Thinking of travelling to Brighton tomorrow was going to purchase a London Thameslink Super Off peak return to Brighton ticket with railcard @£9.55 and travel from Farringdon. However I see that Thameslink might be heavily disrupted due to staff shortages so considering at more than double the cost a London Terminals to Brighton off peak any permitted return. If for the return journey I happen to take a Thameslink train how far through the Thameslink core can I travel with a London Terminals ticket?
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They say journey planners will be updated by 2200 with expected cancellations. Check again at or after that time and make the choice with a better knowledge of how much it will affect you. They typically prioritise the Brighton services over, say, the metro services. A London Terminals ticket is valid as far north as City Thameslink so you would have to walk down there from Farringdon.
From what is live in journey planners already, it looks like for the bulk of the day, the Brighton - Bedford trains will run meaning 2 trains an hour between Farringdon and Brighton.
From what is live in journey planners already, it looks like for the bulk of the day, the Brighton - Bedford trains will run meaning 2 trains an hour between Farringdon and Brighton.
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Only on Sunday 31st according to their website. Of course, legally the tickets are valid anyway but I doubt the OP wants to have an argument with revenue staff on their day out.
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If you want to keep your options open, the best ticket to buy is a super off peak day return from West Hampstead Stations to Brighton. This is £11.15 with railcard, and not route restricted. It can be used at both Victoria and Farringdon, and for a journey on the underground, starting at any appropriate interchange station.
Yes, and use from Marylebone (or Baker Street).
miklcct
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Is Marylebone (Baker Street) an appropriate interchange for a West Hampstead to Brighton journey?
Of course if a ticket for Rickmansworth to London hasn't been bought yet, it is cheaper to exit the Underground at West Hampstead, walk to the Overground station to collect the ticket and reenter (either the Underground, Overground or Thameslink) using the paper ticket.
It should be as I believe Baker Street is one of the stations listed where you can make use of the underground for 1 journey in either direction.
I can't find the list right now.
This one?
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Perhaps because it was at Railcard price?
I suspect it is more that the barriers on the Southern network are set not to accept all weekend super off peak tickets.
miklcct
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I know Baker Street / Marylebone is on the list, which includes stations as far as Amersham. My question is that because Marylebone isn't on a valid route for the National Rail journey between West Hampstead or West Hampstead Thameslink and Brighton, is it theoretically allowable to start the tube journey at an interchange station which is not "appropriate to the route of the through journey being made".
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However in this case it is a non-problem because the tube fare from Rickmansworth to Marylebone or any tube station in Zone 1 is the same, therefore the tube ticket / PAYG can be used all the way to Victoria where a legal break of journey can be used to start the paper ticket portion to Brighton.
It opened the Gatwick Express gate at Victoria in the past, but after a recent update it no longer does so. It has never opened the Southern gate at Victoria, however it always open the gate at Brighton (but not at Hove) successfully. I suspect that the Southern barrier aren't configured to accept the CBA / CBB ticket codes for these tickets, as they are mainly only available on Thameslink network.
I am a frequent user of this ticket (with 26-30 Railcard discount).
That is the one. It lists Baker Street.
Yes, but it also notes 'appropriate to the route of the through journey' which is what 'miklcct' was questioning.
While the barriers will open at Baker Street and Marylebone for any ticket routed + Any Permitted, neither station is an interchange point between West Hampstead and Brighton where a passenger would change from National Rail to Underground, as there is no route from any National Rail station at West Hampstead to the National Rail station at Marylebone.
However, both Marylebone and Baker Street are on appropriate cross London routes for someone who starts their journey at a West Hampstead station.
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So if I've understood this correctly, if someone is travelling from West Hampstead to Brighton they shouldn't alight at Baker Street?
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Beighton closed in 1954 !
They can. But they would need to pay again to rejoin the Underground, as on a cross-London ticket you can end your journey, but not restart it on the Underground
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Where best to restart a Southbound journey without paying any extra? St. Pancras International?
That is what I thought was the case.
I suppose that would work, as they wouldn't know you've broken your journey at an Underground station. You'd have to walk there, though
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So, just under a couple of miles from Baker Street?