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Class 701 'Aventra' trains for South Western Railway: progress updates

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If its of any interest, 701516 and 517 are currently sat in platform 6 at Waterloo this evening. Seats all covered in rock rail seat covers and all doors appear to have an "Alstom, do not board, train in testing sign".
On RTT as 5Q43 at 21:13:30 left Waterloo for Eastleigh
 

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I am fairly new to RailUKforums and so am still finding my way around and had not seen this thread earlier. So on July 14th this year 2023 I photographed 701 054 which stopped briefly at Eastleigh and was apparently on test. As my photo shows, it was in SWR livery and badged as an 'Arterio'. The cab access doors were open when I arrived at that end of platform 2 and there were about 4 staff standing inside talking, one of them was a woman whom I think was in uniform. I thought the train's overall appearance was very attractive and smart.

ARTERIO ON TEST by Robin Procter, on Flickr
 
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I am fairly new to RailUKforums and so am still finding my way around and had not seen this thread earlier. So on July 14th this year 2023 I photographed 701 054 which stopped briefly at Eastleigh and was apparently on test. As my photo shows, it was in SWR livery and badged as an 'Arterio'. The cab access doors were open when I arrived at that end of platform 2 and there were about 4 staff standing inside talking, one of them was a woman whom I think was in uniform. I thought the train's overall appearance was very attractive and smart.

ARTERIO ON TEST by Robin Procter, on Flickr
Nice shot, Robin! Any photo of these things running on rails is a collectors item at the moment :D
 

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Nice shot, Robin! Any photo of these things running on rails is a collectors item at the moment :D
.... :lol: Thanks. That was captured at ~13:30 and this photo below at ~14:30, July 14th 2023.

ARTERIO ON TEST by Robin Procter, on Flickr

Great capture, Robin. I've only seen them stored at MoD Marchwood, or being towed to Eastleigh
.... Photos below of Class701 units being towed into Eastleigh by Class47 727 'Edinburgh Castle' at ~13:30 on July 14th.

A CLASS 47 HEADS CLASS 701 UNITS INTO EASTLEIGH by Robin Procter, on Flickr

Class47 727 'Edinburgh Castle' & Class701_OMD10874 @ by Robin Procter, on Flickr
 
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Great stuff, Robin. 47727 was at the head of 701 029 on the Portsmouth Direct Line, in May - photo is at the top of this thread:
 

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701037 providing some split training at Wombledon by the looks. Country-facing half visible outside the sheds @0956.
 

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519/517 out and about today - just went through Woking.

Will no doubt be seeing it head back to London in an hour or so.
 

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I've noticed some animated adverts online on Instagram for South Western Railways are showing Class 701 trains. I wonder if that is a sign that they are confident about getting them into service soon? Or maybe the advert was commissioned a while ago (especially as it was computer animated) and they're hoping the average customer won't notice when instead they're actually on a knackered 458?
 

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I've noticed some animated adverts online on Instagram for South Western Railways are showing Class 701 trains. I wonder if that is a sign that they are confident about getting them into service soon? Or maybe the advert was commissioned a while ago (especially as it was computer animated) and they're hoping the average customer won't notice when instead they're actually on a knackered 458?
If it's the pigeon advert, it's been on and off TV/online for about 18 months! I remember pointing out to someone last year that the trains featured in it weren't actually in service... Plus ca change, as they say
 

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I've noticed some animated adverts online on Instagram for South Western Railways are showing Class 701 trains. I wonder if that is a sign that they are confident about getting them into service soon? Or maybe the advert was commissioned a while ago (especially as it was computer animated) and they're hoping the average customer won't notice when instead they're actually on a knackered 458?
They've been using that set of ads for the past couple of years. I doubt if the average passenger would notice what it's supposed to be.
 

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I've noticed some animated adverts online on Instagram for South Western Railways are showing Class 701 trains. I wonder if that is a sign that they are confident about getting them into service soon? Or maybe the advert was commissioned a while ago (especially as it was computer animated) and they're hoping the average customer won't notice when instead they're actually on a knackered 458 Rail Replacement Bus ?
There, corrected for you ;).

I actually think the 458s could well be gone before passengers set foot on a 701.
 

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I've noticed some animated adverts online on Instagram for South Western Railways are showing Class 701 trains. [...]

The Class 701s have been running out of Waterloo since at least October 2019... October 2019 was when I visited Legoland Windsor.

Not my photo, but you can see it here:

It replaced the Class 450, again not my photo:
 

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The Class 701s have been running out of Waterloo since at least October 2019... October 2019 was when I visited Legoland Windsor.

Not my photo, but you can see it here:

It replaced the Class 450, again not my photo:
Tweet from Richard clinnick below, first 701 launched to press November 2019!

 

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Tweet from Richard clinnick below, first 701 launched to press November 2019!

Yes nearly 4 years ago.

But as has been said many times first one in service was originally Autumn 2019, there was a table of dates in the franchise (now removed), but was third in service by about March 2020 (covid outbreak), about 70% after school summer holidays, and all 750 vehicles in service by December 2020 timetable change.

Some of the lower numbered ones rolled off production line 4.5 years ago.
 

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Yes nearly 4 years ago.

But as has been said many times first one in service was originally Autumn 2019, there was a table of dates in the franchise (now removed), but was third in service by about March 2020 (covid outbreak), about 70% after school summer holidays, and all 750 vehicles in service by December 2020 timetable change.

Some of the lower numbered ones rolled off production line 4.5 years ago.
This clearly has to a record for when the first train of its class was completed and still not in revenue earning service.

The 730's are not far behind on this either.
 

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The Class 701s have been running out of Waterloo since at least October 2019... October 2019 was when I visited Legoland Windsor.

Not my photo, but you can see it here:

It replaced the Class 450, again not my photo:
So the irony of this is… Lego managed to build and enter their 701 in service quicker than Bombalstom whose units are still not in service some 4 / 4.5 years later. Knowing the quality of some Lego kits (try taking them apart!) it’s probably better built :lol:
 

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So the irony of this is… Lego managed to build and enter their 701 in service quicker than Bombalstom whose units are still not in service some 4 / 4.5 years later. Knowing the quality of some Lego kits (try taking them apart!) it’s probably better built :lol:
Likely no rattles for a start.
 

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If it's the pigeon advert, it's been on and off TV/online for about 18 months! I remember pointing out to someone last year that the trains featured in it weren't actually in service... Plus ca change, as they say

They've been using that set of ads for the past couple of years. I doubt if the average passenger would notice what it's supposed to be.
Ah I see, thanks for letting me know - this is the first time I've seen them, I don't really watch much TV and hadn't seen them online before.

That really does go to show just how much the introduction time line has slipped though.
 
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I've been talking to some people and apparently ABDO, one of the star features of the 701, has been scrapped because drivers have refused to accept the PTI risk due to DCO camera quality. Reportedly the sensors haven't been installed either, and the "ABDO Plan" which was in the last business report is down the drain too.
 

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I've been talking to some people and apparently ABDO, one of the star features of the 701, has been scrapped because drivers have refused to accept the PTI risk due to DCO camera quality. Reportedly the sensors haven't been installed either, and the "ABDO Plan" which was in the last business report is down the drain too.
It was reported in Modern Railways a few issues back that there were no plans to introduce ABDO until after the whole fleet was well bedded in so hardly significant.

The case for ABDO is surely no longer there anyway given that the previously planned service levels are never going to happen.
 

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