• Our booking engine at tickets.railforums.co.uk (powered by TrainSplit) helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchase! Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread!

Next Booked Working Details

GordonT

Member
Joined
26 May 2018
Messages
496
In many cases the Real Time Trains website for LNER trains into Kings Cross shows for each specific train, at the foot of the timing information, which next journey the set is booked to form. This can sometimes be a quick and useful means of confirming if late running of incoming services is potentially likely to delay your intended departure. Is this feature unique to RTT and is its availability down to LNER's willingness to facilitate its provision?
 
Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; click here to register, or click here to log in
R

RailUK Forums

Robski_

Member
Joined
9 Aug 2019
Messages
108
This information is provided in Network Rail's timetable feed at certain stations (National Rail's Darwin feed also provides this but RTT doesn't use that iirc). It's not unique.

LNER has nothing to do with it.
 

Frontera2

Member
Joined
11 Dec 2007
Messages
206
The vast majority of operators have their next working details in Darwin, C2C being the most high profile exception.
 

Horizon22

Established Member
Associate Staff
Jobs & Careers
Joined
8 Sep 2019
Messages
7,602
Location
London
This is how delays at terminus stations (as an example) work for departures; because the inbound is delayed - and after the relevant artithmetic for turnaround has been worked out - the associated train will be delayed (without manual intervention) by the approriate amount accordingly through Darwin. It is possible to "break" these associations, but that is a manual intervention to the planned timetable / diagrams for the day.
 

GordonT

Member
Joined
26 May 2018
Messages
496
Thanks for the replies. Is Darwin-sourced information accessible on any of the public facing websites?
 

Starmill

Veteran Member
Joined
18 May 2012
Messages
23,399
Location
Bolton
Thanks for the replies. Is Darwin-sourced information accessible on any of the public facing websites?
I'm not totally sure what you're asking about here - yes in the sense that just National Rail Enquiries shows it?

The vast majority of operators have their next working details in Darwin, C2C being the most high profile exception.
Sometimes it's such a lottery. Northern often does pull through associations on the east and usually doesn't on the west. It's quite annoying they don't work by default at places like Windermere.
 
Last edited:

GordonT

Member
Joined
26 May 2018
Messages
496
I'm not totally sure what you're asking about here - yes in the sense that just National Rail Enquiries shows it?
I just wondered if website(s) other than realtimetrains in public domain give a greater amount of detail re next booked working?
 

scrapy

Established Member
Joined
15 Dec 2008
Messages
2,093
I'm not totally sure what you're asking about here - yes in the sense that just National Rail Enquiries shows it?


Sometimes it's such a lottery. Northern often does pull through associations on the east and usually doesn't on the west. It's quite annoying they don't work by default at places like Windermere.
Should be quite easy to work out which set will form the next service at Windermere!
 

Starmill

Veteran Member
Joined
18 May 2012
Messages
23,399
Location
Bolton
Should be quite easy to work out which set will form the next service at Windermere!
Luckily so, just requires manual handling!

I just wondered if website(s) other than realtimetrains in public domain give a greater amount of detail re next booked working?
Ah, apologies then. Maybe as this information is sometimes viewable at realtime.nationalrail.co.uk 's internal site, but probably not because it's probably protected by the Darwin license.
 

Top