Curious fare to "RAVENG/ESK RLWY"

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Does anyone have any details of what this might be? (Offpeak return £16.40)

It seems really strange as an offpeak return Drigg to Ravenglass is only £3.40 but a return trip on the R@ER is £24.00

 

[MrJeeves]

It looks like a combined fare for mainline and heritage railway. A fair few of these exist, and wete typically implemented to encourage travel to the heritage railway by, well, rail.

You can similarly buy tickets for the Spa Valley Railway from Eridge or Tunbridge Wells West from a ticket office, if you already hold a ticket to either Eridge or Tunbridge Wells, at a discounted price to the return ticket for the heritage line alone.

I'm sure that the intention isn't for it to be cheaper than the fare just for the heritage line. I assume noone has touched the pricing for years after they were added

 

[jumble]

It looks like a combined fare for mainline and heritage railway. A fair few of these exist, and wete typically implemented to encourage travel to the heritage railway by, well, rail.

You can similarly buy tickets for the Spa Valley Railway from Eridge or Tunbridge Wells West from a ticket office, if you already hold a ticket to either Eridge or Tunbridge Wells, at a discounted price to the return ticket for the heritage line alone.

I'm sure that the intention isn't for it to be cheaper than the fare just for the heritage line. I assume noone has touched the pricing for years after they were added

Thanks
We are going on the coming bank holiday but unlike other loopholes we wont be using it as it will possibly not be valid on 150th Gala weekend and I don't intend to find out and also I want hop on hop off
We also don't want to try and shaft a preserved railway as of course if too many people did this then going forward there would very possibly not be a railway to visit

 

[Haywain]

I'm sure that the intention isn't for it to be cheaper than the fare just for the heritage line.

That is often the case though. In many cases the heritage line tickets are day rovers whereas the through tickets are simple returns.

 

[jumble]

That is often the case though. In many cases the heritage line tickets are day rovers whereas the through tickets are simple returns.

But not R@ER it seems
They are normally mandating pre booked fixed times so I wonder what happens if you rock up with that ticket and the trains are all full ( well actually I can guess but it seems a good way of creating conflict)

 

[Haywain]

On the other hand they offer reduced fares for local residents, so perhaps see buying a ticket from a local stations as part of that.

 

[jumble]

On the other hand they offer reduced fares for local residents, so perhaps see buying a ticket from a local stations as part of that.

It is still cheaper to buy the combined ticket at £16.40 vs £18.00 and the resident pass requires proof via a driving license /council tax bill
The residents pass is only available for customers living in LA7-LA23 and all CA postcodes.

 

[Mcr Warrior]

It is still cheaper to buy the combined ticket at £16.40 vs £18.00 and the resident pass requires proof via a driving license /council tax bill
The residents pass is only available for customers living in LA7-LA23 and all CA postcodes.

And even cheaper for Railcard holders, even if when factor in any applicable £12 minimum fare requirements for travel pre-10 a.m.

 

[Haywain]

It is still cheaper to buy the combined ticket at £16.40 vs £18.00 and the resident pass requires proof via a driving license /council tax bill
The residents pass is only available for customers living in LA7-LA23 and all CA postcodes.

In which case I have no idea - I was just making suggestions!

 

[jumble]

As an academic aside none of the ticket selling sites I have looked at can find an itinerary for a day trip from DRI to RER so I suspect this ticket does not actually exist unless anyone knows better
Nationalrail thinks RER does not exist full stop
I must try a ticket office some time

 

[janb]

DRI to RER exists.

CDR £16.40
SDR £17

 

[Mcr Warrior]

I must try a ticket office some time

Can definitely get through tickets to Ravenglass/Eskdale Railway from manned ticket offices and/or Northern TVMs, but only ever as a destination, and normally only as day returns from many origins in North West England. In addition, Anytime Short Returns and Off Peak Returns do seem to be available from places further afield, such as Yorkshire, presume these allow return travel on La'al Ratty on a subsequent day. Availability of through tickets might possibly depend on Northern (or TPE) being the fare setter.

 

[185143]

Could it be subsidised by the Local Authority/Northern to encourage people to use the train to and from Ravenglass and then indirectly promote the Cumbrian Coast Line as well?

There are, or at least have been, others out there where it's cheaper to buy a through ticket with publicity explicitly saying it's a day rover rather than just a return. I assume the heritage railways in question record that a through ticket has been used and then get the fare setter to cough up?

 

[philthetube]

Ronaldsway Halt on the Isle of Man Railway - short stroll to the airport. Where else can you make an international connection by steam train?

Can definitely get through tickets to Ravenglass/Eskdale Railway from manned ticket offices and/or Northern TVMs, but only ever as a destination, and normally only as day returns from many origins in North West England. In addition, Anytime Short Returns and Off Peak Returns do seem to be available from places further afield, such as Yorkshire, presume these allow return travel on La'al Ratty on a subsequent day. Availability of through tickets might possibly depend on Northern (or TPE) being the fare setter.

Also available to buy on Northern trains, and, if I remember correctly at a priv rate.

(don't bite my head off if I am wrong)

 

[TrainTraveler]

I've got a trip to the Ravenglass and Eskdale (with the coastal train ride) on my list for the summer.

I've been looking at one of the rovers (Cumbria Day Ranger probably) for the national rail part and so a "through" ticket has less advantage, however the potential of a raicard discounted ticket seems to exist without actually having any part of the ticket covering travel on national rail.

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It seems to offer a return trip on the Ravenglass and Eskdale for £13.00 (although it's effectively a "standby" ticket as you will be offered the next available train).

Is there some massive flaw I haven't spotted?

 

[lyndhurst25]

I've got a trip to the Ravenglass and Eskdale (with the coastal train ride) on my list for the summer.

I've been looking at one of the rovers (Cumbria Day Ranger probably) for the national rail part and so a "through" ticket has less advantage, however the potential of a raicard discounted ticket seems to exist without actually having any part of the ticket covering travel on national rail.

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It seems to offer a return trip on the Ravenglass and Eskdale for £13.00 (although it's effectively a "standby" ticket as you will be offered the next available train).

Is there some massive flaw I haven't spotted?

I don’t think that it is legitimate to buy a Ravenglass to R&ER National Rail ticket on its own. That fare probably exists to allow ticket offices to provide through tickets from origins from which no through fare exists, by selling it along with a ticket to Ravenglass.
I get the impression that the current R&ER management are taking a more “commercial” outlook to the operation of the railway. It would be a shame if the current through fares, which I believe are discounted to encourage visitors to use public transport, are revised or withdrawn due to people “taking the Michael”.

 

[Jan Mayen]

Does the R&ER have a rover type ticket that allows visiting multiple stations over the course of a day/week/month/year?

 

[Haywain]

Does the R&ER have a rover type ticket that allows visiting multiple stations over the course of a day/week/month/year?

No, and their website states that if you want to go to an intermediate station you have to buy a single ticket to that specific station.

 

[Jan Mayen]

No, and their website states that if you want to go to an intermediate station you have to buy a single ticket to that specific station.

Many Thanks. I had read that, but assumed I'd missed it or it had been omitted. Pity

 

[Haywain]

Many Thanks. I had read that, but assumed I'd missed it or it had been omitted. Pity

The problem is that the attraction is the railway itself, rather than anything at any of the stations, so there's no real reason for using the intermediate stations.

 

[Jan Mayen]

Indeed. Although I was thinking of visiting The Green for the Japenese Garden. And the pub.