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Hope Valley Capacity Scheme updates

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While the blockade is on and EMR are running only 1tph instead of 2tph from St. Pancras to Sheffield, I wonder if EMR will be able to strengthen most of their 5 and 7 car services to 2x5, or is there some reason why this won't happen and serious overcrowding will result?
The other 1tph is still running London to Derby, so together with the extra time needed at the Sheffield end there isn't really much stock freed up.
 
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When I started this thread back in 2018 I knew it was going to take a long time after all the planning that probably started in the late 1990s, but here we are and it should all be commissioned 2 weeks today. No new pictures as there's probably not going to be much more to show until after the weekend.

TransPennine have just circulated a very comprehensive explanation of the effect the 9 day blockade will have on their services. EMR will be running buses between both Chesterfield and Sheffield to Stockport, Northern from Sheffield to New Mills Central - and also New Town. (I'll be taking my car to Manchester Airport!)

We wanted to take this opportunity to keep you updated on the significant amount of engineering work which will be affecting train services between Manchester and Sheffield between 16th and 24th March and Manchester, Huddersfield, Leeds and York between 29th March and 7th April.



Due to the volume of work taking place, we’ve tried to include as much information as possible, however for specific journey details we recommend you visit the TransPennine Express planned engineering work webpage Planned Engineering Works | TransPennine Express (tpexpress.co.uk) or check our Journey Check facility: http://www.journeycheck.com/tpexpress/.



  • Hope Valley Railway Upgrade - Saturday 16th March to Sunday 24th March:


Engineering work will affect train services that run between Sheffield and Nottingham and between Sheffield and Manchester Piccadilly. This work is part of the Hope Valley Railway Upgrade, a programme of upgrades to remove bottlenecks and increase capacity between Sheffield and Manchester Piccadilly. During these works, the Hope Valley Railway Upgrade will be delivering the completion and opening of the new platform, footbridge, and lifts at Dore & Totley station. Additionally, the programme will deliver track installation and track drainage work in Dore & Totley, follow up work on the new track at Grindleford, recovery of redundant signalling equipment, and final commissioning of the new signalling system.



To keep people moving during this time, our services between Liverpool Lime Street and Cleethorpes will be split into three:

  • An hourly shuttle service will run between Doncaster and Cleethorpes. Customers will need to change at Doncaster for onward connections
  • A two-hourly service will run between Manchester Piccadilly and Sheffield, diverted via Huddersfield. It will not call at Stockport. Journey times will be increased due to the diversionary route
  • A shuttle service will run between Liverpool Lime Street and Manchester Oxford Road. Customers should change at Manchester Oxford Road for onward travel.


There will be a two-hourly rail replacement service which will run directly between Manchester Piccadilly and Sheffield. These will run in the opposite hour of the train service. The estimated journey time is 98 minutes. Between Monday 18th March until Friday 22nd March, there will be a select amount of rail replacement services which will run between Dore & Totley and Stockport at peak times. The estimated journey time is 80 minutes. There will also be a rail replacement service which will run from Dore & Totley to Sheffield at 08:05 every morning. The estimated journey time is 25 minutes.



  • Huddersfield 10-day blockade from Friday 29th March to Sunday 7th April


Network Rail is carrying out major improvement works in Huddersfield as part of the Transpennine Route Upgrade. During the 10 day blockade, the following works will be delivering:

  • Roof canopy work at Huddersfield station
  • Mining remediation works at Huddersfield and Ravensthorpe
  • The installation of a new bridge deck on Huddersfield Viaduct
  • Track work in the Deighton and Mirfield areas


As a result, TransPennine Express will not be able to run through Huddersfield station. Additionally, train services will be diverted on some parts of the network and may be running to an amended timetable, meaning journey times may be extended.



Changes to TPE Services - Friday 29th March to Saturday 30th March, Monday 1st April and Saturday 6th April

  • Services that run between Manchester Victoria and Leeds will run to an amended timetable, with journey times extended. These services will be diverted and will not run through Huddersfield, instead calling at Brighouse.
  • Services that run between Saltburn and Manchester Airport will start/terminate at Manchester Victoria, additionally calling at Ravensthorpe and Cottingley. Whilst services from Hull will start/terminate at Leeds.
  • A local stopping shuttle service will run between Manchester Piccadilly and Marsden, with a rail replacement bus service running between Marsden and Huddersfield calling at Slaithwaite. A Huddersfield – York via Castleford replacement bus will also run (limited service).
  • Rail replacement buses will operate between Huddersfield – Manchester Airport/Manchester Piccadilly and will also operate Huddersfield – Brighouse and Huddersfield – Mirfield


Changes to TPE Services on Sunday 31th March

  • No services will be able to run between Dewsbury and Manchester due to the rail improvement works. As a result, Newcastle services will start/terminate at Leeds and services from Liverpool Lime Street will start/terminate at Manchester Victoria.
  • Services from Hull/Saltburn will start/terminate at Dewsbury. Saltburn services will additionally call additionally at Cottingley, Morley and Batley.
  • A local stopping shuttle service will run between Manchester Piccadilly and Marsden, with a rail replacement bus service running between Marsden and Huddersfield, calling at Slaithwaite.
  • Rail replacement buses will run between Huddersfield – Manchester Airport/Manchester Piccadilly and will also operate between Huddersfield – Dewsbury – Leeds.


Changes to TPE Services - Tuesday 2nd to Friday 5th April

  • Services that run between Manchester Victoria and Leeds will run to an amended timetable, with journey times extended. These services will be diverted and will not run through Huddersfield, instead calling at Brighouse. Services that run between Saltburn and Manchester Airport will start/terminate at Manchester Victoria, additionally calling at Ravensthorpe. Whilst services from Hull will start/terminate at Leeds.
  • A shuttle service will run between Dewsbury and Leeds calling at Batley, Morley and Cottingley.
  • Rail replacement buses will operate between Huddersfield – Manchester Airport/Manchester Piccadilly and will also operate Huddersfield – Brighouse and Huddersfield – Mirfield. A Huddersfield – York via Castleford replacement bus will also run (limited service)


We hope that this information helps in planning for journeys over the affected period while these investment works are completed. Please use the links provided for further information and to check the status of journeys. If you have any queries, please let us know.
 

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I wonder how busy the two-hourly diverted Sheffield-Huddersfield-Manchester Piccadilly services will be off-peak (on, say, Monday 18th March)?

I'd quite like to travel on that diversion, plus the EMR Beighton diversion on the same day (I've done both routes before but diversions are always - err - "diverting" for me).
 

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I wonder how busy the two-hourly diverted Sheffield-Huddersfield-Manchester Piccadilly services will be off-peak (on, say, Monday 18th March)?
Off-peak (10:45-14:30) on a Monday should generally be okay. I would however have a look on Realtimetrains to see if they have any 6 car sets running and if so, target getting one of those.
 

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Oh joy. Sheffield Station does not cope well with everything arriving from the North through Nunnery. One of those things where it works on paper but not in real life.
 

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When I started this thread back in 2018 I knew it was going to take a long time after all the planning that probably started in the late 1990s, but here we are and it should all be commissioned 2 weeks today. No new pictures as there's probably not going to be much more to show until after the weekend.

TransPennine have just circulated a very comprehensive explanation of the effect the 9 day blockade will have on their services. EMR will be running buses between both Chesterfield and Sheffield to Stockport, Northern from Sheffield to New Mills Central - and also New Town. (I'll be taking my car to Manchester Airport!)

Thanks for all your updates.
 

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I’ve always wondered at times like this why they don’t run a Sheffield (or derby) to lime street via derby uttoxeter stoke Stockport and EMR just hire route conductors between Stoke and Stockport via Macc. It could be none stop between derby and Stockport apart from maybe Stoke.
 

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I’ve always wondered at times like this why they don’t run a Sheffield (or derby) to lime street via derby uttoxeter stoke Stockport and EMR just hire route conductors between Stoke and Stockport via Macc. It could be none stop between derby and Stockport apart from maybe Stoke.
At a guess it would be extremely difficult to timetable. It would have to fit into the existing Stockport-Liverpool slot to get through Castlefield, and with the mix of fasts and stoppers on Stockport-Stoke it's unlikely to have much spare capacity, let alone a path that joins up at Stockport. The longer journey time would also mean it didn't join up with the Norwich service at Nottingham, and even if Nottingham-Sheffield was cancelled (affecting a totally different group of passengers) the longer journey time probably means there wouldn't be enough spare units for an hourly service.

Walk-up tickets between Nottingham and Manchester are also valid via Stoke, and in the normal timetable it's possible to do this every hour northbound without being overtaken by the direct train. I'll go that way if I need to visit Manchester during the blockade period.
 

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I’ve always wondered at times like this why they don’t run a Sheffield (or derby) to lime street via derby uttoxeter stoke Stockport and EMR just hire route conductors between Stoke and Stockport via Macc. It could be none stop between derby and Stockport apart from maybe Stoke.

It'd take a lot longer, over 2 hours (assuming a decent path) between Sheffield and Man Pic via Beighton, Derby, Uttoxeter etc compared to 90 minutes via Huddersfield.
 

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Press release


Sections of the railway line between Manchester and Sheffield will be closed from Saturday 16 March to Sunday 24 March as works are carried out to complete the final phase of the Hope Valley Railway Upgrade.

This work will also affect Sheffield station, with a much smaller number of platforms available only for longer-distance trains to use. Passengers travelling from, to or through Sheffield should also check before they travel.

Upgrades include track installation and drainage work in the Dore & Totley area - the Dore South Curve extension is set to be completed, doubling the number of tracks in and out of the station to the east, whilst work on the new track in Grindleford will also be finalised.

Work will take place to complete the new second platform at Dore & Totley station, which will be linked to the existing platform by an accessible footbridge with lifts once completed. The existing platform has been extended to accommodate longer trains, creating more seats for passengers.

Passengers travelling to and from Dore & Totley between 25 March and 3 April requiring step free access should contact Passenger Assist as alternative arrangements may be required while work on the new lifts is completed.

The current platform at Dore & Totley station will become Platform 2, whilst the new, Manchester-bound platform will become Platform 1. This is to align the new platforms with other stations on the Hope Valley line.

Following the recovery of redundant signalling equipment along the route, final commissioning of the upgraded cutting-edge signalling system will take place, improving the reliability of services and signifying the completion of the Hope Valley Railway Upgrade.
 

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For the last few weeks EMR have been running route learning/familiarisation trains between Chesterfield and Sheffield via Barrow Hill and Woodhouse several times a day.
Cross Country already run services that way a few times a day as part of the normal timetable.

The learning of the Barrow Hill line by EMR may explain my sighting of a Class 170 I saw a couple of weeks ago in Sheffield I mentioned in the EMR Class 170 thread.
 

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At the public inquiry there was a lot of concern about access to and from Dore's new platform if the lift/s are out of order. It took quite a bit of time and there's been concern locally ever since.

Today TRU's news release has the following paragraph towards the bottom.

Passengers travelling to and from Dore & Totley between 25 March and 3 April requiring step free access should contact Passenger Assist as alternative arrangements may be required while work on the new lifts is completed.
 

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At the public inquiry there was a lot of concern about access to and from Dore's new platform if the lift/s are out of order. It took quite a bit of time and there's been concern locally ever since.

Today TRU's news release has the following paragraph towards the bottom.

Why not build a subway with ramps, but only have it open when the lifts are out of order?
 

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Why not build a subway with ramps, but only have it open when the lifts are out of order?

Impractical (space and close to River Sheaf that can flood) but a workable possibilty was suggested that could have been available and helpful for all at all times but was turned down on costs.
 

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At the public inquiry there was a lot of concern about access to and from Dore's new platform if the lift/s are out of order. It took quite a bit of time and there's been concern locally ever since.

Today TRU's news release has the following paragraph towards the bottom.

I would imagine in the future (if the problem isn't known about in advance) they would have to be carried to Stockport and assisted back to Sheffield from there. Quite the adventure!
 

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Impractical (space and close to River Sheaf that can flood) but a workable possibilty was suggested that could have been available and helpful for all at all times but was turned down on costs.
Couldn't they just run a fenced footpath alongside the MML passing under Twentywell Lane bridge to access the footway on the far side? Or was that the solution that was turned down?
 

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I would imagine in the future (if the problem isn't known about in advance) they would have to be carried to Stockport and assisted back to Sheffield from there. Quite the adventure!
Most of the trains calling at Dore don't go to Stockport. I guess they'd be able to cross the island platform at Chinley for a train back.
 

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Couldn't they just run a fenced footpath alongside the MML passing under Twentywell Lane bridge to access the footway on the far side? Or was that the solution that was turned down?

Yes, there's an unused arch that could be used. Project workers are doing so! Gradient would require a long double back.


I think you're overthinking this, Grindleford is step-free.

If the lift/s don't work those wanting to go west for the Hope Valley stations to Manchester will have to go back to Sheffield and double back. Yes, those coming from Sheffield can double back from Grindleford.

Few currently alight from fast westbound trains at Dore, they're at the wrong time of day. That may change in future. Anyone trapped on the new platform could catch a stopper to Grindleford and return adding about 45 minutes of inconvenience to their quick 7 minute journey.
 
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I think you're overthinking this, Grindleford is step-free.
National Rail only shows "a degree of step-free access to one or both platforms", which sounds pretty useless unless the train conductor has personal knowledge.
Surely the solution should be to contact Passenger Assist who will arrange a taxi to Sheffield. It's a short road journey.
The platform that needs the lifts will be the one for journeys from Sheffield. So there is a risk of somebody being stuck on the train to a later station, or worse still alighting and being unable to get off the platform.
 

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The platform that needs the lifts will be the one for journeys from Sheffield. So there is a risk of somebody being stuck on the train to a later station, or worse still alighting and being unable to get off the platform.

I see, thanks for that. I should have read the post more closely.
 

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Step free access doesn't mean easy access!

Grindleford has step free acess with long slopes down from the road bridge at the east end of both platforms.

Hathersage has a pedestrian underpass and slopes up to both platforms.

Bamford has slopes if you find them.

Hope has a heritage footbridge! I've seen bikes being carried across by a group of older ladies. Hard work.

Edale has an underpass but few who aren't very fit and resourceful will be going there anyway!

Chinley has a 1960s rusting steel footbridge to the island platform. There's no escape for those with difficulty using stairs.
 

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Are the meagre Transpennine services from Sheffield to Manchester Piccadilly via Huddersfield all 2x3 coach 185s? Formations are not showing on RTT (as I'd pretty much expect).
 

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