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I spoke to a citybus manager today, they are running the 93, 20 past the hour from Newquay 40 past from Truro. Pretty much similar timetable to the current First Kernow
Has previously been a demonstrator so my money would be on a loan/sale and being used for training/route investigation/learning. (That just about covers all the possibilities!)
Been mentioned elsewhere that it’s in use for training and is ex Cardiff.
Demonstrator photod working routes for citybus in Plymouth city centre last week. Assigned fleet number 1... red number below windscreen on nearside
on the fleet number subject Gcb fleet are being assigned 4 digit fleet numbers so looks like they being segregated from the citybus fleet
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Anyone know if college bus passes will be be allowed for go ahead as well as kernow as the old bus route was run by kernow and now its go ahead so can you use passes on both routes?
the college buses will be unchanged. That’s completely separate. You’ll have to ask GA if they will be accepting on service buses. It’ll remove flexability if they don’t which they have no obligation to
I see on the Plymothian Transit site that the ex London E200’s are receiving 4 digit fleet numbers although I can’t see them being ready in a month for Cornwall routes.
some may be used in a as delivered condition I guess ?
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DaveHarries
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Anyone know if GCB are expecting anything other than ADL Enviro200 MMCs? Only asking as, while in a vehicle heading up the M5 on Tuesday morning (03rd March) a white Optare Solo SR showing "Sorry Not In Service" passed me. However I was heading north and the Solo SR was going south so I didn't get the registration.
Cheers,
Dave
Cheers,
Dave
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I believe Dartline have just received one, so could've been that.
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I think it's fairly safe to say that the Newquay Airport to Truro route idea is dead and buried for the foreseeable future.
Certainly won't be top of the agenda now, not until other airlines take over their routes. You wouldn't want to catch a bus to an airport with no planes, not the best timing for GCB, especially being a flagship service
The problem is it's only a 'flagship' for councilors. The majority of residents of Cornwall, even if they fly somewhere, are not going to be going to Newquay airport.
Won't make a difference who's it is, unless the airport picks up again, a bus service with no passengers is the same as an airport with no planes
The Falmouth routes to be operated by OTS from 29 March are now on Traveline. Interesting that they have a 35 hourly to Helford Passage competing with and at the same times as First's 35. They also have journeys through to Helston as abandoned by First.
The 69 to Mylor Bridge and Flushing is now hourly for most of the day starting at 06:25, a much improved service, and alternate ways round for much of the midday. I think the town services have also been improved and hours extended, the existing 367 has become 67. Great stuff!
And on Traveline the Plymouth 10/11 between Bodmin and Wadebridge has been fixed, much better now and can be deciphered sensibly. It is a pretty good half hourly service between Bodmin Parkway and Wadebridge all through the day after the inevitable school and college variances, including an evening service roughly hourly for a bit through to Padstow. Last bus off Padstow 22.00, arrives Bodmin Parkway at 22.58 to connect into the London sleeper leaving at 23.08. That's one way to eat at Rick Stein's!
The 69 to Mylor Bridge and Flushing is now hourly for most of the day starting at 06:25, a much improved service, and alternate ways round for much of the midday. I think the town services have also been improved and hours extended, the existing 367 has become 67. Great stuff!
And on Traveline the Plymouth 10/11 between Bodmin and Wadebridge has been fixed, much better now and can be deciphered sensibly. It is a pretty good half hourly service between Bodmin Parkway and Wadebridge all through the day after the inevitable school and college variances, including an evening service roughly hourly for a bit through to Padstow. Last bus off Padstow 22.00, arrives Bodmin Parkway at 22.58 to connect into the London sleeper leaving at 23.08. That's one way to eat at Rick Stein's!
DaveHarries
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Later evening service from Plymouth too: last four buses at present are 1745hrs to Bodmin, plus 1845hrs, 2005hrs and 2205hrs Plymouth to Liskeard. However the new timetable has the last four buses at 1845hrs (to Dobwalls), 2010hrs (which appears to run through to Padstow, arr. 2237), 2210hrs (which runs to Dobwalls), and 2340hrs to Liskeard, arr. 0028.
Dave
there is a simple reason. This route was formerly subsidised, so council contracted citybus who sub contracted to OTS, now a commercial route has been registered the council need to give notice to the contractor that their contract is terminated as of the date a commercial service commences. It’s down to the subsidised operator whether they continue commercially in competition.
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I'm interested to know whether Plymouth is counted as 'Cornwall' in terms of both cross- county border services and fare experiments in this exercise. I'd have thought possibly yes for the former, but I'd be more surprised about the latter east of the Tamar.
in terms of concession passes, the border is the border. You can travel one way from Saltash to Plymouth before 0930 but not the other for example
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Sorry, my wording was very lax, I'm feeling tired! I'm referring to the money the government is granting to Cornwall to initiate these lower fare experiments i.e. are they intended to carry over into Plymouth on cross-border services or will the fare for the notional Saltash to Plymouth part of the journey, for instance, remain as now?
What if they tweak it so that the OTS 35 service becomes the 35A, so the 35A becomes hourly but they send the odd one via Helford Passage?
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With just three weeks to go before the start of the brave new world I would expect some advance publicity to let the public know what to expect. Does anyone know if there's anything in the pipeline?
Needless to say the Cornwall Council website was last updated over a year ago and here's the GCB website:
http://www.gocornwallbus.co.uk/
Not even as much as a "coming soon".
Needless to say the Cornwall Council website was last updated over a year ago and here's the GCB website:
http://www.gocornwallbus.co.uk/
Not even as much as a "coming soon".
nothing visible other than the huge West Briton group articles. Only those of us who know to look at traveline etc really have any knowledge.
3 weeks today the service starts and i would have expected some decent detailed publicity by now. Passengers buy monthly tickets and need to plan what to do!
I saw a Twitter post that said GCB were planning to launch a new website and publish timetables a week before commencement of services, which seems inadequate to me.
Absolutely - lots of people might now be buying monthly tickets that will be useless when the new services start or find themselves having to now buy two monthly tickets to cover their same commute. Statements on ticketing availability and interoperability are needed now.
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The Museum is not a good place to stand a bus for any longer than strictly necessary as the road gets blocked, so I hope the way it operates will take this into account.