3 x Carriages on the A55 heading to Holyhead.(possibly 397002 & 5 coaches)

Y Ddraig Coch · 16 Aug 2019

A friend is stuck in chaotic traffic scenes on the A55 on a busy Friday afternoon due to 3 x train carriages on their way to Holyhead travelling extremely slowly.

No pictures unfortunately.

Does anybody know which 3 coaches these are and where they are heading and who for?

Transpenine express?

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Entertexthere · 16 Aug 2019

Class 175?

Y Ddraig Coch · 16 Aug 2019

Why would they go by road? Doubt it.

Erniescooper · 16 Aug 2019

397002 i think making its way to the UK from Velim

Y Ddraig Coch · 16 Aug 2019

Erniescooper said:
397002 i think making its way to the UK from Velim

Thank you , 3 carriages apparently is it all one set?

hwl · 16 Aug 2019

Y Ddraig Coch said:
Thank you , 3 carriages apparently is it all one set?

5 coaches in 397 set

Y Ddraig Coch · 16 Aug 2019

hwl said:
5 coaches in 397 set

Many Thanks.

Not sure Friday afternoon in the school holidays on the way into Wales as the weekend rush begins was an ideal time for the delivery.....but anyway that's another topic.

Eccles1983 · 16 Aug 2019

They have in the past used the old Holyhead concrete/aggregate factory as a storage area for carriages.

Maybe this is happening again.

Y Ddraig Coch · 16 Aug 2019

I can't see anything on RTT yet for them to leave Holyhead?

Does anyone have a date they will leave?

hobbm013 · 16 Aug 2019

Transpenine Express units to be railed and commissioned at the former Anglesey aluminium site

Entertexthere · 16 Aug 2019

Y Ddraig Coch said:
Why would they go by road? Doubt it.

There have been 1 or 2 cases of Class 158s being transported through Barmouth for reasons, so I initially put that logic to it

Y Ddraig Coch · 16 Aug 2019

Entertexthere said:
There have been 1 or 2 cases of Class 158s being transported through Barmouth for reasons, so I initially put that logic to it

That was after an accident I believe. Didn't that hit a tree or tractor or something similar?

6Gtraincrew · 16 Aug 2019

This isn't my picture, but found this posted on the A55 traffic Facebook group.

Y Ddraig Coch · 16 Aug 2019

Must be impressive to see them on the back of a truck as you pass.....not so much if they have put you in miles of tailback s as reported.

alangla · 16 Aug 2019

Is this the furthest along the coast an electric has gone? I know Merseyrail units lived in Llandudno carriage sidings for a while and an EWS 90 had an unplanned trip to Llandudno junction, but has anything gone beyond there?

Y Ddraig Coch · 16 Aug 2019

alangla said:
Is this the furthest along the coast an electric has gone? I know Merseyrail units lived in Llandudno carriage sidings for a while and an EWS 90 had an unplanned trip to Llandudno junction, but has anything gone beyond there?

I think this is the 2nd set , so not the first at least.

krus_aragon · 16 Aug 2019

Y Ddraig Coch said:
Must be impressive to see them on the back of a truck as you pass.....not so much if they have put you in miles of tailback s as reported.

They're no worse than the static caravans and prefab buildings that make their way along the A55. If anything, they're better, as they're nowhere near as wide.

Y Ddraig Coch · 16 Aug 2019

krus_aragon said:
They're no worse than the static caravans and prefab buildings that make their way along the A55. If anything, they're better, as they're nowhere near as wide.

Many reports of them moving incredibly slowly though and causing hold ups I have been told my a few friends today.

gazthomas · 16 Aug 2019

Y Ddraig Coch said:
Many Thanks.

Not sure Friday afternoon in the school holidays on the way into Wales as the weekend rush begins was an ideal time for the delivery.....but anyway that's another topic.

Indeed. The A55 was especially pants today due to the rain

krus_aragon · 16 Aug 2019

Y Ddraig Coch said:
Many reports of them moving incredibly slowly though and causing hold ups I have been told my a few friends today.

I seem to have missed them (and previous convoys), despite driving that way on a daily basis. but I've had three prefabs / wide loads this week.

Ash Bridge · 16 Aug 2019

alangla said:
Is this the furthest along the coast an electric has gone? I know Merseyrail units lived in Llandudno carriage sidings for a while and an EWS 90 had an unplanned trip to Llandudno junction, but has anything gone beyond there?

Class 390s to Holyhead?

krus_aragon said:
They're no worse than the static caravans and prefab buildings that make their way along the A55. If anything, they're better, as they're nowhere near as wide.

I think it's more the weight and shear length of the average modern rail vehicles that makes rather them more difficult than the above, this according to a driver of such transporter vehicles I chatted to some time ago.

alangla · 16 Aug 2019

Ash Bridge said:
Class 390s to Holyhead?

Forgot about them!

Erniescooper · 20 Aug 2019

397002 making its way to Crewe ATC
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K00265/2019/08/22/advanced

Y Ddraig Coch · 20 Aug 2019

Is that the one that comes from Leicester to collect it. Saw it earlier but no return. Obviously been added tonight .

Sheridan · 21 Aug 2019

Spotted the Rail Operations Group train passing RAF Valley on its way to Anglesey Aluminium this afternoon. Apologies for the poor picture but I only had my phone to hand.

Y Ddraig Coch · 21 Aug 2019

Sheridan said:
Spotted the Rail Operations Group train passing RAF Valley on its way to Anglesey Aluminium this afternoon. Apologies for the poor picture but I only had my phone to hand.

What are the coaches behind it for? It's only gone to give the Transpennine a lift hasn't it? Why so long?

800002 · 21 Aug 2019

I suspect they're barrier wagons - but it only requires two, usually.

EE Andy b1 · 21 Aug 2019

Sheridan said:
Spotted the Rail Operations Group train passing RAF Valley on its way to Anglesey Aluminium this afternoon. Apologies for the poor picture but I only had my phone to hand.

Nice capture. 47815 + 47813 i believe.

800002 said:
I suspect they're barrier wagons - but it only requires two, usually.

2 Translator vehicles and barriers also for extra brake force.

800002 · 21 Aug 2019

EE Andy b1 said:
Nice capture. 47815 + 47813 i believe.

2 Translator vehicles and barriers also for extra brake force.

Thanks. I've not come across Translator vehicles before - what do they do, apart from the extra brake force?

EE Andy b1 · 21 Aug 2019

800002 said:
Thanks. I've not come across Translator vehicles before - what do they do, apart from the extra brake force?

Basically a translator vehicle has a different coupler at one end, so it can attach in this case to the Dellner coupler on the Class 397 EMU, so 1 translator vehicle each end of the EMU. The brake pipe for train braking is then continuous throughout the train through the barriers and rear locomotive in this case for added brake force. The brakes may or may not be working on the 397, if not that's when more additional brake force is required.
Some of the ROG operated locomotives have a Dellner coupler and equipment fitted so no need for translator vehicles.

3 x Carriages on the A55 heading to Holyhead.(possibly 397002 & 5 coaches)

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