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F Great Eastern

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Aircoach are to withdraw the following routes from 8th April
  • 706 - Dublin Airport - Dublin - Maynooth - Athlone - Ballinasloe - Galway
  • 706x - Dublin Airport - Dublin - Athlone - Galway
They have been unable to gain a foothold in the corridor, thanks in part to the merger of Irish CityLink and GoBus.ie some while ago, who were by far the two dominant operators on the corridor, who steadily increased services to up to four buses an hour between Galway and Dublin on their various variations making it almost impossible for anyone else to compete.

CityLink have been very careful on the corridor in that they have continued to run non stop CityLink and GoBus services between Dublin and Galway under two separate licenses and brands, liveries and Ltd companies despite sharing tickets, websites and trading addresses, so technically have both non-stop licenses between Dublin and Galway despite being technically in the same ownership.

However there is some stupidity in that the only reason that the competition committee in Ireland cleared the merger was that Aircoach had agreed to start their low frequency service and some may say that that was an awful commercial move by Aircoach, since if they hadn't have agreed to do that, the merger would have most likely been conditional on one of the now merged operations foregoing their license on the corridor and making it available to someone else. In the end, CityLink got what they wanted, their biggest competitor on the corridor acquired, a very dominant position and a very weak competitor who were never going to be able to compete.

The other thing is that the way Aircoach went about this announcement was very anti-passenger. On Wednesday they contacted all the pre-booked passengers for Thursday that the services were not running for operational reasons. To allow a meeting to take place on the Thursday with effected staff, they chose to cancel the entire schedule of the 706/706x for the day. However no notice was posted on their website or on social media. This meant that walk up passengers, or those free pass holders, were left waiting by the roadside with no idea services were not running.

This comes on the back of a worrying trend for the operation, where over the last few months the coach tracker has not been on the Aircoach site and they are no longer posting cancellations on social media and there has been a real issue with lack of transparency about the reliability, punctuality of services and service cancellations, which has clearly now hit a new low.
 

Flange Squeal

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According to a few websites in Ireland Aircoach have placed an order for DAF based Irizar i6s.

After buying Plaxton Panthers for 10 years, seems just the single batch of (poorly spec'd) Mercedes Tourismos, they're already looking elsewhere.
With Plaxton having halted taking further coach orders for a year or two to allow expanded bus manufacturing, and an operator I’m associated with telling me they were given a lead time of around a year for a new Tourismo, I can’t say I’m surprised!
 

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With Plaxton having halted taking further coach orders for a year or two to allow expanded bus manufacturing, and an operator I’m associated with telling me they were given a lead time of around a year for a new Tourismo, I can’t say I’m surprised!

Anyone who had gone on the Aircoach Tourismos has given only negative feedback about them in terms of them being a cheap spec interior so I doubt too many in Ireland will be crying about them going for something else, but who knows if they will actually spec the Irizar's any better. The Tourismo is an EXCELLENT coach, but even the best coach can be let down by penny pinching spec choices.

The 12.6m Panthers Aircoach have at 53 seats are pretty average compared to what their competitors are offering, but the Tourismo's took that one step further, going up to 55 seats and a larger wheelchair area which in essence means another row has been squeezed in and the Panthers were a downgrade on what came before.

No wonder they are losing market share when the competition are ordering vehicles and removing a row of seats versus standard spec and Aircoach are adding a row of seats to their vehicle choices. Honestly Aircoach these days feels like a cattle class commuter train pack them in interior whereas the competition look like First Class Intercity.
 

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Could you post a link to one of these sources and quote the relevant part, please?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058048557/dublin-airport-bus-service-changes/p34

It has been reported over on the Irish Road Transport Users forum that apparently Aircoach have new Scania irizar i6 coaches on order.

Hopefully these are destined for the Cork and Belfast route and have a better specification to compete with DX/Citylink.

Apparently some of the order are also going to Railair service in the UK. They have traditionally used i6’s but dual axel ones with 47 seats, three rail style tables (4 seats around the table) and no toilet.

Obviously not a spec suitable for intercity service and would be odd for the airport services too. I’d assume Aircoach would spec them differently for their service.
i understood they were DAF i6 not scania
 

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Buses
Volvo B8RLE MCV eVoRa 12.9m are B28D with the following fleet numbers.

69603231D25772
69604231D25773
69605231D25774
69606231D25775
69607231D25776
69608231D25778
69609231D25780
69611231D25835
69612231D25838
69614231D25840
69615231D25841
69613231D25849
69616231D25851
69617231D25852
69610231D25861
69601231D25943
69602231D25948

Coaches
Mercedes Tourismos, believed to be the 12.3m variant (not confirmed) with conflicting reports on seating capacity depending on who you ask.

24206231D15557
24204231D15559
24207231D15561
24205231D15562
24203231D15563
24211BV72YCD
24210BV72YCE
24209BV72YCF
24208BV72YCG

updated last 4 24208-11 edited them in
 

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