Class 745 Stadler FLIRTs

Bald Rick · 13 Mar 2020

Railperf said:
I was on a 755(421) that sounded more whiney than usual yesterday sitting above the front bogie. It was also running on 3 engines only. Not sure if that was due to a fault - or a deliberate decision to save fuel / maintenance.
The 745 (006) was accelerated very well. 0 to 60 in less than 40 seconds and 100mph in well under 2 minutes. Very impressive. I make this the UK's fastest accelerating Intercity train??? Though some might argue that as it does not do 125mph..it isnt an Intercity train at all.
These things rip the timetable to shreds arriving 2 to 3 mins early at each station. Mind you - a hard driven 90 in the dry can also arrive early at most stops too. It will be good to see if timings north of Colchester can be reduced in the short term. Sitting at Ipswich Stowmarket and Diss for a combined 10 minutes is ridiculous. And still arrive at Norwich 2 or 3 early!

It will be even quicker when they can use full power

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Carlgoss · 13 Mar 2020

Interesting.. tonight 010 is on the NIN 17.00 from Norwich. It’ll be very interesting! If we get the signals right I wonder.. leaving bang on time!

Railperf · 13 Mar 2020

Bald Rick said:
It will be even quicker when they can use full power

Are they being limited in power delivery somehow? I'm told drivers are applying full power at the controller.

Railperf · 13 Mar 2020

Carlgoss said:
Interesting.. tonight 010 is on the NIN 17.00 from Norwich. It’ll be very interesting! If we get the signals right I wonder.. leaving bang on time!

Arrived on time.

Railperf · 14 Mar 2020

The return working was late due to the 18:30 suffering delays near Colchester. That service eventually arrived Norwich 6 late with the Nin90 hot on its heels.

Railperf · 14 Mar 2020

Are any 745's out today?

JonathanH · 14 Mar 2020

Railperf said:
Are any 745's out today?

Information posted elsewhere indicates that the five Norwich diagrams today are

0650 Ingatestone to Norwich 90012+NC10
0750 Ingatestone to Norwich 745006
0850 Ingatestone to Norwich 745010
0950 Ingatestone to Norwich 745002
1050 Ingatestone to Norwich 90005+NC13

Five hour repeating cycle.

86246 · 14 Mar 2020

In addition 005 is out and about on test.

Railperf · 16 Mar 2020

Any more 745s likely to be accepted this week? How many in service today? Is it the planned 4 and 1 spare?
There appeared to be two Stansted units at Norwich over the weekend - one at Victoria sidings - the other at Crown Point. Are they out on mileage accumulation yet?

DannyMich2018 · 16 Mar 2020

Railperf said:
Any more 745s likely to be accepted this week? How many in service today? Is it the planned 4 and 1 spare?
There appeared to be two Stansted units at Norwich over the weekend - one at Victoria sidings - the other at Crown Point. Are they out on mileage accumulation yet?

Due to the current situation there is little demand for airport services so no rush to get any 745s on the Stansted route- more likely the Norwich route now to remove the non PRM Mk3s.

Railperf · 16 Mar 2020

DannyMich2018 said:
Due to the current situation there is little demand for airport services so no rush to get any 745s on the Stansted route- more likely the Norwich route now to remove the non PRM Mk3s.

I was indeed thinking about whether the Stansted 745s might be used on Mainline services?

BrettSy96 · 17 Mar 2020

Not sure if mentioned already but pretty sure I’ve just seen 009 in service!

BrettSy96 · 17 Mar 2020

BrettSy96 said:
Not sure if mentioned already but pretty sure I’ve just seen 009 in service!

Apologies didn’t realise it has been mentioned further up in the thread :oops:

fat_boy_pete · 17 Mar 2020

BrettSy96 said:
Apologies didn’t realise it has been mentioned further up in the thread

Indeed, I traveled on it last week!

BrettSy96 · 17 Mar 2020

fat_boy_pete said:
Indeed, I traveled on it last week!

Nice! I travel the GEML frequently yet it was the first time I’ve seen 009 today! It was new to me anyway :lol:

Class 170101 · 17 Mar 2020

Railperf said:
Any more 745s likely to be accepted this week? How many in service today? Is it the planned 4 and 1 spare?

Definitely 4 in use. Can't vouch fof the spare.

robert west · 17 Mar 2020

Class 170101 said:
Definitely 4 in use. Can't vouch fof the spare.

Anyone know what was on the 1330 ex Liverpool street
thought it was 008 but may been 009
many thanks

BrettSy96 · 17 Mar 2020

robert west said:
Anyone know what was on the 1330 ex Liverpool street
thought it was 008 but may been 009
many thanks

Think it may have been 009 as it was on the 1100 Norwich to Liverpool Street so think it would make sense if it then made the 1330 return.

robert west · 17 Mar 2020

BrettSy96 said:
Think it may have been 009 as it was on the 1100 Norwich to Liverpool Street so think it would make sense if it then made the 1330 return.

1100 ex Norwich does form the 1330 ex London
many thanks for confirming

Astro_Orbiter · 18 Mar 2020

DannyMich2018 said:
Due to the current situation there is little demand for airport services so no rush to get any 745s on the Stansted route- more likely the Norwich route now to remove the non PRM Mk3s.

You realise if there's little demand for Stanex there'll be little demand across the entire network. I doubt the current situation will affect the current plans, if only to delay them by some weeks.

Abbo · 18 Mar 2020

Astro_Orbiter said:
You realise if there's little demand for Stanex there'll be little demand across the entire network. I doubt the current situation will affect the current plans, if only to delay them by some weeks.

From TV news reports there is little demand for any train service/s. Worrying ? Perhaps one per hour more than adequate for GEML ?

Grumbler · 18 Mar 2020

Abbo said:
From TV news reports there is little demand for any train service/s. Worrying ? Perhaps one per hour more than adequate for GEML ?

By keeping the train frequencies high, each passnger will be able to have more space. This will reduce the spread of infection.

Bletchleyite · 18 Mar 2020

Grumbler said:
By keeping the train frequencies high, each passnger will be able to have more space. This will reduce the spread of infection.

2m is quite adequate, you don't need a coach to yourself.

samuelmorris · 18 Mar 2020

Bletchleyite said:
2m is quite adequate, you don't need a coach to yourself.

Yeah there's only so far they'll be taking that - it's only a matter of time before a sizeable number of drivers need to self-isolate. 1tph for the whole of the GEML might be a stretch but 1tph for the Norwich services will surely be adequate.

Rick1984 · 18 Mar 2020

Hopefully have a nice quite journey on a class 745 next Monday from Norwich

Abbo · 19 Mar 2020

Rick1984 said:
Hopefully have a nice quite journey on a class 745 next Monday from Norwich

Jonathon Denby been on Radio Norfolk this morning saying loadings drastically down across all TOCs but they are required to operate the full service under the terms of the Franchise. Expect urgent talks with Daft.

Eurostar now down to running 3 trains to Paris and 2 to Brusssells per day all with no catering.

fat_boy_pete · 19 Mar 2020

From Twitter:
I am on the 0740 Norwich to Liverpool Street. Boarded at Ipswich. Just so happens to be 745005's first trip in public service, not that there's many public on here. Last time I caught this service it was full. I counted 17.... https://t.co/80gagXDyra

https://twitter.com/busandtrainpage/status/1240565097220710401?s=19

LAX54 · 19 Mar 2020

Abbo said:
Jonathon Denby been on Radio Norfolk this morning saying loadings drastically down across all TOCs but they are required to operate the full service under the terms of the Franchise. Expect urgent talks with Daft.

Eurostar now down to running 3 trains to Paris and 2 to Brusssells per day all with no catering.

Common sense to prevail surely ? If there is a large downturn, cut back the traffic, and keep some Drivers 'spare' just in case they are needed !

rdlover777 · 19 Mar 2020

found a video on twitter of 745005's first public service and its a ghost town

I am on the 0740 Norwich to Liverpool Street. Boarded at Ipswich. Just so happens to be 745005's first trip in public service, not that there's many public on here. Last time I caught this service it was full. I counted 17....

https://twitter.com/busandtrainpage/status/1240565097220710401

samuelmorris · 19 Mar 2020

rdlover777 said:
found a video on twitter of 745005's first public service and its a ghost town

https://twitter.com/busandtrainpage/status/1240565097220710401

It's also two posts above you!

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