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Northern re-records 34 station name announcements with local pronunciation

TimSpencer

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The one that peeves me is Yorton. While waiting recently at Wem, Shropshire, an automated voice with a strong Welsh accent announced that the next train was for Shrewsbury, calling at Eerrton.
Let's be clear about this; the village is called Yorton, its pronounced as it's spelled. It doesn't need to be Welshified. It's not even in Wales.
 
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The new announcements are quite frankly ‘interesting’. It’s very poor: I was told the reason for the change was that Peter Corley was no longer willing to take any more announcements on, and the manager of the voiceover team (someone please correct me on the role name!) had decided to use his voice for it.

I don’t have an issue with the voice, but the quality is extremely low. I’ve noticed volumes vary due to the echoes that sometimes happen when announcing a station.

Additionally, there doesn’t seem to be a flow with what the announcements say. We are now approaching Station, keep your tickets handy!’ And a few seconds later, ‘The next station is, Station!’.

Quite frankly, the announcements originally voiced by Trisha whilst out of date were of much better quality. If the announcements didn’t change so often and stuck to a script that didn’t change in every voice or at different stations, as well as much better quality recordings with minimal echoey, this would make a much better experience for the passenger!

Definitely don’t think it’s a good impression…
Rant over!
Appreciate some may not agree, but does anyone feel the same way?
 

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The new announcements are quite frankly ‘interesting’. It’s very poor: I was told the reason for the change was that Peter Corley was no longer willing to take any more announcements on, and the manager of the voiceover team (someone please correct me on the role name!) had decided to use his voice for it.

I don’t have an issue with the voice, but the quality is extremely low. I’ve noticed volumes vary due to the echoes that sometimes happen when announcing a station.

Additionally, there doesn’t seem to be a flow with what the announcements say. We are now approaching Station, keep your tickets handy!’ And a few seconds later, ‘The next station is, Station!’.

Quite frankly, the announcements originally voiced by Trisha whilst out of date were of much better quality. If the announcements didn’t change so often and stuck to a script that didn’t change in every voice or at different stations, as well as much better quality recordings with minimal echoey, this would make a much better experience for the passenger!

Definitely don’t think it’s a good impression…
Rant over!
Appreciate some may not agree, but does anyone feel the same way?
I don’t understand why Northern need to change their scripts so often. Some other TOCs have used the same scripts for years, and the even the TOCs that do change their scripts semi-regularly such as GWR still manage to use the same voice over artist(s). I don’t see why they couldn’t continue using Trisha for the bits that needed updating. I suspect changing the announcements so often gives a ‘purpose’, which acts as justification for the job, which another poster mentioned earlier. Either way, the number of pointless changes to the wording for Northern suggests a rather inefficient use of resource.
 

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I don’t understand why Northern need to change their scripts so often. Some other TOCs have used the same scripts for years, and the even the TOCs that do change their scripts semi-regularly such as GWR still manage to use the same voice over artist(s). I don’t see why they couldn’t continue using Trisha for the bits that needed updating. I suspect changing the announcements so often gives a ‘purpose’, which acts as justification for the job, which another poster mentioned earlier. Either way, the number of pointless changes to the wording for Northern suggests a rather inefficient use of resource.
This actually got on my nerves yesterday and was quite a distraction.....so I disabled it
 

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David Curtis was then hired as the PIS manager
Point of order - no, that is not his job title. He is responsible for more than just the PIS, also other connected services on board the fleet.

He didn't change the script either. A certain director wanted the change to "make the announcements friendlier".
 

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Out of the geographical area but someone couldn't cope with stations with three words when they recorded the original announcements. So we ended up with: -
  • Bletchley (correct)
  • Milton Keynes (erm?)
  • Central Wolverton (so that's where the rest of MKC went)
  • Northampton (correct)

Reminds me of that well known South West London suburb, Putnibarns.

Dates from 1988, but the Clapham Junction announcement was definitely "Wandsworth Town, Putnibarns...."

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And is that 'Keithlee' and 'Fourster' in your view?

I've known "Keithley" for a good number of years now, though when I was growing up I did think it was "Kayleigh", admittedly. I've never lived in, or near, the area, to be fair.

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Or Leominster.

As an aside I always wonder about whether the American namesake towns copy our pronunciation where this is unusual.

For example is Leominster, MA "Lemster" like ours, or is it "Leo-minster" ?

Sometimes they re-spell them to match the pronunciation, e.g. Guilford, CT; Barnstable, MA.

Back to English places, is the Gloucestershire town pronounced "TEWkesbury" or is it "Chooksbury" (to rhyme with "took")? A B&B owner in the Cleeve Hill area was firm about it being the latter, and as they were a local, presumably they would know.
 
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According to Alex Hornby, theres going to be another change to the voiceover artist!
 

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Evening all. My post about the TPE announcements wasn’t to do with the automated voice but the fact that there is nothing wrong with north east platforms - it is their trains which have higher steps then normal - I assume perhaps because these trains weren’t designed for UK use? Can anyone enlighten us?
This has always confused me as well. I presume that on the Liverpool-Newcastle run there are some stations west of Leeds that do have lower platforms, but the announcement simply activates for all stations. There are certainly none on the ECML, or certainly none that LNER feels the need to point out on its basically identical 5-car Azumas! I can't remember if the same announcement is used on the 185s on the Redcar workings.

If it's also the case on Hull Trains, perhaps it's just a Class 802 thing.
 

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According to Alex Hornby, theres going to be another change to the voiceover artist!
When is that supposed to be coming?

Hopefully it's an actual professional voice artist this time & not another internal Staff Member with no Voice Over Experience
 

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Tewkesbury (/ˈtjuːksbəri/) as in ”tune”
My grandparents lived nearby and I only heard this pronunciation.

Interesting, the B&B owner was adamant that it was "Chooksbury" (rhyming with "took") and corrected me every time I pronounced it the most obvious way.
 

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Point of order - no, that is not his job title. He is responsible for more than just the PIS, also other connected services on board the fleet.

He didn't change the script either. A certain director wanted the change to "make the announcements friendlier".
Yes i am aware that Onboard Systems Service Delivery Manager is his official title. But i call him the PIS manager as that is one of the main parts of his job and he does most of what the PIS manager does at other operators that employ someone with this title. It seems these days they just love useing fancy long job titles for everyone.
 

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When is that supposed to be coming?

Hopefully it's an actual professional voice artist this time & not another internal Staff Member with no Voice Over Experience
The best voice I have ever heard is on the Málaga/Fuengirola line. It's a very simple announcement as well which just announced the actual stops
 

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Slightly unrelated but still on the theme of Northern's PIS systems.

I've noticed that Northern have removed the date and time from the interior screens on the 195s (and I assume 331s) earlier this week. I'd consider time pretty important when on a train, especially if you have a connection. It's not like it's been replaced by something else, so I'm puzzled as to why they'd remove this.
 

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Slightly unrelated but still on the theme of Northern's PIS systems.

I've noticed that Northern have removed the date and time from the interior screens on the 195s (and I assume 331s) earlier this week. I'd consider time pretty important when on a train, especially if you have a connection. It's not like it's been replaced by something else, so I'm puzzled as to why they'd remove this.
I imagine it has been removed due to the glitch where it shows a date and time years in the past.
 

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I imagine it has been removed due to the glitch where it shows a date and time years in the past.
Hmm, that's one way to "fix" it. I only experienced that bug at the start of journeys before (and sometimes just after) setting off and it would soon rectify itself. I'd much rather have that bug than no time at all.
 

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Hmm, that's one way to "fix" it. I only experienced that bug at the start of journeys before (and sometimes just after) setting off and it would soon rectify itself. I'd much rather have that bug than no time at all.
:D It’s a clock! Honestly, how hard can that be!

Unbelievable
 

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Was on a 333 with a bit of an issue yesterday, all stations on DON-LDS had an additional "the" in front of their names on arriving; The South Elmsall, The Fitzwilliam, etc ... the most disappointing Glastonbury line-up ever! :D
 

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Was on a 333 with a bit of an issue yesterday, all stations on DON-LDS had an additional "the" in front of their names on arriving; The South Elmsall, The Fitzwilliam, etc ... the most disappointing Glastonbury line-up ever! :D

Sounds like the houses on a particular poor Taylor Wimpey development
 

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Following the trend, Wimbledon has used members of staff to record the ”Out!” calls on the new automated system, not line judges.
 

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The one that peeves me is Yorton. While waiting recently at Wem, Shropshire, an automated voice with a strong Welsh accent announced that the next train was for Shrewsbury, calling at Eerrton.
Let's be clear about this; the village is called Yorton, its pronounced as it's spelled. It doesn't need to be Welshified. It's not even in Wales.

I found it annoying that TFW insist on the announcements being played in Welsh first at Hereford. Which was, at least in January, part of England.
 

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I found it annoying that TFW insist on the announcements being played in Welsh first at Hereford. Which was, at least in January, part of England.
Given that virtually all the stations served by TfW are in Wales, and their services are provided mainly for welsh citizens, then as Hereford station is managed by TfW, the default order is best maintained.
 

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Even for announcing a Hereford to Birmingham service?
Still very much a minority of recorded announcements and there are probably a significant number of welsh passengers there. Just what harm does it cause if passengers have to wait (mostly) less than a minute more to get an english announcement?
 

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