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Citybreak1

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I am due to go to Paris in August I rearranged this from February after a rail strike. Seems alot of strikes and trouble due to the pension age rise does anybody see it being sorted by then or should I be looking at cancelling again?
 
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Macron has outlived the No Confidence vote, but it's anyone's guess if it'll continue through the Summer. But by then, they'll probably be striking over something else.
 

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I think there will be a resolution one way or another before August.

There doesn't tend to be a lot of strikes in France during July and August, as that is when everyone goes on holiday, and the summer holidays in France are sacrosanct.

After La Rentree in September, normal services, including strikes, tends to resume.
 

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The rail strikes are still ongoing but haven't had a huge effect on Eurostar, the Metro is normal but Regional services are affected (and Grandes Lignes) though seems not to be as bad as it was. Not sure about refuse collection :(
 

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As someone who has often been affected by Frensh strikes, a few words, what travelling is like in such a situation: Participation in the strikes varies from day to day and so does the service offering. Around 5pm the SNCF put the schedules for the next day online. What is listed there, will run.

On a bad day only about 1 in 3 or 1 in 5 TGVs will run. Between large cities (like Paris-Lyon or Paris-Marseille), there is some basic service. Usually, the TGV Intersecteur (or province-province) e.g. like Rennes-Strasbourg are mostly cancelled, Same holds for service than only run once or twice a day. The few Intercite trains left, are mostly cancelled too: The night trains for sure and most of the day trains as well.

The TER services will mostly serve the commuter times in the morning and late afternoon. Low volume line see no service at all. Some regions offer bus replacement service, but I would not count on that. In the afternoon the schedules for the next day are available on the TER websites of the different regions.

If your TGV is cancelled, you can rebook to another train. You will need a new reservation for this train (as most big stations have automated gates now, there is no way around a reservation). You must be flexible concerning the departure time.The SNCF allows some "overbooking" in such situations. I remember that one time I sat on a folding seat in the TGV coach vestibule from Rennes to Paris - but this got me to Paris in time to catch the last connecting service to Germany that ran that day. Instead of early afternoon, I left mid morning: The half vaction day lost was well spent, because I got home :).

To sum this up: The SNCF has a lot of experience wiht strikes and does the best it can to get as much people as possible to their destinations.

In Paris some level of Metro and RER service usually runs as well. The RATP website will give the details, which service level to expect for the day. The automated lines 1 and 14 tend to run a full service.

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Thanks for the info above.

So if your TGV is cancelled, do you just get a refund and have no 'advantage' over other passengers if you want to travel on one of the subsequent trains for the same route, the next day?

I plan to travel from Paris to the south of France on a Saturday evening in a couple of weeks - I'm wondering if there would be any advantage to advance-purchasing tickets for the same route for the Sunday and Monday, as 'backups', and then cancelling them if the Saturday journey is successful (taking the €19 cancellation fees on the chin)... it's fairly vital to the rest of my holiday plans that I get to Barcelona by the Monday night!

It would be galling if my Saturday train were cancelled, but trains were running on the Sunday and I couldn't get on them as they're already full, or there are only expensive first-class tickets available...
 

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So if your TGV is cancelled, do you just get a refund and have no 'advantage' over other passengers if you want to travel on one of the subsequent trains for the same route, the next day?
You should only request a refund if you don't want to travel anymore.
If you still want to travel, they you should not get a refund but rather a free exchange to another available train. In such a case, available quota (e.g. for pass holders) must be ignored; any free seat will do.
 

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Charles has just postponed the Paris city break that he had planned for next Monday, but you should be fine in August!
 

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What’s the situation like in France now? I have booked Brussels for August instead. I am wondering if it’s worth going atall this year? I seen some videos online even protests in Lille shopping mall.
 

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I'm travelling from London to Bordeaux on 16 June - E* to Paris Nord and TGV from Montparnasse - and back on 19 June. Fingers crossed to avoid further strikes!

THC
 

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Anybody been recently? What’s changes of running into a protest as I would rather delay going? No sign of a resolution?
 

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Anybody been recently? What’s changes of running into a protest as I would rather delay going? No sign of a resolution?
Several people have pointed out that going in July / August carries a lower risk as, apparently, "...the French summer holiday is sacrosant and unlikely to be disrupted..."

It seems the best available advice - and I'm taking it myself; I've got a trip booked for August...
 

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I was in Paris a month ago. Very heavy police presence but didn't see any protests or disruption. Did the touristy stuff i planned and felt safe throughout.
 

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So on non strike days I assume it’s normal? I seen protests in Lille walking through malls on social media. But yes if it’s fine I can go. That’s why I was looking at august.
 

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The French usually never strike from weekend before Bastille day (14th July) to late August, it is the period of Grand Vacance (big holidays), no one would notice as lots of businesses in cities are virtually shut for 2-3 weeks anyway.
 

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The French usually never strike from weekend before Bastille day (14th July) to late August, it is the period of Grand Vacance (big holidays), no one would notice as lots of businesses in cities are virtually shut for 2-3 weeks anyway.

And the strikers will want to go on holiday as well.;)
 

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Anybody been recently? What’s changes of running into a protest as I would rather delay going? No sign of a resolution?

Back this evening from a 16-day rail-based holiday in France (self-arranged, not an organised tour).

Itinerary:
  • St Pancras --> Lille
  • Lille --> Avignon
  • Day trip Avignon <--> Arles
  • Avignon --> Bandol
  • Day trip Bandol <--> Aix-en-Provence
  • Bandol --> Nice
  • Day trip Nice <--> St Andre des Alpes
  • Day trip Nice <--> Menton
  • Nice --> Lyon
  • Lyon --> Lille
  • Lille --> St Pancras
No sign of any protests, no disruption to any of the above journeys. But note we did not travel via Paris ...
 

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Back this evening from a 16-day rail-based holiday in France (self-arranged, not an organised tour).

Itinerary:
  • St Pancras --> Lille
  • Lille --> Avignon
  • Day trip Avignon <--> Arles
  • Avignon --> Bandol
  • Day trip Bandol <--> Aix-en-Provence
  • Bandol --> Nice
  • Day trip Nice <--> St Andre des Alpes
  • Day trip Nice <--> Menton
  • Nice --> Lyon
  • Lyon --> Lille
  • Lille --> St Pancras
No sign of any protests, no disruption to any of the above journeys. But note we did not travel via Paris ...
Out of interest, what ticketing did you use across the 16 days?
 

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Out of interest, what ticketing did you use across the 16 days?
Multiple tickets mostly bought in advance via SNCF website.
Possibly not the most cost-effective but my travelling companion and I both qualify for the "old ladies" discount!
I've InterRailed in the past when I've done solo trips but for some reason friends are unenthusiastic about this method.
Hotel costs were more alarming than the train tickets!
 

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Multiple tickets mostly bought in advance via SNCF website.
Possibly not the most cost-effective but my travelling companion and I both qualify for the "old ladies" discount!
I've InterRailed in the past when I've done solo trips but for some reason friends are unenthusiastic about this method.
Not brilliant for France anyway because you still have to pay for reservations :(
Hotel costs were more alarming than the train tickets!
My impression is that accommodation costs in mainland Europe have risen sharply in the last couple of years.
 

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But in lots of places they still seem good value compared to Britain!
I've got €90.01 / night in Paris for August this year. A similarly located hotel of equivalent quality in the UK would likely cost double that outside the main holiday season...
 

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Isn’t August in Paris the “dead” season? Not for tourists of course - but for business etc.
I've got €90.01 / night in Paris for August this year. A similarly located hotel of equivalent quality in the UK would likely cost double that outside the main holiday
 

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Im glad I delayed my trip to 2024. Was France always like this? I remember some unrest a few years ago but never this much?
 

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Im glad I delayed my trip to 2024. Was France always like this? I remember some unrest a few years ago but never this much?
Historically - yes. One of the reasons the grand boulevards were created by Haussmann in the 19th century was because they are much harder to barricade than mediaeval streets.
 

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Historically - yes. One of the reasons the grand boulevards were created by Haussmann in the 19th century was because they are much harder to barricade than mediaeval streets.

…and it was also easier for cavalry to charge down them.
 

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A tram on line T6 suffered an attack on Thursday at the station Georges-Pompidou and appears to have been largely destroyed - pictures here.
 
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