Arriva Southend

[upasalmon]

The current London Omnibus TS news has details of Arriva triangular bus swap. E400s to move from Gillingham to Yorkshire, displacing 20 newer E400s for Leicester,displacing mid life Volvo B9s for Gillingham. This begs the ?,:what if Gillingham or Southend want to set up an LEZ?

 

[Robertj21a]

The current London Omnibus TS news has details of Arriva triangular bus swap. E400s to move from Gillingham to Yorkshire, displacing 20 newer E400s for Leicester,displacing mid life Volvo B9s for Gillingham. This begs the ?,:what if Gillingham or Southend want to set up an LEZ?

I'm sure that's not correct.

 

[buslad1988]

The current London Omnibus TS news has details of Arriva triangular bus swap. E400s to move from Gillingham to Yorkshire, displacing 20 newer E400s for Leicester,displacing mid life Volvo B9s for Gillingham. This begs the ?,:what if Gillingham or Southend want to set up an LEZ?

LEZ’s aren’t just introduced with a few weeks/months notice. It’s usually years.

Yes it’s not ideal what’s taking place but had it not been for covid-19 no doubt Arriva would have ordered new vehicles. Alas First have also found themselves in a similar circumstance in Leicester.

Leicester council are clearly keen to push on with their plans despite most local authorities postponing such schemes in the short term due to the current economic climate.

 

[Andy Pacer]

I'm sure that's not correct.

It is correct, it's in the process of happening. Except that its B9/Olympus moving south to Leicester.

The current London Omnibus TS news has details of Arriva triangular bus swap. E400s to move from Gillingham to Yorkshire, displacing 20 newer E400s for Leicester,displacing mid life Volvo B9s for Gillingham. This begs the ?,:what if Gillingham or Southend want to set up an LEZ?

Then they will probably get some more new buses!

The current London Omnibus TS news has details of Arriva triangular bus swap. E400s to move from Gillingham to Yorkshire, displacing 20 newer E400s for Leicester,displacing mid life Volvo B9s for Gillingham. This begs the ?,:what if Gillingham or Southend want to set up an LEZ?

Slightly incorrect, there are 15 Volvo B9/Olympus (Yorkshire 1800-15) heading to Leicester to become 4100-15 there. The first 4 are already in service.

 

[Robertj21a]

It is correct, it's in the process of happening. Except that its B9/Olympus moving south to Leicester.


Then they will probably get some more new buses!


Slightly incorrect, there are 15 Volvo B9/Olympus (Yorkshire 1800-15) heading to Leicester to become 4100-15 there. The first 4 are already in service.

Not 20 then.

 

[Andy Pacer]

Not 20 then.

No, the other 5 are made up with 5 x E400MMC from Gillingham (ie not part of the 3 way swap). The first two of those arrived in Leicester early last week.

 

[duncombec]

No, the other 5 are made up with 5 x E400MMC from Gillingham (ie not part of the 3 way swap). The first two of those arrived in Leicester early last week.

Also not correct, as there are only 4 E400MMC at Gillingham (6517-20).

 

[gka472l]

Also not correct, as there are only 4 E400MMC at Gillingham (6517-20).

It appears 6529 (the sole Sapphire one which was at Southend) went to Leicester with 6517.

 

[EnviroExplorer]

Also not correct, as there are only 4 E400MMC at Gillingham (6517-20).

The 5th is former 6529 which was formerly based at Tunbridge though was new to Hemel

 

[cnjb8]

LEZ’s aren’t just introduced with a few weeks/months notice. It’s usually years.

Yes it’s not ideal what’s taking place but had it not been for covid-19 no doubt Arriva would have ordered new vehicles. Alas First have also found themselves in a similar circumstance in Leicester.

Leicester council are clearly keen to push on with their plans despite most local authorities postponing such schemes in the short term due to the current economic climate.

It is correct, it's in the process of happening. Except that its B9/Olympus moving south to Leicester.


Then they will probably get some more new buses!


Slightly incorrect, there are 15 Volvo B9/Olympus (Yorkshire 1800-15) heading to Leicester to become 4100-15 there. The first 4 are already in service.

With DB wanting to sell Arriva, not a lot of new vehicles would arrive anyway.

 

[JL1]

I have heard the 58 reg Enviro 400's from Maidstone will be going to Yorkshire displacing buses to Leicester.

 

[Robertj21a]

I have heard the 58 reg Enviro 400's from Maidstone will be going to Yorkshire displacing buses to Leicester.

That's been ongoing for some time now.

 

[stuart81]

Is any of this actual news or just Internet wibble?

 

[duncombec]

Is any of this actual news or just Internet wibble?

It is now actual news. Vehicles are moving - or at least were before the announcement of Tier 4 restrictions in Kent.

How much of the news is actual news, and how much is still changeable/yet to be finalized, remains to be seen!

 

[upasalmon]

This topic is about Arriva Southend but my info came from the London Omnibus Traction Society .
As Southend is playing no part in these changes I will say no more.

 

[Andyh82]

Is any of this actual news or just Internet wibble?

Yes it’s actually happening as we speak this week

Some Maidstone E400s are now in service in Yorkshire and some Yorkshire Olympuses are now in service in Leicester.

I don’t know how the deliveries are taking place but with them coming up north from Kent I hope they are Covid secure!

 

[JL1]

This from LOTS yesterday:

"The big swap within Arriva turned out to be more complicated. In one exercise, 5 x E400s from Kent went to Leicester and 5 x Volvo B9TL/ Geminis came the other way. In the second exercise another 16 x E400s went from Kent to Yorkshire (Dewsbury), 16 x B9TL/East Lancs from Yorkshire to Leicester and 16 x B7TL/Geminis from Leicester to Kent. There is an additional handful of single-deck swaps (to be determined)."

I know a couple of Solo's have gone to Tunbridge Wells but does has anyone heard anything about any other single decker swaps? The only thing i have heard is the Pulsars mite be leaving Southend for Kent.