Fantasy Crossrail: Farringdon to King's Cross St Pancras

[Bald Rick]

Why couldn't you put a travelator in a trench under Phoenix Road and Brill Place?

Presumably there's a sewer, gas and electric lines there at the moment.

And the northern line at the Euston end, Thameslink at the St P end.

 

[Basil Jet]

Presumably there's a sewer, gas and electric lines there at the moment.

The entire corridor is about 12 or 13 metres wide. I'd be surprised if there weren't room for a pair of travolators

And the northern line at the Euston end, Thameslink at the St P end.

So cross those two roads on foot.

 

[Bald Rick]

The entire corridor is about 12 or 13 metres wide. I'd be surprised if there weren't room for a pair of travolators

So cross those two roads on foot.

two things then:

1) how do you build a pair* of travelators below ground, in particular access to them?
2) how attractive will it be to walk out of the station, then a few hundred metres north, then cross the road on the level, then another 30 or so metres along another road, then down to subway level, then eventually getting on a travelator? Before coming up the other end and having to cross another busy road and walking another 30 metres or so at street level…. Compared to walking a shorter route?

 

[greyman42]

WCML to ECML/Eurostar will be easier to walk between Euston and St Pancras or King's Cross than any transfer, especially if they do improve Phoenix Road.

What do you mean by improve Phoenix Road?

 

[zwk500]

What do you mean by improve Phoenix Road?

Phoenix Road and Brill Place connect Euston to St Pancras in a straight line, about 100m north of Euston Road. As part of HS2 there is a report (There's a thread on here about it somewhere) that outlined a number of options to landscape the road to give priority to the walking route.

Here's one thread: https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/connecting-euston-and-kings-cross-after-hs2-completion.200339/
Here's another: https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/hs2-hs1-on-foot.226671/
And here's the 2015 report: https://content.tfl.gov.uk/hs2-phoenix-road-urban-study-tfl-2015.pdf

 

[Western Sunset]

All you need to do is dismantle the (now unsponsored) cable car across the Thames and re-erect it between Euston and KX. No need for any expensive underground work. Simple!

 

[Basil Jet]

All you need to do is dismantle the (now unsponsored) cable car across the Thames and re-erect it between Euston and KX. No need for any expensive underground work. Simple!

That's overkill, mate, the catapult and cushion have been invented.

 

[Western Sunset]

Or a monorail? Think Springfield has a spare one...

 

[CBlue]

They'll need extra stock for this Kings Cross spur of course - shouldn't have scrapped the 332s and 365s should they?

 

[BayPaul]

There's a cheaper, easier and more practical solution for the OP... Simply extend the ECML and MML to Farringdon. I'm sure you'd need to demolish only around 5% of London....

 

[Bald Rick]

There's a cheaper, easier and more practical solution for the OP... Simply extend the ECML and MML to Farringdon. I'm sure you'd need to demolish only around 5% of London....

already done….

 

[D365]

Building a short extension would be harder than an entirely new line? How?

Thameslink already has a path between the two. In fact, maybe connect the two lines if it's too much work to build a new line.

Building in a flying junction between two running lines IS more difficult. And then explain to me how you’re going to serve Paddington to Tottenham Court Road with only 12tph.

thank goodness that your thread title states ”fantasy”!