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Are Queenstown Road (Battersea) and Battersea Park not via London tickets interchangeable?

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I'm going to Battersea Park on this Saturday, and depending on the connection at Clapham Junction I may exit or enter through any of these stations. Are tickets from Guildford or beyond to either destination interchangeable?
 
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I'm going to Battersea Park on this Saturday, and depending on the connection at Clapham Junction I may exit or enter through any of these stations. Are tickets from Guildford or beyond to either destination interchangeable?
No - however a ticket to London Terminals (or beyond) would be valid at both. Both Battersea Park and Queenstown Road have ticket gates.
 

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No - however a ticket to London Terminals (or beyond) would be valid at both. Both Battersea Park and Queenstown Road have ticket gates.
I will better bring my Oyster in this case then and use it to Clapham Junction if I decide to use the other station when returning then. It's unfortunate that these two stations aren't in a station group, where stations such as "Folkestone Central" and "Folkestone West" are placed in a group which is meaningless as they are on the same line.
 

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I will better bring my Oyster in this case then and use it to Clapham Junction if I decide to use the other station when returning then. It's unfortunate that these two stations aren't in a station group, where stations such as "Folkestone Central" and "Folkestone West" are placed in a group which is meaningless as they are on the same line.
I wonder whether in practice, the gateline staff would admit a passenger at the other station.

This coming Saturday, there is a half hourly service at Battersea Park (xx04) and two trains each half hour at Queenstown Road (xx10, xx29) towards Clapham Junction. Times from Clapham Junction are xx01 to Battersea Park and xx05 and xx13 to Queenstown Road. That suggests to me that going to Queenstown Road is most likely since the time lost by waiting four minutes isn't really a big deal.
 

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I wonder whether in practice, the gateline staff would admit a passenger at the other station.

This coming Saturday, there is a half hourly service at Battersea Park (xx04) and two trains each half hour at Queenstown Road (xx10, xx29) towards Clapham Junction. Times from Clapham Junction are xx01 to Battersea Park and xx05 and xx13 to Queenstown Road. That suggests to me that going to Queenstown Road is most likely since the time lost by waiting four minutes isn't really a big deal.
I have worked out that I'll go to Queenstown Road on a 4-minute connection from platform 7 to 3 at Clapham Junction on my outward journey.

However, in the return, if I want to go to London Road and arrive just in time at Battersea Park station to take the 11:34 I will prefer to take it as it's more risky to walk to Queenstown Road to take the 11:40 (either risking a 2-minute connection at Clapham Junction, or if I missed it, a 3-minute connection at Surbiton where the following Portsmouth train catches it and overtakes it).
 

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However, in the return, if I want to go to London Road and arrive just in time at Battersea Park station to take the 11:34 I will prefer to take it as it's more risky to walk to Queenstown Road to take the 11:40 (either risking a 2-minute connection at Clapham Junction, or if I missed it, a 3-minute connection at Surbiton where the following Portsmouth train catches it and overtakes it).
Have you ever considered you may have an easier life if you planned in slightly more contingency time to your travel?
 

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Four minute connection at Clapham Junction is pushing it, 2 minutes you must be joking..
As for Queenstown Road I have been let through the barrier there with a London Terminals ticket (after a break on the outward journey) no problems. Not sure she even looked at the ticket.
 

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As for Queenstown Road I have been let through the barrier there with a London Terminals ticket (after a break on the outward journey) no problems.
Yes, that isn't contentious at all. It is a bit different from using a Battersea Park ticket at Queenstown Road or vice versa.

I doubt one would work at the other but there is no harm asking. I suspect that in the time spent discussing the matter it would be better just to go to the other station.

On a Saturday morning, prepared to run over the overbridge I reckon the OP could just about make a two minute connection from platform 5 to platform 11 at Clapham Junction if they sit in the right part of the arriving train. (Going via the overbridge, while longer, gives the opportunity to see the train on its approach and should be less crowded than the tunnel.) After all, the OP is, I think, going to and from a half marathon.
 

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Have you ever considered you may have an easier life if you planned in slightly more contingency time to your travel?
This is irrelevant here. On my outward journey, I'm taking the first train of the day from Bournemouth to Clapham Junction already. On my return journey, there is no fixed timing and I want to return as soon as possible.

There are a lot of situations I have encountered that taking the first train of the day will just make me arrive in time for my race even if unofficial connections are taken into account, especially on a Sunday when the first train starts late.
 

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A bit off topic, but I went to Battersea Park a few weeks ago, not realising the trains weren't stopping. I was directed to Queenstown Road.

The ticket I was using was a Crawley to London Victoria (not Terminals) season ticket loaded onto a Southern key card. This was accepted by the barriers, and the Key back office without a problem.
 

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Yes, that isn't contentious at all. It is a bit different from using a Battersea Park ticket at Queenstown Road or vice versa.

I doubt one would work at the other but there is no harm asking. I suspect that in the time spent discussing the matter it would be better just to go to the other station.

On a Saturday morning, prepared to run over the overbridge I reckon the OP could just about make a two minute connection from platform 5 to platform 11 at Clapham Junction if they sit in the right part of the arriving train. (Going via the overbridge, while longer, gives the opportunity to see the train on its approach and should be less crowded than the tunnel.) After all, the OP is, I think, going to and from a half marathon.
It would be somewhat ironic if the marathon performance of the OP were adversely affected by all this running around to make overly-tight connections...
 

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Have you ever considered you may have an easier life if you planned in slightly more contingency time to your travel?
Quite. I can't but help think the OP goes out of his way to discover "problems"
 

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Quite. I can't but help think the OP goes out of his way to discover "problems"
....and has an inability to learn from his mistakes when his unrealistic minimum time connections don't work. Again.

Instead we get whining on here asking why an entire country can't reorganise it's transport system to suit him.
 
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