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Why are on-train announcements much clearer on some services than others?

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Staff are generally told to talk naturally on the PA,as if talking on the phone. That is why as I understand all on train PAs were designed with telephone style handsets. Some people will speak direct into the mouthpiece as designed. Some will let it drop below their chin rendering the announcement quiet. This happens in life,look around at the way people hold phones even mobiles. The distant subscriber often complains they can't hear but where's the callers mouthpiece?
But surely that is basic training in microphone technique?
 
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West Midlands Trains have refurbished some BR Class 323 units. This has included turning a manual system with clear sound quality (most of the time) into an automated system which sounds as though the speaker is behind a pillow. Something for Northern Rail passengers to look forward to when this lot is dumped on them later this year.

That's TrainFX as per most of the other problems :oops:
 

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TrainFX handles request stops by :-
Option to skip station on route.
Will synchronize at next stop using GPS.
If Darwin enabled (headcode) then if route changed it will load new route with request stop omitted - applies to any route changes as progresses through the route. Does depend on Darwin sending out route change though.

GPS is a can of worms. Depends on number of satellites visible and continuity as well as confidence in result received. Mobile phones are more tolerant on errors so can show a location whereas anything that requires higher certainty of accuracy will say position not known. Only have to ask rescue services their opinion on people that rely on phones when go hiking :)
 

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156503 certainly has TrainFX fitted, it also had auto announcements working as I found out when I put a code in and it came out with Glasgow Central.

Most if not all the ScotRail 156s have now been refurbished and have the TFX system fitted. The ex ScotRail 156s which are now with Northern still have the old systems in from their ScotRail days. They are switched off as they are only programmed for routes within Scotland.
 

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The Northern 158s nearly all have the TFX system. But some are still fitted with another system from their time with another TOC many moons ago. Although this system is disabled on most units.20200108_142534.jpg
 

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The Northern 158s nearly all have the TFX system. But some are still fitted with another system from their time with another TOC many moons ago. Although this system is disabled on most units.View attachment 72469

That's from Wales and West/Wales and Borders/Wessex Trains. It doesn't announce stops but instead does safety announcements, and has a set of pre recorded announcements as well for things like trolley services, impending ticket inspections etc. It's very old fashioned now.
 

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When I was feeling naughty I would play the "Welcome to the Wales & Borders Alphaline Service" then in a faux Welsh accent go through the train asking for tickets from Haverfordwest, Blaenau Ffestiniog, & Llanduddno Junction. It certainly cheered up a few folk on the Fife Circle.
 

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I'm not exactly sure. The Northern units don't have it fitted. Just the ScotRail ones. To the right of the picture is the RETB equipment. Not sure if the tablet is linked to that?
 

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I pressed a few buttons to see what it would do. But nothing significant appeared on the screen. We don't work the ScotRail sets now as the service the unit operated has gone back over to a Northern unit.
 

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Simon,what is the tablet above the PA handset for?

it’s the DAS (Drivers Advisory System) for use by the Scotrail drivers. Again the Northern drivers don’t have use of it for the services we use their units
 
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