Goldfish62
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Yes, seen that. Somewhat surprised they found a pot of the right shade of brown!
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vla50
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Surprised that one is still going, along with 37003. Assuming the rest of the replacements are still a way off yet! Maybe they'll go once the 3 B9s on loan to Eastern Counties come down though?
Paperyostrich
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Quick question about the new electric buses for Somerset if I may?
Looking at the routes they are to be introduced on I have a question about why the 2 Town Service is one of them? I have had a skim through the thread and couldn't see anything so apologies if this has been asked.
The 2 if I am correct interworks with the 4 to Lane estate (or at least it used to!). Does this mean that the 4 will also get the new electric buses or is there to be service changes to the 2 when the buses are introduced such as increased frequency, or it will interwork with the 1 instead? I can't seem to figure out how it will work!
Just thought it would have been better for the 6 or even 7 to have the electrics introduced instead of an hourly town service but I am sure there is a reason behind it.
Looking at the routes they are to be introduced on I have a question about why the 2 Town Service is one of them? I have had a skim through the thread and couldn't see anything so apologies if this has been asked.
The 2 if I am correct interworks with the 4 to Lane estate (or at least it used to!). Does this mean that the 4 will also get the new electric buses or is there to be service changes to the 2 when the buses are introduced such as increased frequency, or it will interwork with the 1 instead? I can't seem to figure out how it will work!
Just thought it would have been better for the 6 or even 7 to have the electrics introduced instead of an hourly town service but I am sure there is a reason behind it.
DaveHarries
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If they do interwork - and the timetable suggests that may still be the case because otherwise any journey on Service 2 which didn't interwork with another route would have a 31 minute layover at Taunton Parade - then I don't know why they don't simply run it as one route (ie. Service 2 between Lane Estate and Priorswood) but I wonder also if they might find a way to run a more convenient bus service through to the new estate on the southern edge of Taunton, just off the A38 by extending either the 1 or the 2. The odd thing is that one or two of the Taunton town routes simply replaced parts of other ones when they commenced: for example the Galmington area, covered by Service 7, used to be the western part of Service 4 if I recall correctly.
But yes I think running electrics on an hourly service seems silly but I wonder if the introduction of the electrics might result in a few service changes and any details of such may become apparent at the meeting of the Bus Advisory Board of Somerset Council of which the next meeting is 28th January 2025: SCC only upload the agendas a week before the meeting.
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Goldfish62
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No more Kernow / Cornwall by Kernow. The website page is now rebranded to FirstBus - Cornwall :
www.firstbus.co.uk
Cornwall | First Bus
Our UK Bus division operates around a fifth of local bus services in the UK and is one of the largest bus operators with a fleet of approximately 6,400 buses around the England, Scotland and Wales. We have bus routes serving 40 of the UK’s largest towns and cities providing great value public...
no BoS eitherNo more Kernow / Cornwall by Kernow. The website page is now rebranded to FirstBus - Cornwall :
Cornwall | First Bus
Our UK Bus division operates around a fifth of local bus services in the UK and is one of the largest bus operators with a fleet of approximately 6,400 buses around the England, Scotland and Wales. We have bus routes serving 40 of the UK’s largest towns and cities providing great value public...
Goldfish62
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Indeed, which we were forwarned of when repaints started in corporate livery.
Strange brand anyway. It translated as 'Cornwall by Cornwall'.No more Kernow / Cornwall by Kernow. The website page is now rebranded to FirstBus - Cornwall :
Cornwall | First Bus
Our UK Bus division operates around a fifth of local bus services in the UK and is one of the largest bus operators with a fleet of approximately 6,400 buses around the England, Scotland and Wales. We have bus routes serving 40 of the UK’s largest towns and cities providing great value public...
Goldfish62
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Yes, I always thought it a bit odd. I assume it meant "see Cornwall by travelling on Kernow buses" or something like that.
While the logo / name seemed a little odd, the branding and livery was somewhat smart and I'll rather miss it when it returns to corporate blandness.
Quite agree. It was a well-designed brand -- apart from the translation!
vla50
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37155 now SORN.
Whiteway215
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37177 is also now SORN.
vla50
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That's a shame as I seem to recall that being one of the better ones. At least compared to monstrosities like 37003 and 37175
Goldfish62
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Meanwhile the awful 37003 seems indestructible.That's a shame as I seem to recall that being one of the better ones. At least compared to monstrosities like 37003 and 37175
Whiteway215
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The world will fall silent when 37003 is withdrawn!!!
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vla50
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I wonder whether it'll withdrawn once 37711/37722/37725 enter service, although given 37155 and 37177 have already fallen and 32677, 37175 and 37176 have upcoming MOTs, I suspect it'll stay on. Unless there are more B9s arriving soon.
Whiteway215
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32625 and 37185 have been moved to Long Rock Penzance. Both are out of MOT and have windscreen notices forbidding removal of parts. Presumably awaiting collection by their purchasers.
It appears that BoS have been operating the 28A & 54 illegally. They are over 50km with no split, and tacographs appear not to be used. This will no doubt explain the 'staff sickness' on many journeys this week. I can't see that the journeys that are running are doing so legally.
cactustwirly
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Does that mean all the Geminis are going?
vla50
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They've been meant to go for the past 2 and a half years! But sadly, yes, all of the remaining 17 will be gone, the question is more when. Other than the 3 B9s that were due into Cornwall but are instead being loaned to Eastern Counties, there are no other known replacements and so they could be knocking around for a while!
37175 is apparently due for withdrawal at the end of the school term- unless it gets a last minute stay of execution
Bazer
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20th is 37175 withdrawal date.
Both seen service with First South Yorkshire & First Glasgow
CornwallBus
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Did 37177 have a major unit failure or due MOT?
Whiteway215
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Its MOT isn’t due until 18 June 2025, not sure it it suffered a serious unit failure.
Shame that one's gone (though inevitable), I had it for a few runs back in April and it seemed to be a bit of a flyer that one. Fairly smartly presented inside and a bit of poke on it - unlike some of its tired and wheezy cousins.
Citistar
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Didn't Optibus spot that?
Presumably not. We'll most likely see something in Notices and Proceedings soon.
WibbleWobble
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Following a quick plot on Google Maps I got 29.4 miles on the 28A and 30.5 on the 54 (so both below the 31.05 miles limit).
The figures would be lower because:
- the 28A has a double run - only one direction is counted in the 50km/31.05 miles limit, the double-back bit is disregarded;
- the 54 uses a bus gate near Junction 25, which Google Maps naturally cannot route through.
If I've missed something, please let me know!
The figures would be lower because:
- the 28A has a double run - only one direction is counted in the 50km/31.05 miles limit, the double-back bit is disregarded;
- the 54 uses a bus gate near Junction 25, which Google Maps naturally cannot route through.
If I've missed something, please let me know!