/2023)
43171 (18/11/2022)

 

[winsaw]

The weekday Castle diagrams , 4 are only until 8 September

Diagram 1
2C09 0650 Bristol TM Penzance
2P13 1150 Penzance Plymouth
2C27 1418 Plymouth Penzance
2U32 1650 Penzance Cardiff
2C96 2230 Cardiff Bristol

Diagram 2 (until 8 September)
2C61 0500 Bristol TM Taunton
2U04 0611 Taunton Cardiff
2C69 0900 Cardiff Penzance
2P20 1515 Penzance Plymouth

Diagram 3
2C11 1015 Plymouth Penzance
2U24 1250 Penzance Cardiff
2C89 1900 Cardiff Plymouth

Diagram 4 (until 8 September)
2C00 0533 Plymouth Penzance
2U14 0740 Penzance Cardiff
2C79 1400 Cardiff Penzance

Diagram 5 (until 8 September)
2U10 0540 Penzance Cardiff
2C75 1200 Cardiff Taunton
2U22 1513 Taunton Cardiff
2C87 1800 Cardiff Penzance

Diagram 6 (until 8 September)
2U12 0640 Penzance Cardiff
2C77 1300 Cardiff Penzance
2M77 1915 Penzance Bristol TM

Diagram 7
2C05 0540 Bristol TM Penzance
2U20 1050 Penzance Cardiff
2C85 1700 Cardiff Taunton
2U30 1914 Taunton Cardiff
2C95 2200 Cardiff Bristol TM

Sunday Castle diagrams all until 10 September only

Diagram 1
2C69 1000 Bristol TM Penzance
2E19 1450 Penzance Exeter St Davids
2C38 1820 Exeter St Davids Penzance

Diagram 2
2P09 0949 Penzance Plymouth
2C26 1339 Plymouth Penzance
2P21 1547 Penzance Plymouth

Diagram 3
2U20 1050 Penzance Cardiff
2C85 1700 Cardiff Taunton
2M69 1926 Taunton Bristol TM
5M69 2030 Bristol TM Bristol PM

Diagram 4
2U14 0947 Plymouth Cardiff
2C79 1400 Cardiff Penzance

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

The weekday Castle diagrams , 4 are only until 8 September

Diagram 1
2C09 0650 Bristol TM Penzance
2P13 1150 Penzance Plymouth
2C27 1418 Plymouth Penzance
2U32 1650 Penzance Cardiff
2C96 2230 Cardiff Bristol

Diagram 2 (until 8 September)
2C61 0500 Bristol TM Taunton
2U04 0611 Taunton Cardiff
2C69 0900 Cardiff Penzance
2P20 1515 Penzance Plymouth

Diagram 3
2C11 1015 Plymouth Penzance
2U24 1250 Penzance Cardiff
2C89 1900 Cardiff Plymouth

Diagram 4 (until 8 September)
2C00 0533 Plymouth Penzance
2U14 0740 Penzance Cardiff
2C79 1400 Cardiff Penzance

Diagram 5 (until 8 September)
2U10 0540 Penzance Cardiff
2C75 1200 Cardiff Taunton
2U22 1513 Taunton Cardiff
2C87 1800 Cardiff Penzance

Diagram 6 (until 8 September)
2U12 0640 Penzance Cardiff
2C77 1300 Cardiff Penzance
2M77 1915 Penzance Bristol TM

Diagram 7
2C05 0540 Bristol TM Penzance
2U20 1050 Penzance Cardiff
2C85 1700 Cardiff Taunton
2U30 1914 Taunton Cardiff
2C95 2200 Cardiff Bristol TM

Sunday Castle diagrams all until 17 September only

Diagram 1
2C69 1000 Bristol TM Penzance
2E19 1450 Penzance Exeter St Davids
2C38 1820 Exeter St Davids Penzance

Diagram 2
2P09 0949 Penzance Plymouth
2C26 1339 Plymouth Penzance
2P21 1547 Penzance Plymouth

Diagram 3
2U20 1050 Penzance Cardiff
2C85 1700 Cardiff Taunton
2M69 1926 Taunton Bristol TM
5M69 2030 Bristol TM Bristol PM

Diagram 4
2U14 0947 Plymouth Cardiff
2C79 1400 Cardiff Penzance

Does this mean they’ll stop having booked work on Sundays from September, or just that the diagrams will change?

 

[43102EMR]

The weekday Castle diagrams , 4 are only until 8 September

Diagram 1
2C09 0650 Bristol TM Penzance
2P13 1150 Penzance Plymouth
2C27 1418 Plymouth Penzance
2U32 1650 Penzance Cardiff
2C96 2230 Cardiff Bristol

Diagram 2 (until 8 September)
2C61 0500 Bristol TM Taunton
2U04 0611 Taunton Cardiff
2C69 0900 Cardiff Penzance
2P20 1515 Penzance Plymouth

Diagram 3
2C11 1015 Plymouth Penzance
2U24 1250 Penzance Cardiff
2C89 1900 Cardiff Plymouth

Diagram 4 (until 8 September)
2C00 0533 Plymouth Penzance
2U14 0740 Penzance Cardiff
2C79 1400 Cardiff Penzance

Diagram 5 (until 8 September)
2U10 0540 Penzance Cardiff
2C75 1200 Cardiff Taunton
2U22 1513 Taunton Cardiff
2C87 1800 Cardiff Penzance

Diagram 6 (until 8 September)
2U12 0640 Penzance Cardiff
2C77 1300 Cardiff Penzance
2M77 1915 Penzance Bristol TM

Diagram 7
2C05 0540 Bristol TM Penzance
2U20 1050 Penzance Cardiff
2C85 1700 Cardiff Taunton
2U30 1914 Taunton Cardiff
2C95 2200 Cardiff Bristol TM

Sunday Castle diagrams all until 17 September only

Diagram 1
2C69 1000 Bristol TM Penzance
2E19 1450 Penzance Exeter St Davids
2C38 1820 Exeter St Davids Penzance

Diagram 2
2P09 0949 Penzance Plymouth
2C26 1339 Plymouth Penzance
2P21 1547 Penzance Plymouth

Diagram 3
2U20 1050 Penzance Cardiff
2C85 1700 Cardiff Taunton
2M69 1926 Taunton Bristol TM
5M69 2030 Bristol TM Bristol PM

Diagram 4
2U14 0947 Plymouth Cardiff
2C79 1400 Cardiff Penzance

Are the Saturday diagrams the same as the weekday ones?

 

[winsaw]

Does this mean they’ll stop having booked work on Sundays from September, or just that the diagrams will change?

Looks like no booked Sunday work as the 4 HST turns are shown as going over to IET on 17 September

Are the Saturday diagrams the same as the weekday ones?

I haven't got Saturday yet will post up once I have

 

[43102EMR]

I haven't got Saturday yet will post up once I have

No worries, many thanks!

 

[buckett]

Indeed, its last day in service was 20/05/23.

I now have the following all stood down (date of the last known day in service in brackets):
43005 (24/02/2023)
43022 (21/01/2023)
43041 (15/08/2022)
43088 (08/05/2023)
43158 (11/05/2023)
43160 (18/02/2023)
43170 (20/05/2023)
43171 (18/11/2022)

Any idea where these power cars are currently located? Especially43005 43022 43158 43171

 

[DBS92042]

Any idea where these power cars are currently located? Especially43005 43022 43158 43171

All are currently stored at Laira T&RSMD although I'm not sure if any are visible from public vantage points

 

[buckett]

All are currently stored at Laira T&RSMD although I'm not sure if any are visible from public vantage points

Thank you

 

[winsaw]

Saturday castle turns

Diagram 1 (until 9 September)
2C65 0725 Bristol TM Exeter St Davids
2U14 1043 Exeter St Davids Cardiff
2C79 1400 Cardiff Penzance

Diagram 2
2U00 0628 Bristol TM Cardiff
2C67 0800 Cardiff Penzance
2U26 1350 Penzance Cardiff
2C91 1954 Cardiff Bristol TM

Diagram 3 (until 9 September)
2C45 0755 Bristol TM Penzance
2U24 1250 Penzance Cardiff
2C89 1900 Cardiff Taunton
2M78 2126 Taunton Bristol TM

Diagram 4
2E10 0740 Penzance Exeter St Davids
2C22 1221 Exeter St Davids Penzance
2M72 1550 Penzance Bristol TM

Diagram 5 (until 9 September)
2U10 0540 Penzance Cardiff
2C75 1200 Cardiff Taunton
2U22 1522 Taunton Cardiff
2C87 1800 Cardiff Plymouth

Diagram 6 (until 9 September)
2U12 0640 Penzance Cardiff
2C77 1300 Cardiff Penzance
2P95 1930 Penzance Plymouth

Diagram 7 (until 9 September)
ECS from Laira
2U08 0819 Taunton Cardiff
2C73 1100 Cardiff Penzance
2P28 1715 Penzance Plymouth
2C51 1927 Plymouth Penzance

 

[The exile]

Saturday castle turns

Diagram 1 (until 9 September)
2C65 0725 Bristol TM Exeter St Davids
2U14 1043 Exeter St Davids Cardiff
2C79 1400 Cardiff Penzance

Diagram 2
2U00 0628 Bristol TM Cardiff
2C67 0800 Cardiff Penzance
2U26 1350 Penzance Cardiff
2C91 1954 Cardiff Bristol TM

Diagram 3 (until 9 September)
2C45 0755 Bristol TM Penzance
2U24 1250 Penzance Cardiff
2C89 1900 Cardiff Taunton
2M78 2126 Taunton Bristol TM

Diagram 4
2E10 0740 Penzance Exeter St Davids
2C22 1221 Exeter St Davids Penzance
2M72 1550 Penzance Bristol TM

Diagram 5 (until 9 September)
2U10 0540 Penzance Cardiff
2C75 1200 Cardiff Taunton
2U22 1522 Taunton Cardiff
2C87 1800 Cardiff Plymouth

Diagram 6 (until 9 September)
2U12 0640 Penzance Cardiff
2C77 1300 Cardiff Penzance
2P95 1930 Penzance Plymouth

Diagram 7 (until 9 September)
ECS from Laira
2U08 0819 Taunton Cardiff
2C73 1100 Cardiff Penzance
2P28 1715 Penzance Plymouth
2C51 1927 Plymouth Penzance

Yesterday’s appearances on Worcester-Bristol runs were presumably therefore an emergency substitute. Struck lucky for once!

 

[fgwrich]

Yesterday’s appearances on Worcester-Bristol runs were presumably therefore an emergency substitute. Struck lucky for once!

Indeed, covering for another broken.. unit.

 

[Jobbenar]

All are currently stored at Laira T&RSMD although I'm not sure if any are visible from public vantage points

I'm off to Plymouth for a week in July, was hoping to see 43005 as its 1 of my last 2 power cars (other on Scotrail). Does anyone know the best place to get a view of Laira depot? I've got a 300mm zoom so don't have to be too close

 

[170UTD]

Looks like some of the Angel Trains power cars are going to storage

Realtime Trains | 5L46 0957 Laira T.& R.S.M.D. to Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings | 08/06/2023

Real-time train running information for 5L46 0957 departure from Laira T.& R.S.M.D. to Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings on 08/06/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

 

[fgwrich]

Looks like some of the Angel Trains power cars are going to storage

Realtime Trains | 5L46 0957 Laira T.& R.S.M.D. to Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings | 08/06/2023

Real-time train running information for 5L46 0957 departure from Laira T.& R.S.M.D. to Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings on 08/06/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Correct, expected to be 022 + 1 set + 37510.

 

[50002Superb]

Correct, expected to be 022 + 1 set + 37510.

Interesting, thank you.

I had understood that 022 had been used for spares so did wonder if it would be under its own power when I saw your original post but that now makes sense.

Any idea which set is on the move as well please?

 

[REVUpminster]

43029/32 did the Torbay Airshow Sunday, Paignton-Newton Abbot shuttle and lastly to Exeter. It came and returned from Bristol.

 

[43096]

43029/32 did the Torbay Airshow Sunday, Paignton-Newton Abbot shuttle and lastly to Exeter. It came and returned from Bristol.

43042, not 032.

 

[adc82140]

It's been well documented on here which power cars have gone off lease. How many coaching stock sets are stood down, and which ones?

 

[Suraggu]

Correct, expected to be 022 + 1 set + 37510.

43170, 48815, 48125 & 49107 according to TOPS.

 

[St. Paddy]

43170, 48815, 48125 & 49107 according to TOPS.

A typo I think. 48115, not 48815

 

[Ashley Hill]

There were a couple of Castle power cars on LA last night minus their nameplates. To dark to see which ones.

 

[irish_rail]

There were a couple of Castle power cars on LA last night minus their nameplates. To dark to see which ones.

170 and 171 definitely both denamed. 170 was the one that left Laira today for a retirement in the east.

 

[John Luxton]

There were a couple of Castle power cars on LA last night minus their nameplates. To dark to see which ones.

Are they going to sell off the name plates?

Given the short life of the Castle units it appeared rather strange that they go to the trouble of naming them. I think most enthusiasts appreciated it though and I dare say some might like the chance of buying a plate providing they are not at silly prices.

 

[Ashley Hill]

In the past GWR have sold off plates through GWRA auctions. Whether this will happen with the Castles I don’t know.

 

[michael74]

In the past GWR have sold off plates through GWRA auctions. Whether this will happen with the Castles I don’t know.

I am (almost) certain one was auctioned off last year, we got an email from one of the Guards managers asking us to propose some charities.

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

So I have 43004, 009, 010, 016, 020, 023, 027, 029, 040, 042, 063, 086, 092-094, 097, 098, 122, 153-156, 162, 172, 186-192, 194, 198 as still operated by GWR. Is this correct?

 

[43096]

So I have 43004, 009, 010, 016, 020, 023, 027, 029, 040, 042, 063, 086, 092-094, 097, 098, 122, 153-156, 162, 172, 186-192, 194, 198 as still operated by GWR. Is this correct?

Nope: there’s some power cars on there that have been stored for a few years and in some cases gone for scrap. Current fleet is: 004/009/010/016/027/029/040/042/092-094/097/098/122/153-156/162/172/186-189/192/194/198.

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

Nope: there’s some power cars on there that have been stored for a few years and in some cases gone for scrap. Current fleet is: 004/009/010/016/027/029/040/042/092-094/097/098/122/153-156/162/172/186-189/192/194/198.

Great thanks

 

[50002Superb]

Hi, is anyone able to confirm which carriages currently make up sets GW01, GW02 and GW04 please?

Also I believe GW01 is now stored but wasn’t the one sent to Ely this week, is it at Laira and, if so, is it visible from a public place?