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Proposed "Superbus networks"

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GusB

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I did see something in one of the other threads about this scheme being proposed in Cornwall, but I thought it warranted its own place for discussion.

Source: https://cbwmagazine.com/government-prepares-for-bus-revolution/

Government prepares for ‘bus revolution’
The new measures were announced by Transport Secretary Grant Shapps

Transport Secretary, Grant Shapps, announced a major package of new measures to boost buses at the Conservative Party Conference on Monday.
New low-fare, high-frequency ‘Superbus’ networks, Britain’s first all-electric bus town, better information for passengers, and contactless payment on every city bus were some of the stand-out pledges.

The package, worth £220 million in the first year, will see many cuts to services reversed. It will create ‘express lanes’ for buses in the West Midlands and elsewhere, invest in new ways of providing more frequent public transport in the countryside and other places where conventional buses have dwindled or disappeared, and new apps will also be developed that draw together information on bus routes, fares, and timetables from different bus operators across England into one place.

The government will also commit to the UK’s first-ever long-term bus strategy and funding settlement, including support for local authorities who want to create London-style franchised services in their areas.

Superbus networks will have low fares and there will be more bus priority measures to speed up journeys and make them more reliable.

The first Superbus network will be introduced across the county of Cornwall. The fares pilot is part of a project which is improving the quality, frequency and capacity of rail and bus services to create an integrated public transport system for Cornwall.

Buses are disproportionately used by people on lower incomes, the Government says, and Cornwall has been chosen as a county with significant deprivation and social exclusion. “For many people, the cost and difficulty of travel is a major barrier to getting work. The Superbus service will connect them with jobs, education and evenings out,” the announcement read.

Other Superbus networks will be rolled out next year, with the focus on places that suffer similar problems and where better public transport could significantly improve people’s lives, and will consider improvements in frequency and bus prioritisation.

The package also includes over £20 million for new bus express lanes in the West Midlands to make their buses, which carry over one million people per day, faster and more reliable.

A further £30 million will be paid directly to local authorities in 2020 to 2021, to help them improve current bus services or restore those that have been lost.

Britain’s first all-electric bus town will see an entire place’s city buses changed over to wireless electric vehicles. Country buses will be hybrids, using electric power within the built-up area and diesel outside. Pollution and operating costs will be dramatically reduced. The location is still being discussed with local authorities and operators and will be announced later.

The long-term funding package will be announced as part of the 2020 spending review. It will set out plans to support local authorities which want to pursue London-style bus systems in their areas. Greater Manchester is shortly due to consult on adopting a proposed franchised model in 2020. The package will also support other areas which would prefer to pursue other forms of co-ordination, such as voluntary or statutory partnerships with operators.
It will be interesting to see where Britain's first "all-electric bus town" will be. Will it ever happen, though?
 
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FWIW, I'm intrigued to see which towns successfully get funds. IIRC, there were three pilot schemes in the past (2003?) where funds were made available to improve local transport which were Darlington, Worcester and Peterborough which meant that each one was a Stagecoach, Arriva and First town.

  • Worcester got some bus priority and First allocated a load of new vehicles? Nowadays, the bus priority isn't policed, First have consistently trimmed the network and are now expected to move out more of the most modern vehicles, whilst Worcestershire CC have slashed funding for supported services. Also, the Park and Rides have been closed - think one of them has now been sold for development.
  • Darlington spent a lot of money on additional roads, replaced every bus stop flag and most shelters, and pedestrianised the ailing town centre. Arriva has invested in new vehicles for the town though quite a few of the Solos are now >10 years old but generally it's not too bad. However, I don't think Darlington unitary supports local buses any more
  • Peterborough is the one I don't know much about. From infrequent visits, it seems like the usual Stagecoach operation of decent fleet replacement and a fairly standard mix of ADL products that reflect this fairly constant investment. The city services seem to be fairly frequent but the country services are naturally a bit less frequent as you're in some rather sparsely populated territory
I just hope that local authorities are able to access the funds quickly and that they actually use them for the benefit of bus operators and passengers. The Bristol Metrobus is often quoted (ironically by car drivers) as being a £230m white elephant when much of that spend has been on new roads that actually benefit car users much more than bus passengers.
 

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Jesus, we'd never hear the end of it if it was :lol::rolleyes:
That would be awful. I'd much rather the press was full of stories about how 'hard pressed' motorists are under attack despite £26 billion being put into roads and the constant reduction in motoring costs!
 

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Just wait until these are actually delivered and people find out that they are probably just the same as other bus routes (look at the MetroBus routes in Bristol lol).
 

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Just wait until these are actually delivered and people find out that they are probably just the same as other bus routes (look at the MetroBus routes in Bristol lol).

Well, it's not about the buses being massively different (e.g. they're not going to be hoverbuses or FTR...thankfully) but you'd expect they will be of a higher spec (like the Bristol metrobus). It's about making sure that they aren't stuck in horrific traffic and that bus infrastructure is properly designed and enforced. Bristol metrobus has the route from Long Ashton with a part time bus lane on Spike Island with parking spaces marked in it - incredible!

How are the lower fares going to be implemented?
Very good question, my friend. I'd like to think it won't be some convoluted pass remuneration rubbish and formula. Something that doesn't have a barrier to new passengers.
 

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How are the lower fares going to be implemented?
The government will come up with a standard reduction that they want, a selection of officials will then discuss how the reduction equates to as a payment, making sure that the companies aren't better off if more passengers arrive. They'll then put up some money for it for a few months then force the local authority to pay for it from then on after which various people will reduce the payment as much as possible until most of the routes are not viable and get withdrawn.
 

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I'd bet on somewhere in Alex Hornby land. Isn't Harrogate already very close to being this?
No - only 10 or 11 departures a hour are usually electric, the remaining 28 to 30 are definitely not. It would presumably be some location where their is a solitary operator.
 

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No - only 10 or 11 departures a hour are usually electric, the remaining 28 to 30 are definitely not. It would presumably be some location where their is a solitary operator.
Of course it depends on what they would count as an ‘all electric town’

Wherever it ended up being would it include as well as the town services, the main interurban services, and also less frequent routes.

In Harrogate’s case would converting the 1 be enough.
 

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In Harrogate’s case would converting the 1 be enough.
No because its largely duplicated by Connexions X1 who also run two local service entirely in Harrogate - X6A and X12. Then you have the fact that large parts of the town are served by long distance interurban services; to the south Transdev 36 to Leeds, Connexions X52 to Ilkley and Yorkshire Tiger 747 to Bradford and to the south-east Transdev 7 via Wetherby to Leeds and Connexions X70 to Wetherby and, as a 412, York
 
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As stated in the report above, the intention is that the town network would be all-electric, and out-of-town routes hybrid. If it's to be Harrogate, the 36 would need a further upgrade. I think that you'd have to be looking at a fairly simple local network in order to properly qualify.
 

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No because its largely duplicated by Connexions X1 who also run two local service entirely in Harrogate - X6A and X12. Then you have the fact that large parts of the town are served by long distance interurban services; to the south Transdev 36 to Leeds, Connexions X52 to Ilkley and Yorkshire Tiger 757 to Bradford and to the south-east Transdev 7 via Wetherby to Leeds and Connexions X70 to Wetherby and, as a 412, York

But don't Connexions operate "Eco-Friendly Green Hybrid 15 year old Scania L94UBs which they repainted the rears of green to make them very very clean and as such they don't put out huge clouds of smoke like those ghastly B7TLs"? :lol:

Granted it's very unlikely but Inverness could be a candidate, There's already 6 Electric Solos there and it wouldn't take much to convert the rest of the "town services".
 

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You've put it far better than I could have done but yes here's the latest 'initiative' destined to repeat the last 50 odd years of the bus industry:rolleyes:
The government will come up with a standard reduction that they want, a selection of officials will then discuss how the reduction equates to as a payment, making sure that the companies aren't better off if more passengers arrive. They'll then put up some money for it for a few months then force the local authority to pay for it from then on after which various people will reduce the payment as much as possible until most of the routes are not viable and get withdrawn.

Also for a bit more recent 21st century history repeating itself see this bit of the article quoted by the OP - anyone remember the transportdirect website which the government pulled the plug on 5 years ago?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_Direct_Portal
Government spin said:
New apps will also be developed that draw together information on bus routes, fares, and timetables from different bus operators across England into one place.
 

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There already is one for routes and times - Google Maps. Barely any point developing a replacement.
When it was launched the functionality now offered by Google Maps did not exist, and AFAIK fares information is not (yet) available in Google Maps.

IIRC the reasoning given for shutting down transportdirect in 2014 was that the private sector now offered the same information.
Maybe they just found £220 million down the back of the sofa at one of the hotels in Manchester and didn't know what to do with it!​
 
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