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That's strange, because I tried it out several times before posting it, and it has just worked again, here's a screendump - except that it now tells me that the uploaded image is too large!
In the meantime, try Pamplona station -correction, RENFE Pamplona, and I'll keep trying...
 
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I don't see any on that Google Maps image.
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That's strange, because I tried it out several times before posting it, and it has just worked again, here's a screendump - except that it now tells me that the uploaded image is too large!
In the meantime, try Pamplona station -correction, RENFE Pamplona, and I'll keep trying...
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The picture link works for me. And yes, that's pretty bad!
 
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Barcelona was pretty bad for graffiti when I was there last year. It did seem that some effort was taken to ensure that windows were kept clear of it as much as possible, and my last journey in Spain (a three-hour slog up the mountains to France on a suburban EMU) they managed to find what I can only assume were the only two units which were free of "community redecoration" efforts!
 
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Drove back from Portugal to Belgium through Spain and France in the summer. North eastern Spain (Burgos etc) has a lot of industry and high rise tower blocks. Loads of graffiti everywhere on anything and everything. Even high up in the Pyrenees you can see it on rock faces and the sides of barns.

It's funny how western youth cultures spread. Usually from the US, into the UK and then radiate out into Europe. Somehow they stick in certain places and fade away in others. When the source of the fad has moved onto the next thing. Then another generation discovers what went on before and it comes back in waves. Like Mod, The Mod Revival and then Britpop.

Is there any correlation with graffiti and high youth unemployment in Spain? I read somewhere that lots of good snooker and darts players came out of my native South Wales due to high youth unemployment at the time.
 
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Drove back from Portugal to Belgium through Spain and France in the summer. North eastern Spain (Burgos etc) has a lot of industry and high rise tower blocks. Loads of graffiti everywhere on anything and everything. Even high up in the Pyrenees you can see it on rock faces and the sides of barns.

It's funny how western youth cultures spread. Usually from the US, into the UK and then radiate out into Europe. Somehow they stick in certain places and fade away in others. When the source of the fad has moved onto the next thing. Then another generation discovers what went on before and it comes back in waves. Like Mod, The Mod Revival and then Britpop.

Is there any correlation with graffiti and high youth unemployment in Spain? I read somewhere that lots of good snooker and darts players came out of my native South Wales due to high youth unemployment at the time.
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I can certainly vouch for this. On the R3 line from Barcelona up to Latour de Carol there's graffiti all over the place right from the city centre up into the wilderness, with only the section around Ribes de Freser (for the Vall de Nuria rack railway) being relatively graffiti free. The graffiti is particularly prevalent around the larger towns of Vic, Ripoll and Puigcerdá. Even the buildings at the tiny, isolated station at Urtx-Alp (the Catalan Corrour, maybe) were covered in spray-paint... but the moment the train crosses the border into France, there's barely any graffiti at all. This suggests both a cultural difference and perhaps less of a laissez-faire attitude.
 
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Not the plane?
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I dunno - some airline liveries could be mistaken for it - I am thinking of BA's awful "multi-cultural" tailfins some years back. Meaningless scribble daubed at the instigation of some arty-farty designer with a pea for a brain and less artistic talent than a baboon. And he/she was probably paid an extraordinary amount of money for this corporate vandalism.
 
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Graffiti - one of my pet hates. I have seen plenty of trains, stations and other railway structures in the UK and elsewhere defaced with it. Its not "art", its not "culture", its not self-expression by urban "yoof" as the bleeding heart brigade would like to believe. its just pure ordinary criminal damage.
 
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Graffiti - one of my pet hates. I have seen plenty of trains, stations and other railway structures in the UK and elsewhere defaced with it. Its not "art", its not "culture", its not self-expression by urban "yoof" as the bleeding heart brigade would like to believe. its just pure ordinary criminal damage.
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Broadly agree - some of it does look good, which does not change that it should not be there in the first place. 'Banksy' - posh, money-spinning graffiti - what he does is good, visually, but is still graffiti! There is, quite possibly, an 'El Banksy' in Spain - perhaps he, like our plain Bristolian 'Banksy', would like to wake up in the morning and see their house a touch repainted? Maybe not - the same with the trains - I have never seen 'decent' (ok, may not exist!) graffiti on a train. Annoying? Yes it is!
 
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I'm quite a fan of Banksy I have to admit, I have one of his books somewhere. But there is a difference between art and just vandalism. Bansky' stuff is the former for sure and some of it is very good indeed. Been down Dover recently? Then you have the likes of "TOX" and "FUME"s of this world, anyone remember them? Could only describe their "work" as exactly what it is; VANDALISM pure and simple. There was a time around fifteen years ago when "TOX-03" occupied just about every available inch of the metropolitan line, I do wonder where "Dan from Stockwell" is now and what he's doing..
 
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There is, quite possibly, an 'El Banksy' in Spain
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Yes there is! 'El Nino de las Pinturas' in Granada has a wide following and I saw some of his street art when I sought out the Plaza Joe Strummer (I kid you not) last week.

Check him out on google images.
 
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Yes there is some good genuine street art out here but the vast majority that I have seen is at the other end of the scale - meaningless scribble produced by semi-literate morons.
 
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