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A few photos from the Peloponese system (Greece metre gauge)

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Hi All,
I've travelled a fair bit around Greece, my first visit was in 1977 (a 12 year old with my parents!). We spent some time on the southern side of the Gulf of Korinth (Corinth) and I remember seeing and hearing, the wonderful Alcos chugging past on a variety of trains heading to and from Patras. I think in those days, they were painted blue, later going orange as per my avatar.
Fast forward to my marriage in 2002 when my wife Bev and I honeymooned in Corfu! This led to my wife falling in love with Greece, well the islands anyway and after several visits to various islands, I managed to persuade her that the mainland was just as gorgeous as any of the islands! Bev and I first stayed in villages to the south of Kalamata, chosen for their proximity to the railway!
Unfortunately, photos from those visits are buried somewhere on an old computer, if this topic warrants it, I should dig them out!
One fateful year, up to our eyeballs in stress from looking after my elderly and very decrepit father, we just upped and went over to a village not too far from Nafplio/n - in July!! It was ridiculously hot, up to around 46 C. but so good to get away and we both really fell for Nafplio. It was the first capital of modern free Greece after they kicked the Turks out in 1821 but a lot of it was built with Venetian influence in the seventeenth century, just like Kerkyra, the capital of Corfu!
So began our continuing love affair with this part of the world. The following year and every year since, we stayed in a small town nearby called Tolo, which is now our second home and where we would love to retire to.
So, to the photos!


I think this is called Dervenakia, it is the summit of the line between Nafplio/Argos and Korinth.


It is Dervenakia!


There are some sidings holding some interesting rolling stock here, you can also clearly see the falling gradient.


Looking towards the Gulf of Korinth.


Some of the recently relaid track.


A close up of the stored coaches.


The interior needs a good clean!


A modern Stadler DMU approaches from Korinth.


Just one passenger! The graffiti is sadly typical of trains in Greece.


On another journey, this is what greeted us at Korinth, "my" Alco!
Oh, if only I could win the lotto, then it really would be mine! Along with a few Km of track near Nafplio and I/we would be set for life! (dream on!).

Enough for now, did anyone like that?
Cheers,
John.
 
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1435 mm is to Kiato; around Patras seems to be 12 kilometers of track.
 

Tim R-T-C

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Thanks for the photos, fascinating to see these little routes clinging on to existence.
 

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Thanks for the interest guys!
As far as I know, pretty much the whole SPAP network (Peloponnese metre gauge) was expensively rebuilt in the years prior to 2010 then along came "the crisis" and in order to save money, the whole system was closed.
Now, I don't wish to discuss all the politics behind it but it was said that it would be cheaper to taxi all the passengers than run the railway!
Anyway, subsequently the main standard gauge lines around Athens and up to Thessaloniki have reopened, there certainly are standard gauge trains to Corinth but I don't know if they go all the way to Patras yet?
Apart from a couple of special "tourist" trains, the entire SPAP network remains closed, mothballed if you will. It really is a crying shame to see a freshly rebuilt railway, slowly rusting away.
If anyone can shed further light on this, I'd be happy to know more.
Cheers,
John.
 

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I visited the Peloponese in October 2014 on a special train organised by the British company PTG Tours.

At that time, (as Groningen says above) Athens Airport to Corinth & on to Kiato had re-opened as a standard gauge line, and had a regular train service (picture 6)

The only other routes open in the Peloponese with a public train service were:

Diakopton to Kalavrita rack railway (picture 24 & 37);
A short section of suburban railway in Patras (picture 62);
There were also some trains from Katakolo to Olympia via Pirgos carrying passengers off cruise ships; I'm not sure if these counted as "specials" or if they were public trains on which anyone could travel (picture 92).

I've included a couple of pictures of our special train too (pictures 186, 265, 299,310)

We were lucky enough to cover the entire Peloponese narrow gauge system including branches by train during the trip; mostly on our loco-hauled special. The only exception being Kiato to Patras which was under conversion to standard gauge. The following year (2015), I heard that a long section in the eastern Peloponese was no longer available for specials due to a landslip blocking part of the route.

I wonder what the situation is now, and if any further progress at all has been made with rebuilding Kiato to Patras as a standard gauge line?
 

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Wonderful pictures, thank you Dave!
Ah! So it was PTG tours who did that tour? I heard about it, too late but would have loved to have gone. A shame if it really can never happen again.
I really love your photo of A9101 at Nafplio, thanks!
John.
 

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With a possible visit to Greece next month. What is left of traintravel on the Peloponnese?
 

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Wonderful pictures, thank you Dave!
Ah! So it was PTG tours who did that tour? I heard about it, too late but would have loved to have gone. A shame if it really can never happen again.
I really love your photo of A9101 at Nafplio, thanks!
John.

I've just realised that I haven't uploaded a picture with our other loco in it - A9105. Top & tailed was the standard arrangement.

So here are the branch line termini of Kyparissia (picture 111) and Megapoli (176), and two at the important station of Tripoli (190 & 191).
 

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Thanks for the photos. I did Athens to Patras back in 2002, unfortunately we left Athens in the evening and it was dark before we crossed the Corinth Canal.

Did the return journey by bus along the cliff-side motorway...the railway was similarly precarious as I remember...

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We covered most of the metre gauge system in 2003 (all by DMU - managed to miss out on Alco haulage :(). Pyrgos -> Kalamata -> Tripolis -> Corinth -> Athens -> Corinth -> Patras -> Pyrgos.

At the time they were spending a lot of (mostly EU) money on building the new standard-gauge line between Athens and Corinth, and upgrading some of the metre gauge lines in preparation for the Athens Olympics in 2004 (the branch to Olympia was closed for rebuilding).

I can only find a few railway pictures taken at Pyrgos (early in the morning), while waiting for a train to Kalamata. The system looked rather more cared-for back then:

PICT0050 by ac6044cw, on Flickr

PICT0051 by ac6044cw, on Flickr

PICT0052 by ac6044cw, on Flickr

PICT0049 by ac6044cw, on Flickr

PICT0048 by ac6044cw, on Flickr
 
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