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How do they manage to produce a timetable with 2 services in one direction and 4 in the other?
Yes indeed, it does look like one of those French rural lines with hopeless timetables!They might have visited France.
Yes indeed, it does look like one of those French rural lines with hopeless timetables!
How do they manage to produce a timetable with 2 services in one direction and 4 in the other?
it sounded like the Talgo sets weren't going to be included even at that point (sadly)
I'm assuming it means they run 2 ECS to balance it?How do they manage to produce a timetable with 2 services in one direction and 4 in the other?
driver training perhaps?I'm assuming it means they run 2 ECS to balance it?
Why would you do that though, you might as well take passengers in the opposite direction if you're running the train anyway
would both directions need driver training?driver training perhaps?
Feels weird looking at a mk3 which has the interior layout of a tube train.Finally got on the train, the stations were empty and eire but clean and huge.
The trains were empty traveling in the agbado to oyinbo direction I was the only passenger on the platform at the Ikeja station. But In the other direction there were about 50 people all excited to board. In time passenger numbers will pick up. The blue line is already experiencing overcrowded at peak periods.
Agree. And I wonder how noisy the coaches are, with no end vestibule doors between carriages.Feels weird looking at a mk3 which has the interior layout of a tube train.
The major mass transit alternatives on this route is still "molue" or the NRC mass transit. Lagosians see this as flying a private jet. Only noise I noticed was that constant beeping.Agree. And I wonder how noisy the coaches are, with no end vestibule doors between carriages.
It looks like a massive improvement in what is a city with terrible traffic usually!The major mass transit alternatives on this route is still "molue" or the NRC mass transit. Lagosians see this as flying a private jet. Only noise I noticed was that constant beeping.
For whatever reason they don't let you take pictures without the permission of LAMATA. But they welded steps to fill the gap between the trains and the platforms.
Everything looks a little janky and put together, but Lagosians don't know that these is a luxury train service. With Air conditioning.
No need for perfection in what they look like, the trains are a temporary solution until proper mass transit trains are ordered and delivered.The major mass transit alternatives on this route is still "molue" or the NRC mass transit. Lagosians see this as flying a private jet. Only noise I noticed was that constant beeping.
For whatever reason they don't let you take pictures without the permission of LAMATA. But they welded steps to fill the gap between the trains and the platforms.
Everything looks a little janky and put together, but Lagosians don't know that these is a luxury train service. With Air conditioning.
There also appears to be Chinese units on order for the red line.
(At 5:32 there's a shot of a GWR WiFi sign!)My First-Class Night Train Ride in Lagos My experience aboard the first-class section of the Lagos Red Line night train was nothing short of extraordinary. From the moment I stepped into the train, I could feel the blend of luxury and efficiency. The interiors were impeccably designed with comfortable reclining seats, ample legroom, and a serene atmosphere perfect for relaxation after a long day. The air conditioning was just right, and the soft lighting made the journey soothing and enjoyable. As the train smoothly glided through the tracks, I couldn’t help but marvel at how far Lagos has come in terms of transportation. The absence of the usual hustle and bustle of Lagos roads was a refreshing change. I didn’t have to worry about traffic jams or the stress of navigating chaotic roads at night. Instead, I sat back, relaxed, and enjoyed the ride while the city lights flickered in the distance.
If you may, could you recommend an itinerary and other useful tips such as where to stay, what stations to travel to/from, flights, etc… Also, what is Nigeria like? Apologies for my ignorance and if this causes offence to anyone, but is it safe to roam around freely? Thanks in advance and also for the information you’ve already provided.Nigeria - Red Line
I visited Lagos between 8th and 13th May 2025.
The Red Line shares the Standard Gauge track with the Lagos to Ibadan trains (which was Chinese built) but the stations are not shared (except for Agbado as the Red Line station is still under construction). This set up results in an odd situation at Agege, because where the red line platform ends the Nigerian Railways platform starts (different station name though: Babatunde Raji Fashola). This means the combined platform length is about 500-600 metres!
The two sets in service are formed as follows:
43192
49101
48133
48113
49111
43009
43239
48103
48101
48125
49107
43184
The other class 43's are located around the network as follows:
OYINGBO STATION
43008, 43010, 43172, 43304
SIDINGS
43040, 43366, 43208 (I have been told this should be 43016)
Some are painted just white, others have two red stripes and one has a single thicker red stripe. The reason for the thick red stripe, was that it was going to match the Talgo set paint work.
In terms of the Talgo stock, they have the two ex-Wisconsin sets with a driving cab at one end. The idea originally was to use these with a Class 43 but that idea has been ditched in favour of a GP38-3 locomotive (coupler at different heights supposedly). They now have two of these numbered GP01 and GP02. They are found in the Red Line sidings.
The timetable consists of 3 Lagos bound trips in the morning, and 2 Agbado bound trips (plus an ECS move). In the evening it's simply 2 return trips. This is Monday to Friday only. Services in the opposite direction to peak traffic are almost empty.
They don't have a dedicated depot, but rather a small open air shed and two inspection roads (I've called this the Red Line sidings). I did however see the Lagos-Ibadan trains also use this.
Each cab has two drivers. And onboard there's numerous other staff including a guard. There's no in cab signalling, and there's no lineside signalling... It's simply a paper ticket for authorisation to travel to the next station issued at the previous station.
Orange hazard lights stay illuminated at all times. There are plenty of references to GWR in the carriages still and even the WiFi shows a connection named "GWR...". The steps on the outside of the carriage are certainly an odd addition!
Lineside wise... The tracks are full of people, with make shift housing almost on the tracks in some places. In the evening parts of the track become a full on market with food being cooked in the 4 foot! Many of the areas the train passes through are absolutely not safe.
If there are any questions, or if there's any more information anyone would like, just comment on here and I'll try to answer.
I can do all of that but not on a public forum (sorry). I've dropped you a message.If you may, could you recommend an itinerary and other useful tips such as where to stay, what stations to travel to/from, flights, etc… Also, what is Nigeria like? Apologies for my ignorance and if this causes offence to anyone, but is it safe to roam around freely? Thanks in advance and also for the information you’ve already provided.
The Lagos State Government on Thursday said it has commenced work on the Lagos Rail Mass Transit Red Line project from Agbado to Marina. Lagos State Governor, Mr Babajide Sanwo-Olu, disclosed this during the flag-off ceremony of a 37km rail route in Ikeja on Thursday. Sanwo-Olu said the project would be implemented in two phases. ”We project that the Red Line would move its first passenger in the fourth quarter of 2022. ”In addition, we are simultaneously working on bringing the first phase of our Blue Line to passenger operation, projecting that it would be in operation by the fourth quarter of 2022,” he said. He said that the construction of the infrastructure for the standard gauge Red Line, would share tracks with the Lagos-Ibadan Railway Modernisation Projects by the Federal Government.
I'm led to believe new rolling stock will make an appearance at some point. Whether that replaces what they already have, or supplements it, remains to be seen.I find it interesting that they've clearly spent an absolute fortune on new stations etc and yet are using nearly 50 year old used trains - why spend on one but not the other?
Try googling the Abuja "metro" for unbelievable choicesI find it interesting that they've clearly spent an absolute fortune on new stations etc and yet are using nearly 50 year old used trains - why spend on one but not the other?
The Abuja metro is using 4 car DMUs (they look/feel newly built). It feels more like a.suburban railway though than a metro but the difference in a lot of places in the world between metro and suburban railway is becoming very hazy. The timetable is very limited but the trips are free.Try googling the Abuja "metro" for unbelievable choices
It's using EMUs pulled by diesel locos because they haven't installed electrificationThe Abuja metro is using 4 car DMUs (they look/feel newly built). It feels more like a.suburban railway though than a metro but the difference in a lot of places in the world between metro and suburban railway is becoming very hazy. The timetable is very limited but the trips are free.
Nope. I caught the Abuja metro about 2 weeks ago and they are using DMUs.It's using EMUs pulled by diesel locos because they haven't installed electrification
The rolling stock contract for the Abuja Light Rail System was awarded to China Railway Rolling Stock Corporation (CRRC).
The initial fleet of rolling stock operating on the network comprises three trains with three rail cars each. The train set can accommodate more than 300 passengers.
Light rail vehicles are specifically designed to operate on standard gauge tracks. The stainless-steel railcars have a length of 19m and a width of 2.8m. The roof and rail are separated by a height of 3.8mm, while the diameter of the wheels is 840mm.
Electricity required for operation of the system will be supplied by a dedicated overhead contact line system. A line voltage of 1,500V DC is required for the seamless operation of the light train fleet.
The voltage range of the train sets usually varies between 1,000V and 1,800V DC, and the on-board traction has a maximum capacity of 190kW. The maximum service speed attained by the train set is 80km/h. The rate load on the axle can never exceed 14t.
Trains are currently being hauled by diesel locomotives as electrification works on the line are yet to be completed.
The initial fleet of rolling stock operating on the network comprises three trains with three rail cars each. The train set can accommodate more than 300 passengers. 1,500v DC but hauled by CRRC diesel locomotives! (source lost in time)
The DMU is tailor-made by CRRC Dalian for the Abuja area rail transportation in Nigeria. Four carriages. (source lost in time)
I won't add any more to this chat with regards to Nigeria in general, as it's definitely going off on a tangent from the HSTs in Nigeria... But Abuja has two rail services. They have DMUs operating on the light rail / metro (two routes) and they have Chinese stock on SGR to Kaduna. I was there last week!!!!!!! And spent a total of 3 days covering everything possible in the Abuja area before moving on to the next network in Nigeria. Idu is the only station where all 3 services meet. I have a lot of photos.Abuja has SGR, Metro and light rail. SGR terminates outside of the centre at a grand station served by all three. Large rolling stock maintenance depot nearby. Large as in many times greater than the rolling stock sourced thus far.
Picture 1 from Government of Nigeria press stuff, picture 2 from CRRC.
Two styles of units shown.