Severe overhead wire damage near York 02/12

gavin · 2 Dec 2019

Severe overhead wire damage following a dewirement north of the station. No diverts possible on this stretch replacement buses are operating between York and Newcastle from around 14:30.

Newcastle Thunderbird is en-route to the area

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wilsontown · 2 Dec 2019

Seems a bit odd to describe it as the "Strensall area", Strensall is on the Scarborough line so there are no wires there. It's a good 5 or 6 miles away from the ECML.

Alan2603 · 2 Dec 2019

wilsontown said:
Seems a bit odd to describe it as the "Strensall area", Strensall is on the Scarborough line so there are no wires there. It's a good 5 or 6 miles away from the ECML.

I think it is at Overton near Skelton, just north of York on the ECML where the wires are down.

Apparently the fire brigade are on route according to local media.

kingqueen · 2 Dec 2019

I'm on 1Y32 where we are awaiting a Doncaster Thunderbird to drag us into York, where the train will be terminated due to pantograph damage.
LNER have referred on Twitter to a train having OHLE wrapped round the train.

londonmidland · 2 Dec 2019

Cross Country have tweeted that the line block at York is expected until the end of the day.

gavin · 2 Dec 2019

Now confirmed wires are down on all lines doesn't look good for the evening peak

agbrs_Jack · 2 Dec 2019

kingqueen said:
I'm on 1Y32 where we are awaiting a Doncaster Thunderbird to drag us into York, where the train will be terminated due to pantograph damage.
LNER have referred on Twitter to a train having OHLE wrapped round the train.

Is it an 'Azuma' unit?

kingqueen · 2 Dec 2019

agbrs_Jack said:
Is it an 'Azuma' unit?

No, Mark 4

Statto · 2 Dec 2019

Looking on Traksy, there's a couple of Cross Country voyagers stuck behind 1Y32 at Skelton Junction, one of them being Aberdeen to Penzance train, 1E13 Inverness-Kings Cross stuck at Tollerton Junction, 1A65 Sunderland-Kings Cross has managed to cross over, & gone back to Thirsk

Alan2603 · 2 Dec 2019

From local media:

There are problems on the East Coast Main Line again affecting TPE, CrossCountry, Grand Central and LNER.
The power cables have been damaged at Overton, north of York and Minster FM has been told the Fire service has been brought in to help deal with the incident.

Network Rail says:

We’re sorry that there’s significant disruption to the East Coast Main Line near York.

This is because of damage to the overhead line equipment between Skelton Bridge and Skelton Junction in the Overton area.

Our response teams are on site and prioritising getting passengers moving again as soon as possible.

At this stage disruption is expected for several hours.

Passengers should check with National Rail Enquiries or with their train operators before travelling.

An investigation is now underway to find out what happened.

Services will be delayed, amended and cancelled.

More information on trains affected is here

Source:
https://www.minsterfm.com/news/loca...r-cables-on-the-railway-at-overton-near-york/

kingqueen · 2 Dec 2019

We've been warned by staff to expect significant emergency services presence when we reach York, due to being declared a failure.

kingqueen · 2 Dec 2019

We have just been told by the conductor that the cable is actively wrapped around the rear half of our train 1Y32.
The emergency services are checking it is not live, draining residual current, climbing on top of the train and removing the cable.

Kingspanner · 2 Dec 2019

Carnage at Darlington when I passed through off the Saltburn line at about 15.10 Displaced passengers everywhere. RTT suggests things are getting better here but not seeing much action out of a window overlooking the ECML

kingqueen · 2 Dec 2019

Kingspanner said:
Carnage at Darlington when I passed through off the Saltburn line at about 15.10 Displaced passengers everywhere. RTT suggests things are getting better here but not seeing much action out of a window overlooking the ECML

We're apparently expecting to be dragged into York starting about 1630. Until then we're blocking all lines.
Presumably after that they will have to make the OHLE safe for passage of other trains, before the ECML can be reopened.

gazzaa2 · 2 Dec 2019

gavin said:
Severe overhead wire damage following a dewirement north of the station. No diverts possible on this stretch replacement buses are operating between York and Newcastle from around 14:30.

Newcastle Thunderbird is en-route to the area

Any trains stuck this time?

kingqueen · 2 Dec 2019

Our location, and thus that of the fouled OHLE and failed train
https://maps.app.goo.gl/6i3MHoT5kGaBMMK7A

lineclear · 2 Dec 2019

kingqueen said:
The emergency services are checking it is not live, draining residual current, climbing on top of the train and removing the cable.

I would hope that OLE staff are doing that, not the emergency services!

I would hazard a guess that one or more headspans are down between Skelton and Skelton Bridge.

omnicity4659 · 2 Dec 2019

lineclear said:
I would hope that OLE staff are doing that, not the emergency services!

I would hazard a guess that one or more headspans are down between Skelton and Skelton Bridge.

It is the OLE staff. They arrived on scene not long ago.

fairlie · 2 Dec 2019

There are pictures of some of the damage on twitter: eg https://twitter.com/CapitalNENews/status/1201529933710934016

underbank · 2 Dec 2019

gazzaa2 said:
Any trains stuck this time?

IV89 and 1V60 stuck behind. 1Y32 was the cause which has now been dragged to York Station.

158756 · 2 Dec 2019

There's also this picture: https://mobile.twitter.com/sierra18NY/status/1201529076655304704

The incident train was said to be LNER. So if that is a picture of today's incident are/were the wires down on multiple trains?

Marton · 2 Dec 2019

Looks like 1V89 and 1V 60 are moving if the maps on Opentraintimes are right.

Is this good news for some diesel movements later

mralexn · 2 Dec 2019

1E13 (07:55 Inverness to London King's Cross) seems to be heading Northbound now. I wonder if that set will go to Newcastle and become 1W96?

kingqueen · 2 Dec 2019

1Y32 being dragged onwards to London KX having disgorged me.
York station chaotic

CommuterPigeon · 2 Dec 2019

158756 said:
There's also this picture: https://mobile.twitter.com/sierra18NY/status/1201529076655304704

The incident train was said to be LNER. So if that is a picture of today's incident are/were the wires down on multiple trains?

The wires were down on the offending LNER train (1Y32) and also CrossCountry's 1V89 (Newcastle - Reading). I think I heard there is about 3 miles of damage in total.

Walter Whigham · 2 Dec 2019

mralexn said:
1E13 (07:55 Inverness to London King's Cross) seems to be heading Northbound now. I wonder if that set will go to Newcastle and become 1W96?

Now arrived at Darlington where, I suspect, passengers are being detrained for bussing southwards.

ajdunlop · 2 Dec 2019

Why are TPE so bad at dealing with disruption? Ok I know it is always more complicated than it appears to Joe Public like myself. Staffing would seem the main problem (drivers needing breaks, staff needing to end up at the right places at end of service) as units should be available to run either side of the disruption.
Are TPE particularly bad or would any TOC struggle? Having contingency timetables for main parts of their route ready to go would seem like one option.

7522 · 2 Dec 2019

HST just left Newcastle at 17:05 for Inverness. Power car 43316 at rear with set EC51 if that helps anyone identify where that set was earlier.

45107 · 2 Dec 2019

ajdunlop said:
Why are TPE so bad at dealing with disruption? Ok I know it is always more complicated than it appears to Joe Public like myself. Staffing would seem the main problem (drivers needing breaks, staff needing to end up at the right places at end of service) as units should be available to run either side of the disruption.
Are TPE particularly bad or would any TOC struggle? Having contingency timetables for main parts of their route ready to go would seem like one option.

Would you care to go into detail with regards to this incident ?
The 1st post about disruption was at 1427. What do you expect them to do and why target TPE when Cross Country & LNERare also disrupted ?

QueensCurve · 2 Dec 2019

kingqueen said:
I'm on 1Y32 where we are awaiting a Doncaster Thunderbird to drag us into York, where the train will be terminated due to pantograph damage.
LNER have referred on Twitter to a train having OHLE wrapped round the train.

This tweet shows some of the damage.

https://twitter.com/LNER

Severe overhead wire damage near York 02/12

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