Are the lnwr 350/4 specific to any route

Impey0711 said:

On the 8:55 Nuneaton to crewe on Saturday wondering if it will be a 350/4

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DarloRich said:

Your train from Nuneaton is just as likely to be a 350/2

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Bletchleyite said:

Your guess is as good as mine. So far as I can see, the 350s are all used in one common pool.

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The_Train said:

That is my understanding of it as well. There definitely doesn't seem to be any grouping of sub-classes for any specific routes

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Scotrail314209 said:

Weren't the 350/2 initially meant to be for suburban services only? Such as Wolverhampton - Walsall, London - Tring/MKC/Northampton. But then they decided to ditch it and have them in a common pool.

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The_Train said:

Based on the seating layout I would suspect that was initially the case, with the 350/1s working the Euston-North West services but it's been any unit on any route for quite a while now

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Scotrail314209 said:

I feel sorry for anyone who gets booked on the Liverpool - Euston and ends up with a 350/2!

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Bletchleyite said:

Because that's the concatenation of two local services that is highly likely. While the units seem to be in a common pool you do seem to get more 2+2 seated units on the Trent Valley semifasts than elsewhere, though it's not 100%.

That said, it's not all bad. LNR's long distance stuff, at least at weekends, carries a disproportionately large number of families and groups. For these, the bays of 6 (which are very well spaced indeed) are vastly preferable to the mostly airline layout of a /1, /3 or /4. You've also got the fact that with 3+2 you can have 3 people across the width of the train before you have to sit next to someone, whereas with 2+2 it's only two.

They're also the same seats (other than the design of the upper seat back) so unless you're bothered about armrests, if you sit in a non-window seat and nobody is next to you the experience for your backside between the two types is basically the same.

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Bletchleyite said:

Because that's the concatenation of two local services that is highly likely. While the units seem to be in a common pool you do seem to get more 2+2 seated units on the Trent Valley semifasts than elsewhere, though it's not 100%.

That said, it's not all bad. LNR's long distance stuff, at least at weekends, carries a disproportionately large number of families and groups. For these, the bays of 6 (which are very well spaced indeed) are vastly preferable to the mostly airline layout of a /1, /3 or /4. You've also got the fact that with 3+2 you can have 3 people across the width of the train before you have to sit next to someone, whereas with 2+2 it's only two.

They're also the same seats (other than the design of the upper seat back) so unless you're bothered about armrests, if you sit in a non-window seat and nobody is next to you the experience for your backside between the two types is basically the same.

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Scotrail314209 said:

Weren't the 350/2 initially meant to be for suburban services only? Such as Wolverhampton - Walsall, London - Tring/MKC/Northampton. But then they decided to ditch it and have them in a common pool.

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Scotrail314209 said:

Weren't the 350/2 initially meant to be for suburban services only? Such as Wolverhampton - Walsall, London - Tring/MKC/Northampton. But then they decided to ditch it and have them in a common pool.

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Kite159 said:

I think with the current timetable service interworks, so an unit could arrive from Tring then form the next Crewe.

In my experience most passengers if given the option between a 350/2 & other subclass on a pairing will aim for the other subclass. So that the 350/1 can be full and standing with the 350/2 empty

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Bletchleyite said:

Certainly people tend to go for a non /2 if there are seats. I think your observation of it being full and standing may be due to other factors such as an unwillingness to walk to the front of a 12-car at Euston (or back on yourself at the bottom of the long platforms) or because the /2 was added at Northampton.

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