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Private Baxter · 23 Jul 2019

News about both the 7XP and X5 were quite unexpected. From my observation, the 7XP has always appeared quite busy, at least at peak time out of Bristol, though I can't really comment on the full service as have never really used it. I appreciate the bridge toll will have had an affect on the service, though haven't paid much attention to that!

As for the X5, as far as I know, that is quite busy up down the route, and has been running for years, but I suppose the figures suggest otherwise. Still a bit of a surprise though.

Wonder what will become of the buses themselves? They could become surplus, and head elsewhere. Or perhaps the three 7XP E400s are some of those planned for Wells for 376? They'd be quite suitable!

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Marcus Fryer · 23 Jul 2019

AB93 said:
39401 on the 96 today.

According to bustimes.org it's on there again today. Is this its permanent home now (similar to the Electrocities transfer to the 36)?

TheGrandWazoo · 23 Jul 2019

Marcus Fryer said:
According to bustimes.org it's on there again today. Is this its permanent home now (similar to the Electrocities transfer to the 36)?

Has it moved to Hengrove?

swifty · 23 Jul 2019

TheGrandWazoo said:
Has it moved to Hengrove?

Seems it has moved to Hengrove.

I wonder if it’s temporary or if it’s easier to fuel at the CT Plus yard?

Marcus Fryer · 23 Jul 2019

33953 has been running on the Y4 today, since 14:45 Bristol to Yate.

TheGrandWazoo · 23 Jul 2019

swifty said:
Seems it has moved to Hengrove.

I wonder if it’s temporary or if it’s easier to fuel at the CT Plus yard?

I did wonder whether it's getting fuelled at Parson Street.

Whiteway215 · 24 Jul 2019

Old news probably but 11111 is back in York after its Bath trial. So I wonder if any are coming this way. I've read some sources are saying yes but another is denying it!

Anthony ross · 24 Jul 2019

What would happen to the contract between first and ct plus Bristol for the Metrobus route that the ct plus operate on behalf of first if first sold the company

TheGrandWazoo · 24 Jul 2019

Anthony ross said:
What would happen to the contract between first and ct plus Bristol for the Metrobus route that the ct plus operate on behalf of first if first sold the company

I'm sure that any contract that CT Plus have with First will have a change of ownership clause (on either side) that would allow for the contract to be novated or to be terminated, depending on who is being sold and to whom. That's pretty standard stuff.

NorthernSpirit · 24 Jul 2019

Whiteway215 said:
Old news probably but 11111 is back in York after its Bath trial. So I wonder if any are coming this way. I've read some sources are saying yes but another is denying it!

York is set to recieve a batch of MetroDeckers (going by the FirstGroup suvival thread), these MetroDeckers may be for the Park and Rides which could see the York Citaros head to Bath. I can't think of anywhere else that'll want them.

First York are already repainting and referbishing their fleet, there's a photo of one B7's on the First West Yorkshire & York thread - so I doubt that the B7's will go anywhere anytime soon.

TheGrandWazoo · 24 Jul 2019

NorthernSpirit said:
York is set to recieve a batch of MetroDeckers (going by the FirstGroup suvival thread), these MetroDeckers may be for the Park and Rides which could see the York Citaros head to Bath. I can't think of anywhere else that'll want them.

First York are already repainting and referbishing their fleet, there's a photo of one B7's on the First West Yorkshire & York thread - so I doubt that the B7's will go anywhere anytime soon.

The electric Metrodeckers are for the P&R. It was rumoured (and the trial suggests) that 9 Citaro artics are due from York; the only other current bendi ops are Kernow and Aberdeen IIRC.

York has just lost 2xB7. However, it was a B9 just repainted. They could send down 37359 back for woeful hybrid 39005 if they wanted.

CD · 25 Jul 2019

From Monday 29th July for 5 weeks the 2 and U2 in Bath diverted.

https://travelwest.info/travel_upda...-99618149&mc_cid=012b9a7642&mc_eid=0fe98e4eff

Whiteway215 · 25 Jul 2019

CD said:
From Monday 29th July for 5 weeks the 2 and U2 in Bath diverted.

https://travelwest.info/travel_upda...-99618149&mc_cid=012b9a7642&mc_eid=0fe98e4eff

The U2 is put on a ridiculously long diversion so if anyone fancies a mystery tour of Bath in the next five weeks now's your chance!

Class 33 · 25 Jul 2019

Still being kept in suspense about the September changes. The changes this year happening a little later than usual, on Sunday 15th September. Previously it was either the last Sunday in August or the first Sunday in September that the changes took place. Hopefully by this time next week, there should be some more news. All we know so far is the 2 being re-routed via Henbury.

diffywood · 25 Jul 2019

According to traveline changes on 1st and 15th of September like previous years

-Colly405- · 26 Jul 2019

VOSA today already has 38 entries up for First WOE. For Bristol, up already are:
1/9
Change of route/timetable: 5 37 39/X39 T1/T2
Change of timetable: 178 349 376 PORT BRIS
15/9
Change of route/timetable: A1 1/2 24 35/35A 42/42A/43 72 M2
Change of timetable: 6/7 8/9 73 44/45 75/76 96 M3/M3X/U3
New: M1 M-F Aztec West-Centre
23/9
Change of timetable: U1/U2

Of course, as it is VOSA, a reported change to the '1/2' may actually only be a change to one of them, etc.

Interesting that First are registering M1 shorts...

freetoview33 · 26 Jul 2019

-Colly405- said:
VOSA today already has 38 entries up for First WOE. For Bristol, up already are:
1/9
Change of route/timetable: 5 37 39/X39 T1/T2
Change of timetable: 178 349 376 PORT BRIS
15/9
Change of route/timetable: A1 1/2 24 35/35A 42/42A/43 72 M2
Change of timetable: 6/7 8/9 73 44/45 75/76 96 M3/M3X/U3
New: M1 M-F Aztec West-Centre
23/9
Change of timetable: U1/U2

Of course, as it is VOSA, a reported change to the '1/2' may actually only be a change to one of them, etc.

Interesting that First are registering M1 shorts...

I think M1 shorts are replacing the T3.
And I think the 35/35A and 42A may combine.

Wessexbuses · 26 Jul 2019

33127 is currently on Route 54 to Yeovil & Taunton

-Colly405- · 26 Jul 2019

freetoview33 said:
I think M1 shorts are replacing the T3.

That really wouldn't go down well as the T3 and M1 have hardly any overlap; although I do note that the current T1/T2/T3 registration will be just T1/T2 from September...

diffywood · 26 Jul 2019

Add 19 19a and D3 from 1/9 to that list

spw24 · 26 Jul 2019

32349 is now back in Lawrence Hill this afternoon so should be back out again soon

ValleyLines142 · 26 Jul 2019

spw24 said:
32349 is now back in Lawrence Hill this afternoon so should be back out again soon

Where did it go?

spw24 · 26 Jul 2019

Believe it was at Avonmouth as its got a shiny new lower front panel

CD · 26 Jul 2019

Wessexbuses said:
33127 is currently on Route 54 to Yeovil & Taunton

Thanks for the info.
It did do a 2nd trip to Yeovil on 1610 from Taunton, so I was able to have it to Somerton on 1740 from Yeovil.

diffywood · 26 Jul 2019

Bristol to get 'Oyster' style smart ticketing for buses and trains

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/...-3141811#ICID=Android_BristolPostApp_AppShare

Whiteway215 · 27 Jul 2019

66726 repainted in Discover had arrived at Weston Island by Weds 24th.

D2007wsm · 27 Jul 2019

69511 currently in it’s old stomping ground on the 14:35 37 from Bristol to Bath. Discover comes to Bristol!

Class 33 · 27 Jul 2019

-Colly405- said:
VOSA today already has 38 entries up for First WOE. For Bristol, up already are:
1/9
Change of route/timetable: 5 37 39/X39 T1/T2
Change of timetable: 178 349 376 PORT BRIS
15/9
Change of route/timetable: A1 1/2 24 35/35A 42/42A/43 72 M2
Change of timetable: 6/7 8/9 73 44/45 75/76 96 M3/M3X/U3
New: M1 M-F Aztec West-Centre
23/9
Change of timetable: U1/U2

Of course, as it is VOSA, a reported change to the '1/2' may actually only be a change to one of them, etc.

Yes, probably won't be any route change to the 1. I think there hasn't been any route change to the 1 for over 20 years now, since 1998 when the service was just extended beyond Henbury to Cribbs Causeway. So would be very surprised if there's any significant route changes coming up.

Intrigued though what the route changes will be for the 5, 37, 39, X39, T1, T2, 24, and 72. Guess we'll have to wait another couple of weeks to find out.

TheGrandWazoo · 27 Jul 2019

Class 33 said:
Yes, probably won't be any route change to the 1. I think there hasn't been any route change to the 1 for over 20 years now, since 1998 when the service was just extended beyond Henbury to Cribbs Causeway. So would be very surprised if there's any significant route changes coming up.

Intrigued though what the route changes will be for the 5, 37, 39, X39, T1, T2, 24, and 72. Guess we'll have to wait another couple of weeks to find out.

Are the route changes to 39/x39/178 related to the change of stops at Temple Meads?

I doubt it’s anything particularly significant

DaveHarries · 28 Jul 2019

-Colly405- said:
VOSA today already has 38 entries up for First WOE. For Bristol, up already are:
1/9
Change of route/timetable: 5 37 39/X39 T1/T2
Change of timetable: 178 349 376 PORT BRIS
15/9
Change of route/timetable: A1 1/2 24 35/35A 42/42A/43 72 M2
Change of timetable: 6/7 8/9 73 44/45 75/76 96 M3/M3X/U3
New: M1 M-F Aztec West-Centre
23/9
Change of timetable: U1/U2

Of course, as it is VOSA, a reported change to the '1/2' may actually only be a change to one of them, etc.

Interesting that First are registering M1 shorts...

A few more for Bristol, Bath, North Somerset, Wiltshire and Wells too:

Bristol:
- 48, 48A, 49 City Centre - Emersons Green / Lyde Green / UWE (Route, Stopping Places and Timetable) (15-Sep)

Bath, Wiltshire & Wells:
- 3, 3A Bathford - Foxhill (Route and Timetable) (01-Sep)
- 4 Odd Down - Weston (Route and Timetable) (01-Sep)
- 172, 173, 174 Bath - Wells (Route, Stopping Places and Timetable) (01-Sep)
- 178 Radstock - Bristol (Timetable Changes) (01-Sep)
- D1 Bath - Warminster & Warminster - Salisbury (Timetable) (01-Sep)
- D2 Bath - Frome (Timetable) (01-Sep)
- U5, U6 Bath Spa University routes (Timetable) (01-Sep)
- X31 Chippenham - Bath (Route, Stopping Places & Timetable) (01-Sep)

North Somerset:
- 126 Weston-s-Mare - Wells (Route, Stopping Places and Timetable) (01-Sep)

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Dave

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