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East Kilbride/Barrhead electrification updates

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The blinkered attitude Transport Scotland, NR and Scotrail have the long term whole network decarbonisation plan in mind which needs Barrhead and beyond electrified - whether you like this plan or not doesn't matter - they have their eyes on the prize not distractions. They aren't worried about maximising local improvements (and presumably local house prices) in the short term with shiny new non-existent trains. Local councils elsewhere in the UK have self funded P&R sites for decades which is possibly why SG were surprised they were funding it.

Rail operators everywhere (GB and Europe) know they will get far better BEMUs by waiting several years, "pedestrian" leads to better outcomes over the whole asset life. (The recommendations gathering process for standards isn't complete yet let alone the standards writing process for the standards the battery and charging elements would be designed to).
The 2020 TS - Decarbonisation Action Plan (DAP) to remove DMUs across Scotland's Railway is to be applauded and the swift removal of C153s, C156s, C158s & HSTs, in particular, will be welcome news as they are wholly unsuitable for a modern, cost efficient railway operation. The problem, I see, is the preference towards mass OHL installation which is unaffordable and unachievable rather than putting greater focus and commitment toward rolling stock solutions to help deliver the 2035 target.

The conjoined GLC HL to Barrhead/ East Kilbride electrification was announced in March 2018 and then confirmed within the Network Rail's CP6 (2019-2024) delivery period. We are now faced with these lines going fully "live" in December 2025 with a token electric service on the EK line, due to lack of EMUs, more than seven years since it was first announced. I'm struggling to see how the "whole network" will be anywhere near complete by the end of 2035 given the output evidence, so far, notwithstanding the price of around £60-£65M for c.23kms of OHL - what ever happened to £1M per stk for OHL?

I still have no idea why the branch line to EK was seen as a "priority" route when continuing OHL installation south from Barrhead towards Kilmarnock would have offered better vfm and greater operational flexibility. In addition to this redirected OHL project, introducing BEMUs to run along the 7 miles on the EK branch would still allow the withdrawal of C156s and quicker emission reduction without the need for OHL installation disruption and future maintenance costs. The conversion of existing fleets, such as C380s or C385 could have offered an interim, quicker solution alongside securing EMU cascades from elsewhere to allow DMU removals by December 2025, if TS had allowed ScR & NwR to think out of the box. The growing battery technology sector within Scotland could have been used to support such developments, with obvious economic spin offs, for future larger fleet procurement projects across the GB network in the next few decades. As it is passengers will still largely travel on nearly 40 year old diesels "under the wires" due to investment being directed towards infrastructure rather than battery powered rolling stock which other GB rail operators are now rolling out.

In addition the inability to commence procurement for new EMUs, including those with on board batteries, is another example of the failings of TS/ SG to admit that de-carbonisation doesn't just mean ELECTRIFICATION! Procurement of new non-diesel fleets has been at the "starting line" for around 3 years and if it had started in 2021/22 the off lease of life expired fleets C318s/C320s/C334s plus C156s/C158s would have been possible by the mid 2020s but now passengers and ScotRail will have to put up with substandard, unreliable trains for much longer. The additional cost, diesel emissions and operational inefficiencies that will arise from not moving towards standardised fleets is puzzling, given the on-going focus on the cost of the railway, plus the rapidly diminishing supply chain to support the various 25-35+ year old fleets.

South Lanarkshire Council (SLC) has been a long standing and consistent supporter of improving access to the railway (i.e. the re-opened Larkhall line) and has been an enthusiastic partner in the Hairmyres station relocation project from day one. It's track record over the last 15 years in delivering new P+R sites at Carluke, East Kilbride, Newton & Cambuslang demonstrates previous commitments and outputs which have attracted more passengers to the railway, help reduce longer car journeys and on-going NwR/ TS budgets.

The proposed new relocated interchange hub facility to be built, managed and operated by SLC, using SPT funding, was a significant part of the local council's 2024/25 budget but it was removed without any consultation. The 2023/24 SPT capital spend is c. £52m including a commitment of £14.5m investment to local authorities. This supports Councils in their delivery of active travel and local projects, such as Park & Ride and interchange works contributing to the regional and national transport strategy outcomes.

The withdrawal of these funds, for better passenger facilities, whilst still ploughing on with expensive OHL installation shows the lack of political "joined up thinking" plus the ability to look for more radical outcomes. This will also undermine the aspirations to encourage modal shift, enhance station accessibility, deliver better rail/ bus interchange, reduce car usage and attract more passengers to the railway. As with many aspects of the delivery of transport projects in Scotland the laudable overarching commitment and high level targets will not be achieved when decisions are made for the short term and where safe thinking is prioritised.
 
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The 2020 TS - Decarbonisation Action Plan (DAP) to remove DMUs across Scotland's Railway is to be applauded and the swift removal of C153s, C156s, C158s & HSTs, in particular, will be welcome news as they are wholly unsuitable for a modern, cost efficient railway operation. The problem, I see, is the preference towards mass OHL installation which is unaffordable and unachievable rather than putting greater focus and commitment toward rolling stock solutions to help deliver the 2035 target.
Things have evolved a lot changed a lot since 2020.
The target is now 2040 not 2035. The 2020 plan still had lots of electrification post 2035, the new 2040 will be the same.
The conjoined GLC HL to Barrhead/ East Kilbride electrification was announced in March 2018 and then confirmed within the Network Rail's CP6 (2019-2024) delivery period. We are now faced with these lines going fully "live" in December 2025 with a token electric service on the EK line, due to lack of EMUs, more than seven years since it was first announced. I'm struggling to see how the "whole network" will be anywhere near complete by the end of 2035 given the output evidence, so far, notwithstanding the price of around £60-£65M for c.23kms of OHL - what ever happened to £1M per stk for OHL?
Electrification costs vary hugely based on the level of infrastructure works needed, in urban and semi urban area this tends to be higher due to increased density of roads and footpaths and will be much more expensive than average just look at bridges).
The original constructor of a line and the standards they worked to at the time have large influence on the costs.
G&SW routes tend have been better built to clearances and slightly more solidly so have historically been easier to electrify. Strathbungo - Barrhead - Kilmarnock was a joint G&SW build but EK was just a Caledonian build which have tended to be more problematic for electrification (and may have been one reason to do it early and deal with small problematic bit while working on other bits that needed more planning and new electrical supplies).
At a high level knowing who built it helps with electrification planning and construction strategies.
I still have no idea why the branch line to EK was seen as a "priority" route when continuing OHL installation south from Barrhead towards Kilmarnock would have offered better vfm and greater operational flexibility. In addition to this redirected OHL project, introducing BEMUs to run along the 7 miles on the EK branch would still allow the withdrawal of C156s and quicker emission reduction without the need for OHL installation disruption and future maintenance costs.
Agree going south from Barrhead would have made quite a bit of sense but there are also other slightly more opaque issue (like power supply) that may be less visible.
Rail battery tech (on a whole lifecycle basis) isn't there yet and it won't be for another 3-4 years.
With no BEMUs or realistic prospect thereof you couldn't use them on the EK branch and allow earlier 156 withdrawal. (It is obvious you aren't going to like this answer due to pre existing view that don't align with the real world. Lots of battery ASAP is not reality despite what you username suggests or hopes for)

The conversion of existing fleets, such as C380s or C385 could have offered an interim, quicker solution alongside securing EMU cascades from elsewhere to allow DMU removals by December 2025, if TS had allowed ScR & NwR to think out of the box. The growing battery technology sector within Scotland could have been used to support such developments, with obvious economic spin offs, for future larger fleet procurement projects across the GB network in the next few decades. As it is passengers will still largely travel on nearly 40 year old diesels "under the wires" due to investment being directed towards infrastructure rather than battery powered rolling stock which other GB rail operators are now rolling out.
Existing fleet conversion isn't a go-er at the moment especially given Siemens and Hitachi's pricing and general attitude to retrofit.
Rail battery tech is a pan-european /global development and "the growing battery technology sector within Scotland" isn't and won't be part of that because of none of the OEM electronics (the main area) or battery R&D centres is in the UK. They are located and consolidated in Germany, Switzerland and the US and that won't be changing whatever Transport Scotland does.
In addition the inability to commence procurement for new EMUs, including those with on board batteries, is another example of the failings of TS/ SG to admit that de-carbonisation doesn't just mean ELECTRIFICATION!
TS want EMUs and BEMUs from one supplier and correctly recognise that BEMUs are several years away (as do DfT TOC and ROSCO south of the border) in reality to best to sit on the fence for a while till it is obvious which manufacturers can do BEMU properly and if you want matching EMU and BEMU fleets you have to wait until the BEMU picture is clear. There is difference between procurement and delivery, the former starts with market engagement...
Procurement of new non-diesel fleets has been at the "starting line" for around 3 years and if it had started in 2021/22 the off lease of life expired fleets C318s/C320s/C334s plus C156s/C158s would have been possible by the mid 2020s but now passengers and ScotRail will have to put up with substandard, unreliable trains for much longer. The additional cost, diesel emissions and operational inefficiencies that will arise from not moving towards standardised fleets is puzzling, given the on-going focus on the cost of the railway, plus the rapidly diminishing supply chain to support the various 25-35+ year old fleets.
New EMU and BEMU leasing costs will be much higher than anything listed above so yes lower running costs but higher leasing costs. The reality is a slow build rate is optimal for SR once the 318/320s are replaced. You may not like the 334s but aren't life expired and won't be for long time yet. 158s will be around for a fair while too.
South Lanarkshire Council (SLC) has been a long standing and consistent supporter of improving access to the railway (i.e. the re-opened Larkhall line) and has been an enthusiastic partner in the Hairmyres station relocation project from day one. It's track record over the last 15 years in delivering new P+R sites at Carluke, East Kilbride, Newton & Cambuslang demonstrates previous commitments and outputs which have attracted more passengers to the railway, help reduce longer car journeys and on-going NwR/ TS budgets.

The proposed new relocated interchange hub facility to be built, managed and operated by SLC, using SPT funding, was a significant part of the local council's 2024/25 budget but it was removed without any consultation. The 2023/24 SPT capital spend is c. £52m including a commitment of £14.5m investment to local authorities. This supports Councils in their delivery of active travel and local projects, such as Park & Ride and interchange works contributing to the regional and national transport strategy outcomes.

The withdrawal of these funds, for better passenger facilities, whilst still ploughing on with expensive OHL installation shows the lack of political "joined up thinking" plus the ability to look for more radical outcomes.
TS are doing joined up thinking - just bigger picture not local microscope.
South of the border P+R have been mostly locally funded... why not north of the border???
This will also undermine the aspirations to encourage modal shift, enhance station accessibility, deliver better rail/ bus interchange, reduce car usage and attract more passengers to the railway. As with many aspects of the delivery of transport projects in Scotland the laudable overarching commitment and high level targets will not be achieved when decisions are made for the short term and where safe thinking is prioritised.
Decisions are being made for the medium and long terms but the TS frame of reference doesn't have Hairmyres as the blackhole at the centre of the galaxy around which everything revolves which obviously disappoints you.

Don't get too annoyed with TS - inflation and Rishi cancelling HS2-2a thus reducing Barnet consequentials are big culpits. Hairmyres station area improvement can easily be done later.
 

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That’s interesting about rail battery technology not being mature enough yet. I understand from what Iain Docherty has tweeted that another factor causing delay is Clyde Metro as TS has not yet decided how much of the heavy rail network will be converted to metro. The business case for Clyde Metro will take a couple of years to complete.
 

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Wiring to EK allows some return on investment before wiring to Kilmarnock would and is therefore strategically sound. If the wiring team were to continue south before dealing with the EK branch, there’d be more cash tied up which was not earning any revenue. Battery technology isn’t ready now and doesn’t have a fixed date for when it will be ready so better to build for the technology that’s available now than to wait for an unspecified time.
 

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Wiring to EK allows some return on investment before wiring to Kilmarnock would and is therefore strategically sound. If the wiring team were to continue south before dealing with the EK branch, there’d be more cash tied up which was not earning any revenue. Battery technology isn’t ready now and doesn’t have a fixed date for when it will be ready so better to build for the technology that’s available now than to wait for an unspecified time.
There are of course many more passengers who use the East Kilbride line who will benefit from the faster and cleaner electric trains. Not great numbers from Barrhead to Kilmarnock, so it's further down the list for electrification works
 

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That’s interesting about rail battery technology not being mature enough yet. I understand from what Iain Docherty has tweeted that another factor causing delay is Clyde Metro as TS has not yet decided how much of the heavy rail network will be converted to metro. The business case for Clyde Metro will take a couple of years to complete.
Clyde Metro has now been approved.
 

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That’s interesting about rail battery technology not being mature enough yet. I understand from what Iain Docherty has tweeted that another factor causing delay is Clyde Metro as TS has not yet decided how much of the heavy rail network will be converted to metro. The business case for Clyde Metro will take a couple of years to complete.
Battery technology is developing rapidly, so I agree it can't be called mature. But I'd take issue with the "yet". Battery traction is good enough now for many purposes. We are now at the stage where new electrification schemes, which will last 60 years or so, need to be designed on the basis that batterification will be widespread during their design life. Otherwise we're wasting money putting up wires in the wrong places.
 

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Giffnock Station Upgrade Works Progress. Due to the fact that there is only a 5 hr window per day for work to be carried there is still a reasonable amount of work has been carried out to platform 1, Glasgow bound side. The works start after last train from EK. then time to finish and make safe before the 1st morning train. There is an operative assisting passengers with access & egress from the much shortened platform, only the front 2 carriages doors will be opened under control. Talking to this operative it seems that the existing foot bridge will be dismantled and cut up. A new bridge will be positioned approximately where the XXX is positioned in picture #7. He believes that it will be of the new type with LIFTS. I have seen NO mention of lifts in any of the publicity blurbs I have seen so far. The temporary entrance to platform 1 has been moved from just beside the ticket office at the EK end to a good bit along the Glasgow end. I have highlighted them in color in pictures 5 & 7
 

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When building a new bridge it does make sense to provide level access, so hopefully the operative was right!
 

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There is level access, it’s just a long way round!

I wasn’t aware of lifts being planned either.

I think it has always been in the scope for lifts at Giffnock. See below article from Railway Gazette when contracts were awarded. Was in the Network Rail Published 2020 Enhancements Delivery Plan Scotland as well I believe.

Network Rail awards East Kilbride electrification contracts
https://www.railwaygazette.com/uk/n...bride-electrification-contracts/65400.article
UK: Network Rail has awarded the main works contracts for the East Kilbride Enhancement Project, which includes electrification of the line near Glasgow.

The announcement on November 22 follows the confirmation of Scottish government funding in September,

The contracts totalling £61·5m have been awarded to Story Contracting, AmcoGiffen (station works), SPL Powerlines (electrification), Siemens (signalling), WSP and the Rail Systems Alliance Scotland of Network Rail, Babcock and Arcadis Track.


The two-year project covers:

  • wiring of 22·4 single track-km at 25 kV 50 Hz between Busby Junction and East Kilbride;
  • relocating Hairmyres station as part of a multimodal transport hub with two platforms, accessible buildings and a footbridge with lifts;
  • extending the platforms and building a new accessible building at East Kilbride station;
  • building an accessible footbridge with lifts and platform extension at Giffnock;
  • replacing the footbridge and creating an additional entrance at Clarkston station;
  • construction of a new footbridge at Busby station;
  • extending the Hairmyres Loop by 1·4 km to provide a longer double track section to improve operational resilience and flexibility.
Ground investigation works are already underway, and bridge clearance works are due to take place at the end of the year ahead of the start of main construction works early next year. Electric services are scheduled to begin in December 2025.

The East Kilbride Enhancement Project follows on from the electrification of the Glasgow – Barrhead line, where ScotRail Class 380 electric multiple-units will be in use from December 2023.
 

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Giffnock Station Upgrade Works Progress. Due to the fact that there is only a 5 hr window per day for work to be carried there is still a reasonable amount of work has been carried out to platform 1, Glasgow bound side. The works start after last train from EK. then time to finish and make safe before the 1st morning train. There is an operative assisting passengers with access & egress from the much shortened platform, only the front 2 carriages doors will be opened under control. Talking to this operative it seems that the existing foot bridge will be dismantled and cut up. A new bridge will be positioned approximately where the XXX is positioned in picture #7. He believes that it will be of the new type with LIFTS. I have seen NO mention of lifts in any of the publicity blurbs I have seen so far. The temporary entrance to platform 1 has been moved from just beside the ticket office at the EK end to a good bit along the Glasgow end. I have highlighted them in color in pictures 5 & 7

It's only 1 door working on platform 1 if a 4 car service. Conductor only opens one of the intermediate doors on the front set of the 4 car.
 

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Giffnock Station Upgrade Works Progress. Due to the fact that there is only a 5 hr window per day for work to be carried there is still a reasonable amount of work has been carried out to platform 1, Glasgow bound side. The works start after last train from EK. then time to finish and make safe before the 1st morning train. There is an operative assisting passengers with access & egress from the much shortened platform, only the front 2 carriages doors will be opened under control. Talking to this operative it seems that the existing foot bridge will be dismantled and cut up. A new bridge will be positioned approximately where the XXX is positioned in picture #7. He believes that it will be of the new type with LIFTS. I have seen NO mention of lifts in any of the publicity blurbs I have seen so far. The temporary entrance to platform 1 has been moved from just beside the ticket office at the EK end to a good bit along the Glasgow end. I have highlighted them in color in pictures 5 & 7
It’s good to see they are replacing the bits of platform that were held up by some lengths of four by two.
 

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It's only 1 door working on platform 1 if a 4 car service. Conductor only opens one of the intermediate doors on the front set of the 4 car.
Thanks for clarifying that

I think it has always been in the scope for lifts at Giffnock. See below article from Railway Gazette when contracts were awarded. Was in the Network Rail Published 2020 Enhancements Delivery Plan Scotland as well I believe.
Thanks for posting this much appreciated
 

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Piling between Giffnock station and Church Road and what looks like formers for concrete foundations.


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Did they not used to use polystyrene as a former to keep the hole till they poured the concrete? (Dissolving it with petrol.)
 

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Piling between Giffnock station and Church Road and what looks like formers for concrete foundations.
The first photos has hole for the threaded rod to directly mount the mast on top so no concrete for the two pile in the first photo
 

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No indeed. Polystyrene burns with a very black smoky release. Fumes are not nice at all. Dissolving with acetone is not a bad way though. I don't like heat on new concrete anyway - spoils the properties.
My recollection is that they used four-star petrol to dissolve the polystyrene.
 

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The first photos has hole for the threaded rod to directly mount the mast on top so no concrete for the two pile in the first photo
Yes, the first two are straightforward piles. My thinking is that the second two will be filled with concrete and have threaded rods inserted to attach the masts. Clearly there will be a reason for not using piles, time will reveal all.

When they were doing Weaver - Glasgow in 1973 outside my childhood home 4 miles north of Preston, they set it on fire quite often.
I was involved in the replacement of a mast near Dalmuir in the 1970s. My recollection of the process is that a hole was made with an auger, shuttering placed around it at ground level, polystyrene inserted and concrete poured around it to level with the shuttering. Once the concrete had set, petrol was used to dissolve the polystyrene and the residue was set alight leaving a mast sized hole. The H section mast was then lifted in and concrete grout added to hold it in place. Once this had set the cantilever, insulators and wires were installed. Hugely labour intensive and took over a week to complete, no wonder they use piles wherever possible now!
 
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Yes, the first two are straightforward piles. My thinking is that the second two will be filled with concrete and have threaded rods inserted to attach the masts. Clearly there will be a reason for not using piles, time will reveal all.

A wooden template of the mast baseplate hole centres will be sat across the top of the circular steel former and heavy duty threaded rod will be inserted prior to pouring the concrete. Steel reinforcing bar may also be placed inside the steel former down the augered out hole.

Quite a few of the mast bases on the Barrhead line have been done this way, presumably because the ground conditions were not hard or stable enough to take the standard steel pile.
 

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