Arriva Class 57 timings

[EE Type 3]

Make it Large Logo and I'll be happy

Going to be strange to see a 57/3 not in Virgin livery!

Aslong as they run I'll be happy

 

[The Planner]

I heard this also off a colleague which should be interesting to see. I see in the December timetable one or two are extended to exeter st davids as well.

67s and 6 or 7 coaches was the last I was told by FGW.

 

[mbonwick]

The first 57/3 has been repainted, http://www.wnxx.com/images/57315b.jpg

 

[33056]

That looks rather restrained, though I suspect some vinyls are yet to be applied.

Thought that they could have gone for something like THIS , can't even escape from Arriva Trains in Germany :roll:

 

[XTB5T]

Anyone tell me what the crack is with changing loco's, now that this working is only a single 57, where do they change the 57 at? I am on a Coast and Peaks in a couple of weeks!

Ta

 

[laseandre]

I think the loco runs round to the other end of the train at Holyhead and Cardiff, in between trips.

 

[TGVDUDE]

i'm gonna see this tommorrow!

 

[Oakdale]

I am going to North Wales for a few days from the South Coast, are the 57's running between Cardiff and Holyhead these days?

Regards John

 

[craig87034]

I am going to North Wales for a few days from the South Coast, are the 57's running between Cardiff and Holyhead these days?

Regards John

Yep 57's booked on 0532 Holyhead-Cardiff and 1615 Cardiff-Holyhead

 

[37401]

I am going to North Wales for a few days from the South Coast, are the 57's running between Cardiff and Holyhead these days?

Regards John

http://class-57.net46.net/1_2_Current-Passenger-Workings.html

Calls at:

HOLYHEAD 05:32
BANGOR 06:00 06:02
LLNDUDNOJ 06:19 06:21
RHYL 06:34 06:36
FLINT 06:51 06:52
CHESTER 07:06 07:08
CREWE 07:31 07:35
SHREWSBRY 08:08 08:10
NEWPORT 09:40 09:42
CARDIFCEN 09:58



CARDIFCEN 16:15
NEWPORT 16:29 16:31
CWMBRAN 16:40 16:41
ABERGAVNY 16:54 16:55
SHREWSBRY 18:07 18:09
CREWE 18:44 18:46
CHESTER 19:08 19:10
FLINT 19:23 19:24
RHYL 19:40 19:42
LLNDUDNOJ 19:54 19:56
BANGOR 20:12 20:14
HOLYHEAD 20:44

Should be 57313 today as that was the only 57 up at Holyhead over the weekend
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Anyone tell me what the crack is with changing loco's, now that this working is only a single 57, where do they change the 57 at? I am on a Coast and Peaks in a couple of weeks!

Ta

Other 57 was DIT as 57s cant work in multi, getting rid of the other one means the leading one has less weight to pull and can accelerate faster and so on, 57 runs round at Cardiff and Holyhead

 

[4SRKT]

Why doesn't the Holyhead > Cardiff train call at Colwyn Bay, surely the most important intermediate station between the Junction and Chester?

 

[krus_aragon]

Why doesn't the Holyhead > Cardiff train call at Colwyn Bay, surely the most important intermediate station between the Junction and Chester?

It looks like the southbound was drawn up to stop at one station per county only (and also skip Hereford). You could argue that it should stop at the Bay rather than the Junction, but I wouldn't expect it to do both.

I would argue that Rhyl is a far more major station on the LLJ-CTR stretch than Colwyn Bay, though.

 

[4SRKT]

It looks like the southbound was drawn up to stop at one station per county only (and also skip Hereford). You could argue that it should stop at the Bay rather than the Junction, but I wouldn't expect it to do both.

I would argue that Rhyl is a far more major station on the LLJ-CTR stretch than Colwyn Bay, though.

I would expect it to stop at stations where reasonable traffic is offering, not according to such random ideas as one per county. You might as well say you'll only stop at stations that have names with more than 8 letters in or something.

 

[Oakdale]

Thanks for the info and times.

Regards John

 

[merlodlliw]

I would expect it to stop at stations where reasonable traffic is offering, not according to such random ideas as one per county. You might as well say you'll only stop at stations that have names with more than 8 letters in or something.

There as been a lot of chatter about this train "Geralds Wag Express" it was
set up as a political venture, The Ministers idea wanted one stop in each of the
Counties, Hence.
Holyhead (Yns Mon)
Bangor (Gwynedd)
Junction (Conwy)
Rhyl (Denbighshire)
Flint (Flintshire)

He caught a lot of flack leaving out Wrexham the largest town in North Wales and Hereford which is a Welsh franchise station. The train is heavily subsidised and carries few 1st class passengers average 5, the logic behind the idea is to bring North & South together, passengers were never taken into account on this venture.

On another point, Wagair starts again next week,again a political idea. a Manx Company have taken it over until Dec, they use a small light aircraft,
The last outfit went bust taking with it £800K of taxpayers subsidy paid by Wag, I understand to get another Company interested in the once daily Mon/Fri
flight Anglesey to Rhoose & Return the £1M plus subsidy as been exceeded,

 

[TheWalrus]

I would argue that Rhyl is a far more major station on the LLJ-CTR stretch than Colwyn Bay, though.

Agreed.

 

[4SRKT]

Agreed.

Maybe it is, but it's not really the point I was trying to make.

 

[Multiple Unit]

Hi guys, for anyone whos interested:

Arriva Trains Wales "Premier Train"
Class 57/3 + Mk2 BSO + Mk2 TSO + Mk2 TSO + Mk3a RFM + Class 57/3

1V31 runs SX from 15/12/08 to 15/05/09
HOLYHEAD 05:32
VALLEY PASS 05:38
GAERWEN PASS 05:51
LLANFRPWL PASS 05:53
MENAI BDG PASS 05:55
BANGOR 06:00 06:02
PENMAENMR PASS 06:12
LLNDUDNOJ 06:19 06:21
COLWYNBAY PASS 06:25
RHYL 06:34 06:36
HOLYWELLJ PASS 06:47
FLINT 06:51 06:52
RKLFFHALL PASS 06:55
SALTNEYJN PASS 07:04
CHESTERSJ PASS 07:05
CHESTER 07:06 07:08
BEESTNCSL PASS 07:20
CWESTLWKS PASS 07:27
CREWE 07:31 07:35
GRESTY LN PASS 07:38
NANTWICH PASS 07:42
WRENBURY PASS 07:46
PREES PASS 07:54
WEM PASS 07:57
HARLESCOT PASS 08:04
SHREWSBRY 08:08 08:10
SUTTONBJN PASS 08:13
DORRINGTN PASS 08:19
MARSHBKLC PASS 08:27
CRAVENARM PASS 08:31
BROMFIELD PASS 08:36
WOOFERTON PASS 08:41
LEOMINSTR PASS 08:45
MORTONOLG PASS 08:52
SHELWICKJ PASS 08:56
HEREFORD PASS 08:58
TRAM INN PASS 09:05
PONTRILAS PASS 09:10
ABERGAVNY PASS 09:20
LITMILLJN PASS 09:26
MAINDEENJ PASS 09:36
MAINDEEWJ PASS 09:38
NEWPORT 09:40 09:42
EBBW JN PASS 09:45
MARSHFLD PASS 09:51
CARDIFCEN 09:58

1W91 runs SX from 15/12/08 to 15/05/09
CARDIFCEN 16:17
MARSHFLD PASS 16:24
EBBW JN PASS 16:26
NEWPORT 16:29 16:31
MAINDEEWJ PASS 16:32
MAINDEENJ PASS 16:33
CWMBRAN 16:40 16:41
LITMILLJN PASS 16:47
ABERGAVNY 16:54 16:55
PONTRILAS PASS 17:06
TRAM INN PASS 17:10
HEREFORD PASS 17:19
SHELWICKJ PASS 17:21
MORTONOLG PASS 17:23
LEOMINSTR PASS 17:30
WOOFERTON PASS 17:35
BROMFIELD PASS 17:41
CRAVENARM PASS 17:45
MARSHBKLC PASS 17:51
DORRINGTN PASS 17:59
SUTTONBJN PASS 18:05
SHREWSBRY 18:07 18:09
HARLESCOT PASS 18:13
WEM PASS 18:20
PREES PASS 18:23
WRENBURY PASS 18:32
NANTWICH PASS 18:38
GRESTY LN PASS 18:43
CREWE 18:44 18:46
CWESTLWKS PASS 18:49
BEESTNCSL PASS 18:57
CHESTER 19:08 19:10
CHESTERSJ PASS 19:11
SALTNEYJN PASS 19:13
RKLFFHALL PASS 19:20
FLINT 19:23 19:24
HOLYWELLJ PASS 19:29
RHYL 19:40 19:42
COLWYNBAY PASS 19:51
LLNDUDNOJ 19:54 19:56
PENMAENMR PASS 20:03
BANGOR 20:12 20:14
MENAI BDG PASS 20:17
LLANFRPWL PASS 20:19
GAERWEN PASS 20:22
VALLEY PASS 20:35
HOLYHEAD 20:44

(Am not sure if in correct area, mods please move if necessary!!!)

Do theese Still run ?

 

[anthony263]

Do theese Still run ?[/Q

yes

 

[4SRKT]

Will it still run in the new timetable?