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ste898

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They wont admit to anything....

As long as they are saving the world....its tuff luck for passengers
 
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mbonwick

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No mention of the fact that for most of the day outside peaks the Floptares are coping fine...somehow I think a rejig of vehicle allocations to get the E200s out in the peaks more effectively will solve most problems.
 

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It didn't take long for complaints about the Solos to make the news in Carlisle.

http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/state-of-the-art-buses-in-carlisle-blasted-by-passengers-1.1220684

I shall be trying the new Solos out for the first time today. I am trying to keep an open mind but my experience of 47921 is making that difficult.
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48001 operated all day yesterday on th 62 however I took a picture of this vehicle last week, I was travelling in the opposite direction but I'm sure it's registration has been changed can anyone else confirm this for me please
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ernie
 

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Hi,
48001 operated all day yesterday on th 62 however I took a picture of this vehicle last week, I was travelling in the opposite direction but I'm sure it's registration has been changed can anyone else confirm this for me please
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ernie

Yeah it has been swapped with 48002 after an initial mix up somehow.
 

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The regular bus on the 685 Carlisle - Brampton shorts is a solo. Used to be the old style Solos, then a new Solo 47921 appeared for a few months, then back to the old Solos and in the last couple of weeks either 48001 or 48002. In the event of a lack of Solos, then anything is used, including occassionally double deckers.

The 685 Newcastle regular Stagecoach buses are the coach seated E300s - 27141 and 27142.
 

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Now they are even dragging the old 05 darts out in carlisle

Hi,
Yes I was talking to an elderly gentlemen who was waiting for a 62 when a dart passed he was really slating the Optares. He said apart from not being able to get a seat because they're full at school times, they're clostrophobic, to small, no air and the throw you off the seats when they stop and that he would rather have one of them old things pointing to the dart passing opposite. Must say the message is universal they are not liked which is strange when you think Reays run them on the 75 without a lot of complaints, but it must be their leather seats.
Ernie
 

ste898

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Hi,
Yes I was talking to an elderly gentlemen who was waiting for a 62 when a dart passed he was really slating the Optares. He said apart from not being able to get a seat because they're full at school times, they're clostrophobic, to small, no air and the throw you off the seats when they stop and that he would rather have one of them old things pointing to the dart passing opposite. Must say the message is universal they are not liked which is strange when you think Reays run them on the 75 without a lot of complaints, but it must be their leather seats.
Ernie

Yep disgraceful times in carlisle
 

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Taken from the Bay website:-

There has been major disruption in Lancaster today (Wednesday), after an accident involving a bus and a pedestrian.

It happened on North Road at lunchtime. The area was cordoned off with police tape, causing long tailbacks outside the city.

Knock-on effects were felt by drivers using the the A6 (Parliament Street), from the A589 at Greyhound Bridge Road to the A683 at Skerton Bridge, with congestion reported on the A589 (Morecambe Road to Scale Farm Road), the A6 (Slyne Road to Vale Road) and on the A683 (Caton Road) to junction 34 of the M6.
 

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When do the new Gold E400s come in on the X4 and X5?

Getting closer perhaps? As the the Gold E300s for Stagecoach Banbury are now appearing - (http://www.oxford-chiltern-bus-page.co.uk/Spottings and Jottings nr 87 150715.html) - quote "I understand that these Gold E300's are for Wales 13, Banbury 5 and West Cumbria 2.

(Indeed this E300 is for Stagecoach Banbury with fleet number 28742, the first of a batch of five, 28742-28746 for use on the S4 between Banbury and Oxford. Ed.)
" end quote.
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New managing director for Cumbria bus operator.

News and Star 13th July 2015 - http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/business/new-managing-director-for-cumbria-bus-operator-1.1222350

Stagecoach has appointed Matthew Cranwell as managing director of its bus operations in Cumbria and north Lancashire.

He replaces Nigel Winter, who leaves on September 1 to head the group’s presence in south Wales.

Mr Cranwell, 34, arrives as Stagecoach comes under mounting criticism from passengers in Carlisle over a new £3m fleet of environmentally-friendly vehicles.

The 26 Optare Solo midi-buses have only 28 seats, compared with 38 seats for the vehicles they replaced, prompting complaints about over-crowding.

They are similar to buses already used on town services in Workington and Whitehaven and entered service in Carlisle last month.

Mr Cranwell is no stranger to Cumbria, having spent a year as operations director at Stagecoach Cumbria and North Lancashire in 2012-13 before becoming operations director at Stagecoach North East.

He will be based at the company’s office in Broadacre House, Lowther Street, Carlisle, responsible for 750 employees and more than 300 buses that travel 13m miles and carry 25m passengers each year.

Mr Cranwell said: “I am delighted to be taking on this role and look forward to working with the Stagecoach team in Cumbria to continue delivering high-quality, affordable bus travel, strong partnership working and excellent customer service for the people that rely on our services.”

Originally from Nottinghamshire, and a graduate of Nottingham Trent University, he is a product of Stagecoach’s fast-track graduate development programme.

He began his career in the bus industry at Stagecoach South in 2004, then progressed to assistant manager at its Walkergate depot in Newcastle in 2005.

He was appointed operations manager at Stockport in 2006, then operations manager at Oxford two years later.

He stayed there until he joined Stagecoach Cumbria and North Lancashire in 2012.

Robert Montgomery, Stagecoach UK Bus managing director, said: “I would like to congratulate Matt on his promotion.

“His appointment is another example of the strength of our graduate development programme in helping to develop successful young managers.

“Matt’s experience with Stagecoach over the past 11 years will stand him in good stead to take on the opportunities and challenges of his new role and I have no doubt that he will continue the good work done by Nigel.”
 

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Perhaps Mr Cranwell will have a better idea of Carlisles needs. He cannot make a worse job than the last incumbent.

Sadly, its not just Carlisle network that needs looking at.

I have recently been compering timetables over the years, for bus services around the Lancaster area. As I am fed up of buses speeding everywhere.

When Lancaster City Transport, were running the Morecambe - Carnforth service, buses were allowed 6-mins between Happy Mount Park and Hest Bank, now at is only 3-mins (half the time), also between Hest Bank and Bolton-le-Sands, buses were also allowed 6-mins, again it is now only 3-mins (again half the time), plus the speed limit as been lowered in recent times.


Taken from the Bay website:-

There has been major disruption in Lancaster today (Wednesday), after an accident involving a bus and a pedestrian.

It happened on North Road at lunchtime. The area was cordoned off with police tape, causing long tailbacks outside the city.

Knock-on effects were felt by drivers using the the A6 (Parliament Street), from the A589 at Greyhound Bridge Road to the A683 at Skerton Bridge, with congestion reported on the A589 (Morecambe Road to Scale Farm Road), the A6 (Slyne Road to Vale Road) and on the A683 (Caton Road) to junction 34 of the M6.

A 77-year old pedestrian who was involved in a collision with a bus in Lancaster earlier this month, has today died in hospital (Monday).

The incident happened on the 8th of July on Parliament Street, near to the North Road car park just before mid-day.

He was airlifted to the Royal Preston Hospital with serious injuries.

The coroner will be informed.
 
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Can anyone please advise whether the last of the new open tops for this season have entered traffic yet, or when they might be expected to do so? I haven't seen any news of 17692 since it was at Lillyhall for the open day in May, nor of 17489 since early June, when it moved from Blackburn to Carlisle for painting. Thanks.
 

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Few Fleet Movements to mention...

28513, 28514, 34743 from CY to GM

18145, 18146, 18148 from CY to Wigan

47655, 47336, 47337, 47335 from CY to PR.
 

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Are those moves from Chorley part of the rundown of services operated from there, ahead of the depot closing?
 

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Well kind of, the TFGM school contracts have moved and will be operated by Wigan, the 2 Scania Single deck move to GM to work the Merseytravel Schools, other fleet movements are part of the overall plan.

Just as a quick note, it's not closing just re locating the only thing that will close is the garage on Eaves Lane, all local services are still the same as are the 125.
 
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Well kind of, the TFGM school contracts have moved and will be operated by Wigan, the 2 Scania Single deck move to GM to work the Merseytravel Schools, other fleet movements are part of the overall plan.

Just as a quick note, it's not closing just re locating the only thing that will close is the garage on Eaves Lane, all local services are still the same as are the 125.

Will there be a replacement depot in Chorley or are the services going to be operated from Preston?
 

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Solos 47081-83 have arrived at Gillmoss from Exeter.

Good job they didn't get lost- if they were 'Odin out hope for an Atlas, they'd be sunk- they'd have to steer by Orion or some other constellation.

Shame they didn't send another two- that would have made a Mammoth transfer!
 

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Just as a quick note, it's not closing just re locating the only thing that will close is the garage on Eaves Lane, all local services are still the same as are the 125.

Will there be a replacement depot in Chorley or are the services going to be operated from Preston?

The answer to your question is the in the post you've quoted.

Is the over flow parking area at Tyrer's depot part of the plan or is it a new depot location altogether?

Some fleet notes, Preston based E400 19044 has been or is currently at Chorley. Picture (not mine) showing it at Bolton on Friday (24th) https://www.flickr.com/photos/jongraham890/19980592961/in/photostream/

Also Chorley currently have an older Solo in use, its been past the house a few times today on the 113 but I've not managed to get the number.
 
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