Czesziafan
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Great shot. I'm guessing the centre "roads" have been reinstated since then?
Ah, I didn't realise that, it just seemed there was quite a wide gap between running lines that suggested there was. Thanks for the clarificationThere were never any middle roads at Taplow station - simply up and down main and relief lines. The curve through the station was eased during track relaying in 1978. What is most poignant is that this scene has changed for ever with overhead wires and catenary posts, whilst the GWR 1884 footbridge near the country end has been demolished and replaced with a contemporary monstrosity. All traces of the old GWR have been erased.
If only she had been preserved. However appreciate the sale contract with BR meant that wouldnt happen.
As an aside , wonder if a class 47 body shell could be used to recreate a sister
Or even be procured..?Unlikely, its a stressed skin body, you'd have a hell of a job cross bracing and strengthening it - thats if the two Maybachs plus assorted gubbins could actually fit inside
I think what appears to be a gap between tracks is actually a platform surface (the photographer has taken a low vantage point). The white edge almost lines up with the track the train is on.Ah, I didn't realise that, it just seemed there was quite a wide gap between running lines that suggested there was. Thanks for the clarification
DefinitelyI think what appears to be a gap between tracks is actually a platform surface (the photographer has taken a low vantage point). The white edge almost lines up with the track the train is on.
The surface is the old style the GWR was fond of, a grey slate tile with a diamond pattern pressed into it. I presume that's long gone. The photographer is indeed standing close to the Up Main side of the central island platform.I think what appears to be a gap between tracks is actually a platform surface (the photographer has taken a low vantage point). The white edge almost lines up with the track the train is on.
BRCW went bankrupt
also that she sounded very similar to a Western.
Which is why it was allocated to the WR (although it initially ran on the ECML), and to a depot, Bristol Bath Road, which had both diesel-electric (so not Laira) and Maybach engine locos, and being an oddball was used on turns where the same limited set of crews who signed it did out-and-back turns.Not too surprising as she was powered by the same Maybach diesel engines![]()
Ah so it is, silly me!Definitely
You will notice in the photo the loco is just about to strike the GWR-style ATC ramp between the rails, for the signal ahead. This was a forerunner of AWS but had some additional features. The ramp was physically struck by the shoe under the loco, if it was energised you got the bell, if not you got the hooter and the brake application until cancelled. On 4-aspect lines, as here, it could actually give a hoot if red or single yellow (ramp dead), a double intermittent hoot if double yellow (ramp polarised south), and a bell if clear (ramp polarised north), something AWS can't do. This was developed by the GWR at the end of their time and of course applied initially to steam locos.
The surface is the old style the GWR was fond of, a grey slate tile with a diamond pattern pressed into it. I presume that's long gone. The photographer is indeed standing close to the Up Main side of the central island platform.
I always thought that Falcon won the prototype loco competition between builders a bit unfairly. Brush devised a twin engine (not favoured) high speed engine (not favoured) loco, with electric transmission but with two small generators, which I don't think anyone else ever did. It's competitor Lion by BRCW had one large Sulzer (favoured) medium speed (favoured) engine, with one large generator. The competition result was that Brush were announced the winners, and got the huge order for the Class 47, but it was to be built to the now proven Lion design. BRCW went bankrupt.
Lovely photo. Thanks for posting it.And here is the double-headed up Swansea express blasting through on the up main. An unorthodox angle but it clearly shows the XP64 stock with a newly repainted mark 1 BSK at the rear. The figures on the platform are my mother and me. At the right in the distance is the goods shed containing preserved prairie tank 6106. This was an original Brunel designed wooden broad gauge structure built in 1838, and sadly demolished not long after this shot was taken. View attachment 65986
Yes it is the up relief, isn't it - which it has only taken me 53 years to notice! Thanks for pointing that out. Looking at the WTT the 1A22 was due to pass Maidenhead at 11.07 1/2, closely followed by 1A24, the 08.20 from Swansea at 11.14 1/2. This train was on a Special timing and the WTT specifies: "worked by two 1750 h.p. Diesel-Electric Locomotives 100mph where specially authorised." This was the WR's experimental use of re-geared class 37's on certain crack services in the summer of 1966. I suspect that either the up Bristol was running late or the Swansea early so that the Bristol was switched to the up relief to clear the road for the Swansea train.
I had 2 runs behand Falcon but was too young to appreciate the significance of the motive power at the business end. I do remember she was fast, and also that she sounded very similar to a Western.
.... This was the WR's experimental use of re-geared class 37's on certain crack services in the summer of 1966. ...
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I've written previously about us taking the Motorail in 1966 from Newton-le-Willows to Newton Abbot. Early evening on the return we were stopped for signals just short of the junction at Patchway, and waited. Then the double-headed Class 37 express hammered round from Stoke Gifford, and shot off towards the Severn Tunnel. We restarted, and an up dmu from Cardiff to Bristol which had been held the other side of the junction then came on as well. Clearly they were services not to be messed with. Although it was then found that one Western was just as capable. ... .
It was these speed runs that sounded the death knell for the hydraulics
Didn't realise the re-gearing story was a myth. I did hear that someone high up on the WR banned further use of the double headed 37s but don't know if that's true. Of course they did use Warships in pairs a couple of years later tut if my memory serves me right as often as not the rostered turns had a single Warship or Western instead of the double header. In 1969 loads on the West of England services were reduced by abandoning portions for Torbay and Cornwall in the same train, so that a single class 52 was perfectly able to cope.
Put Motorail into the search with my username; it comes up at several places. One day I'll gather it all in one place.I'd like to read about that Motorail journey: can you tell me which thread its on please?
The Warships problem was hunting at speed (something the comparable B-B Hymeks were notably free of). When first introduced they did 100mph on the Bristolian, such a wild ride they were soon knocked down to 90mph maximum, and then 80mph. But when they were put in pairs on the fastest Riviera and Golden Hind they were allowed at 90mph again - for a while. Taunton crews said the worst stretch was the curving descent from Savernake down to Newbury, where they would set up a real oscillation, and there were other places as well, like through Totnes, where they would bucket around. ... .