Bletchleyite
Veteran Member
Back to rail, I'm surprised not to have heard of any of Preston's roof falling off as it usually does when there's a light breeze. Has it all managed to stay up this time?
Link to this at: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-68042365
And one more at Carmont.There are fatalities on the roads every single day. Sadly this week's storms will likely result in some.
I think there's been one passenger fatality on the railways since Greyrigg in 2007, so I'm happy for them to stick with the "tied up it knots" approach.
Luckily not so severe here in the east. Apart from the very first early morning trains that were used as route provers, Greater Anglia has a mere 3 cancellations currently across the entire network.
And one more at Carmont.
What happened to the (important) meeting in Glasgow?What is the current advice on travelling tomorrow? I have an important meeting in Glasgow that I need to attend.
Probably zoom, my university lectures went online today as no Scotrail trains are runningWhat happened to the (important) meeting in Glasgow?
Strategically placed coaches and drivers at several major GA stations still just in case they are required.It does seem that the Met Office knew something that wasn't apparent from the public-facing models when keeping the east in a yellow warning rather than extending the amber. Or they got lucky
But yes, was quite gusty for a while - rather more so in Ely than the storm a few weeks ago - but nothing too dramatic. Even Ely-Kings Lynn managed to keep running to end of service, though looks like it had speed restrictions after about 1900, and GN seem to have run a 'normal' service this morning.
Edinburgh to Bathgate and Glasgow Central to Paisley Canal appear to be the first routes restored to operation in Scotland today around 10am.
First LNER southbound 1E13 13:30 to King’s Cross.Sounds like the ECML north of Newcastle should be open to Edinburgh soon.
Back to rail, I'm surprised not to have heard of any of Preston's roof falling off as it usually does when there's a light breeze. Has it all managed to stay up this time?
1S04 stopped at NewcastleI notice that the 06:15 from King's Cross has set off for Edinburgh, due to arrive at 11:15 and is the earliest planned arrival into Edinburgh today
I think the next one Tues/Wed is more of a rain event than extreme high winds.Is there another storm forecast for later in the week?
Designated Storm 'Jocelyn'. Wind and/or rain related yellow weather warnings issued (the worst of the weather expected Tuesday/Wednesday, as @adc82140 has just mentioned) with a varying impact depending on locality, but doesn't really affect London, so possibly the media won't be particularly all that fussed.Is there another storm forecast for later in the week?
Yes - Storm Jocelyn has just been named for tomorrow evening into Wednesday.Is there another storm forecast for later in the week?
Depends where you are. Up here the forecast winds speeds for Tuesday night are just as high as last night.I think the next one Tues/Wed is more of a rain event than extreme high winds.
Yes. Storm Jocelyn has been named by the Irish Met Office, bringing further spells of strong winds and heavy rain.Is there another storm forecast for later in the week?
#StormJocelyn has been named by @MetEireann and is forecast to bring strong winds and heavy rain to the UK on Tuesday and into Wednesday #weatheraware
That's true but planes have been continuing to depart towards airports that remain open, despite the disruption.
There’s a Tenerife to Edinburgh diverting to Cologne!
Aviation is slightly more resilient in these conditions because the aircraft are built to handle landing in strong winds, it has to be something super major to close an airport fully. A Boeing 737 can land in gusts of up to 35 knots/40 miles per hour, anything above that means diversion.
I think it’s also cheaper for them to make an attempt and divert rather than outright cancel the flight. In these circumstances, pilots will take on extra fuel in order to be able to safely divert.Wife's flight home last night from Gran Canaria tried to land at Glasgow, couldn't so was diverted to Liverpool (which is at least, kind of, in the same country...) And to be fair to Jet2 they arranged road transport and passengers arrived in Glasgow at around 0530 (planned arrival was 2050). What was pathetic however was the lack of information at Glasgow Airport, only after eventually finding a member of staff did I discover the plane was diverted, no updates were provided for those waiting, like me, to pick up passengers. And to add insult to injury, I then got charged £12 for parking, for a wasted journey!
What seems strange to me is that planes were still heading to airports at the height of the storm and then finding landing impossible. do the airlines not pro-actively monitor wind speeds and react accordingly?
Regarding compensation to delayed passengers, Delay Repay will apply on the railway; Wife has been offered £10 by the airline.....
Ah, the Brexit benefit that airlines are no longer required to pay compansation.Regarding compensation to delayed passengers, Delay Repay will apply on the railway; Wife has been offered £10 by the airline.....
Unless the wind speeds are consistently above the limits for the aircraft (which are reasonably high) for a sustained period then all they need is a few minutes lull between gusts to make an approach and land. In those circumstances it’s better to head for the destination and hold there to wait and see if an approach will be possible than to divert unnecessarily early. That’s why you’ll see a mixture of landings and diversions over the course of a few hours.What seems strange to me is that planes were still heading to airports at the height of the storm and then finding landing impossible. do the airlines not pro-actively monitor wind speeds and react accordingly?
Ah, the Brexit benefit that airlines are no longer required to pay compansation.