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Dispute over cat "ownership": police say it's a "civil matter"

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jon0844

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Shoplifting is now considered not worth worrying about if the value is under £200 I believe? I remember when it was £75 and was shocked.

Sure, they'll come if there's any violence or public order offences, but shoplifters must know how to act. Given their numerous offences and the difficulty in barring people and taking out civil prosecutions against those with no income, it seems shoplifters have it easy.

The same applies for the other things you've mentioned... and all of it does very little for society as it makes people learn that they CAN get away with anything.
 
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what would YOU do if someone was tailgating you? accelerate? do you even know what tailgating is?

If I were on a dual carriageway or motorway, I would move into lane 1 if not there already and safe to do so. If I am in lane 1, then keep a safe distance from the vehicle in front, the tailgater will overtake very soon. If they can't overtake, then the road is congested and everyone is moving at roughly the same speed.

If on a single carriageway road, I make sure I can stop within the distance I can see to be clear (as normal), and if I encountered a suitable straight section of road with no oncoming traffic, I would indicate left and gently slow which normally results in the tailgater overtaking. If that is not possible, then pull over at a layby to let them past. Better to let an idiot past me and away from me than keep him/her in a position to threaten my safety.
 

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Unfortunately the police often will not prosecute despite a crime clearly being committed. It's a sad state of affairs, but it isn't just in the world of cats, it's shoplifting, it's things like cycling on the pavement, smoking weed, criminal damage, bike thefts, etc etc.

If it were my cat, and the police had refused to investigate or prosecute, I'd be straight down the court filing papers to bring a private prosecution against the thief.

Agreed. Cats are clearly people’s property.
 

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Unfortunately the police often will not prosecute despite a crime clearly being committed. It's a sad state of affairs, but it isn't just in the world of cats, it's shoplifting, it's things like cycling on the pavement, smoking weed, criminal damage, bike thefts, etc etc.

If it were my cat, and the police had refused to investigate or prosecute, I'd be straight down the court filing papers to bring a private prosecution against the thief.
How does one file papers for a private prosecution?
 

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The trick is to rest your left foot on the brake pedal... it don't half give them a fright when your brake lights come on!

Just what you shouldn't do. As the poster above yours has correctly stated, lift your foot off the loud pedal and slow down before gently accelerating back to your original speed. You only have to do this a couple of times before the tailgater gets the hint. Dabbing or resting on the brake pedal is a recipe for road rage.
 

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I thought that I would update this thread! “Nipper” is now at home sleeping in my armchair. After the comments on the night of starting this thread, my mind kicked into gear. I was able to find online a Cats Protection leaflet (amongst others) that laid out in clear terms that cats are property, and what you are expected to do if you find a lost/stray animal! Which I emailed to the officer in charge, because she and her superiors did not have the right information. In fact I spoke to several officers due to the shift/leave patterns. I was promised my calls would be returned and they rarely where! I have calls from County H.Q. informing me that I would hear back, I am still awaiting calls back from Sat 15th Sept and Mon 17th.

To cut a long story short, I visited the “Catnappers” home but failed to regain the cat. But I did record the Husband stating that if I paid the vets bill I could have him returned. (Which was soon done.) Prior to this the wife had stated she was rehoming the cat, because we could not care for him. Yes I admit he was ill and looked a bit of a state, but we had obtained a course of treatment which was being given. So due to their actions we had had to pay for two sets of treatment! We offered them to visit us to see our other cats and the treatment we where using on “Nipper” They where not interested. I should state at this point the moment they know the cat was ours, is the time that the law requires them to return the animal, they have no power to remove the animal, only the R.S.P.C.A. and the Police can do that. One further point being that the vet they took him to didn’t call the R.S.P.C.A. which they should have done if they had concerns.

After speaking once more to the Police I was advised not to go back to their property (Mainly due to the veiled threat of dogs!) Unable to get contact by phone or email and with the Friday rehoming deadline, wife and myself where at wits end, I contacted various local and non local cats’ homes to inform them of this situation. I write a formal letter requesting the return of the cat, which I had delivered to their roadside mailbox. On Sun 16th phone call from the wife, informing that we could have the cat back because it had run away while they where feeding him! Strange as this animal will not pass a plate with crumbs on it! So a few very choice words and a promise that I would see them in court!

The upshot being on the following Tuesday afternoon, a phone call from the vets the cat had been handed in and could be collected from them, all very strange!
 
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