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Very helpful again, thanks. I suppose a lot of TOPS is obsolete now, a lot has changed since the '60s I suppose.
I'd dearly love to see this full list of TAG codes if there's any way I could somehow copy them? The whole document sounds completely fascinating to be honest.
Aidan.
Thanks for that!! What different instructions do each give? They're often associated with cripple codes E, L, P or J.
However, those same cripple codes often appear without a cripple instruction. Why?
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Specifically I've seen CIFMC with a cripple L or P or J and a CIFVM with a cripple E.
Hiya all,
In the SPL column of a TOPS list you will, from time to time, see CIFVM, CIFMC or CIWGN. I believe CI stands for cripple instruction - not sure.
Does anyone know what the letters in these three codes stands for? AND what instructions they are giving?
They are always associated with...
Thanks! I love your username!!
I don't see the TAG column used very often. Usually it's blank. I have seen odd trains to Hams Hall where every wagon is given 652. 652 is for Bescot, which Hams Hall is not part of. How can that be explained? The one time one of the wagons was given 72E? Well, I...
So why 652. Neither 652 nor 72E have anything to do with Hams Hall. All those marked 652 continued back north to Mossend. The one marked 72E was detached at Hams Hall.
Hiya!!
So I thought it was for the destination Stannox but in this example the train was Mossend to Hams Hall. The Stannox for Hams Hall does not start with 652. Also one of the wagons had TAG 72E. How could we account for these two TAG codes?
Aidan.
Thanks all. You mentioned CIFVM and CIFMC may stand for cripple (with the letter CI meaning unknown) and "freight vehicle movement" and "freight movement controlled" and "wagon". In what scenarios might CIFVM, CIFMC or CIWGN be used instead of another? They often come with certain cripple codes...
Once again a stunning set of really useful responses. You mentioned CIFVM and CIFMC may stand for cripple (with the letter I meaning unknown) and "freight vehicle movement" and "freight movement controlled" and "wagon". In what scenarios might CIFVM, CIFMC or CIWGN be used instead of another...
Adrian that's a stunning response!! It must have taken at least half an hour to write all of that!!
I shall add it to my notes and inform my colleagues as it was something a lot of us were struggling to find out, including folk who were in TOPS!!
I do have one more question! The TPB column...
Hiya all,
In a TOPS list in the HD column, it will often be empty.
For container train it's often the letter H all the way down.
In IPA/IFA car trains, it's usually H including for IFAs but IFAs that have spigots have an S in the HD column.
I've noticed that the letter also forms part of the...
Hello all,
I was wondering if any of you know where I might be able to get hold of the above timetable, as a printed copy? Cash paid!!
Kind regards,
Aidan.
Hello all,
Does anyone know if any of these 350s are out and which way they're going? 401, 408, 409, 410. That would be for today and tomorrow ideally although I presume tomorrow wouldn't be known until the day itself.
Kind regards,
Aidan.