16-25 railcard Oyster PAYG fares and minimum fares: Before 0930 or 1000?

[evil_hippo]

Hi,

TfL publicity appears not to state anything on the subject of whether minimum fares have any bearing on the availability of railcard discounts on Oyster PAYG fares.

I understand that the railcard discount is not available on morning peak fares (before 0930 on weekdays). On the rail network outside of London, a 16-25 railcard is still unusable for short trips until 1000 on weekdays, because of the £12.00 minimum fare.

Does this mean the 16-25 railcard discount is also unavailable through Oyster PAYG until 1000, or do TfL begin applying the railcard discounts at 0930 without regard to minimum fares?

 

[yorkie]

On Oyster, off peak fares are discounted when you have any Railcard loaded.

There is no discount on peak fares.

Peak fares are generally 0630-0930 and 1600-1900. Check the Single fare finder as there are some exceptions.

Therefore, it is usually cheaper to use Oyster PAYG (but not when making a journey in the evening peak, if you are not doing (m)any other journeys that day)

 

[MikeWh]

echo what yorkie says. The discount applies to anything off-peak, so fares are discounted before 0630 as well as from 0930. In addition, anything after 0930 counts towards the discounted off-peak cap, so you only lose out between 1600 and 1900 if you aren't going to cap.