Daily Mail joins Nectar

[radamfi]

Now that you get Nectar points for buying the Mail, it has led to many people considering whether they want to continue using their Nectar card.

 

[gordonthemoron]

and how will that work? I've had enough trouble in the past trying to get points out of Pizza Express

 

[northwichcat]

and how will that work? I've had enough trouble in the past trying to get points out of Pizza Express

How to collect

Buy the Daily Mail and The Mail on Sunday newspapers
Enter your Unique Number printed on the back page of the Mail at MyMail.co.uk every day
Build your points balance and redeem great rewards

https://www.nectar.com/brands/daily-mail

Of course the Daily Mail readers won't want to sign up to a scheme run by a foreign company, will they?

 

[AlterEgo]

You've always been able to get Nectar points for buying the Mail, as long as you did so in Sainsbury's.

The sad people organising a petition about this need to get a life. https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petiti...&source=facebook-share-button&time=1502813086

 

[northwichcat]

You've always been able to get Nectar points for buying the Mail, as long as you did so in Sainsbury's.

Technically no as Nectar points are only given on transactions of £1 or more so the weekday editions are too cheap to get points at Sainsburys unless purchased alongside another item.

 

[trainmania100]

I havent been bothering using my nectar card for purchases cheaper than £3 as it seems hardly worth the effort to take it out of my wallet XD
I have about £10 saved up on my nectar card.

 

[northwichcat]

I havent been bothering using my nectar card for purchases cheaper than £3 as it seems hardly worth the effort to take it out of my wallet XD
I have about £10 saved up on my nectar card.

Yes 1.5p for £3 of shopping is hardly an incentive. Although, keep an eye out for offers on the Nectar website and add any ones you like. I spent £1.50 in Sainsburys the other day and got 11 points for it because of a bonus offer and if I shop in Sainsburys 4 times before the end of the month (which I probably won't) I could get a bonus 100 points.

 

[Busaholic]

Yes 1.5p for £3 of shopping is hardly an incentive. Although, keep an eye out for offers on the Nectar website and add any ones you like. I spent £1.50 in Sainsburys the other day and got 11 points for it because of a bonus offer and if I shop in Sainsburys 4 times before the end of the month (which I probably won't) I could get a bonus 100 points.

It's a rubbish scheme, far inferior to Sainsbury's own old Reward Card scheme which, for instance, gave you instant discounts on certain items when you shopped e.g if a pack of coffee cost £2.50 there'd be a sign saying 'only £2 with a Reward Card' - also you'd get coupons with your receipt which routinely offered you £10 off your next bill if you spent £60, say, and didn't just give you a week to redeem it either.

 

[DynamicSpirit]

The sad people organising a petition about this need to get a life. https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petiti...&source=facebook-share-button&time=1502813086

That seems unfair to me. The DM heavily pushes a political viewpoint - and indeed, one that many of us find very unpleasant. Any association between Nectar with the DM does seem to carry strong political connotations, which is not the case for most other businesses. Personally I can see a good argument for seeking to persuade other companies that associating with organisations like the DM carries bad consequences in terms of alienating customers, and for that reason I'm inclined to support the aims of the petition - and I'm fairly sure I don't need to 'get a life'.

Having said that, despite liking the aims of the petition, I'm unlikely to sign it because it's appallingly badly worded, and the vague accusation of 'newspaper full of hate' really needs a lot more substance. (Yes, I know, I was probably an aged schoolmaster in a past life).

 

[AlterEgo]

Any association between Nectar with the DM does seem to carry strong political connotations, which is not the case for most other businesses.

The Mail is an unpleasant rag which is often factually misleading or incorrect, but suggesting that Nectar partnering with them carries "strong political connotations" is nonsense. It's a (very weak) cashback deal for goodness' sake.

Some people will try and see politics in everything...

 

[SS4]

I spend my nectar points immediately as they're much less transferable than cash (I sound like captain obvious here!)

As for the Daily Mail I don't see any politics in this decision - just a cashback deal between two companies. What I do not want is my information to be shared with a far right organisation

edit: does anyone know how they can cancel/delete their nectar account?

 

[Bayum]

The Mail is an unpleasant rag which is often factually misleading or incorrect, but suggesting that Nectar partnering with them carries "strong political connotations" is nonsense. It's a (very weak) cashback deal for goodness' sake.

Some people will try and see politics in everything...

Just like Trump's Manufacturing Council businesses pulling out... What do they know about strong, political connotations afterall...:roll:

Perhaps you're vying to be his next right hand man?

 

[AlterEgo]

Just like Trump's Manufacturing Council businesses pulling out... What do they know about strong, political connotations afterall...:roll:

Perhaps you're vying to be his next right hand man?

Yes, Nectar offering less than a penny on the price of a right-wing pseudo-tabloid in useless cashback is absolutely equivalent to Donald Trump's Manufacturing Council, an actual political advisory body.

I mean, really, this is desperate stuff. I hate the Mail as much as anyone else but the daft outrage is preposterous.

 

[Bayum]

Yes, Nectar offering less than a penny on the price of a right-wing pseudo-tabloid in useless cashback is absolutely equivalent to Donald Trump's Manufacturing Council, an actual political advisory body.

I mean, really, this is desperate stuff. I hate the Mail as much as anyone else but the daft outrage is preposterous.

Groups refuse to buy certain make up products because of the association with animal testing.

Others refuse to buy particular types of eggs.

Others vote for particular parties.

Others shun papers due to their allegiance with particular parties. Therefore, it's understandable and not preposterous that people who feel strongly against the Mail and it's ridiculous reporting that they don't save with Nectar anymore.

Remember Lego? Did you call groups of people preposterous then?

 

[AlterEgo]

Groups refuse to buy certain make up products because of the association with animal testing.

Others refuse to buy particular types of eggs.

Others vote for particular parties.

Others shun papers due to their allegiance with particular parties. Therefore, it's understandable and not preposterous that people who feel strongly against the Mail and it's ridiculous reporting that they don't save with Nectar anymore.

Remember Lego? Did you call groups of people preposterous then?

Sorry, what about Lego?

People are entitled to buy or not buy whatever they like. They're also entitled to campaign or organise boycotts of certain products or brands. This is a free country. I am also allowed to say that if you think cashback on a right wing newspaper is equivalent to businesses withdrawing from Trump's advisory board after he refused to condemn Nazism, then that is preposterous. I am not stopping anyone from doing anything, rather just blowing a big raspberry at people I think are jumping on the outrage bus over a fraction of a penny cashback on the Mail.

Just to clarify once more, I really hate the Mail, and I don't buy it, or in fact any other newspaper.

 

[SS4]

This is a free country.

Not if May gets her way (how could people vote for her?!). She's already removed the right to privacy online but I am digressing off topic

 

[northwichcat]

Not if May gets her way (how could people vote for her?!). She's already removed the right to privacy online but I am digressing off topic

She says those of us with nothing to hide won't mind. Yet she's always trying to hide things when asked questions by journalists :roll:

 

[Tetchytyke]

Not if May gets her way (how could people vote for her?!). She's already removed the right to privacy online but I am digressing off topic

Download TOR while you can. But people who use social media (me included) don't have privacy. I probably trust May more than Zuckerberg. And I do still use Facebook.

As for Nectar linking with the daily mail, it doesn't bother me. I hate the mail but it sells a lot of copies. I also don't mind people noisily complaining. It's a commercial decision, it's up to people to show Nectar that it'll cost them more business than it'll generate.

 

[jon0844]

It's a rubbish scheme, far inferior to Sainsbury's own old Reward Card scheme which, for instance, gave you instant discounts on certain items when you shopped e.g if a pack of coffee cost £2.50 there'd be a sign saying 'only £2 with a Reward Card' - also you'd get coupons with your receipt which routinely offered you £10 off your next bill if you spent £60, say, and didn't just give you a week to redeem it either.

One reason I have pretty much stopped shopping at Sainsbury's is their illogical rewards, which I find an insult.

I know offers are meant to entice you to spend more money, but the way they issue vouchers for money off that last only a week when you've just spent £50 or £100 is crazy. Thank me for spending that much money by telling me I don't get anything unless I spend another £50 or £60 in a week!

I also get annoyed that Sainsbury's still have tills that can't scan a virtual Nectar card (on a phone) and won't let me enter the card number manually (as M&S does, by doing it in the enter code screen) so if I forget the card, I can't get the points. They also refuse to add points at customer service unless I have a physical card, so I end up not bothering as I'm not going back just to get points added, and will probably forget or lose the receipt anyway.

As such, I find that my blood pressure will do better if I shop somewhere else! Not perhaps what Sainbury's intended.. and I know I'm not alone from reading similar comments online.

Tesco does things SO much better (but I rarely shop there because of the way they've treated suppliers and more recently their own staff), and Waitrose is also pretty good by letting me to do my entire shop with my phone. I expect someone will tell me that besides them costing more for a lot of things, they also microwave kittens or something!

I don't see any harm in people voting with their feet on Nectar or anything else, but it does seem social media now does suffer from people almost bullying others to support their cause/standpoint. People can make up their own minds.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

She says those of us with nothing to hide won't mind. Yet she's always trying to hide things when asked questions by journalists :roll:

If I had to face similar questioning by journalists, some of the more obnoxious of whom seem to reveal an inner thwarted barrister during cross-examination, I would also treat their questioning with contempt, with possibly a riposte of askance of their credentials to perform such a task.

Ever watched the "Hard Talk" programme?

 

[SteveP29]

If I had to face similar questioning by journalists, some of the more obnoxious of whom seem to reveal an inner thwarted barrister during cross-examination, I would also treat their questioning with contempt, with possibly a riposte of askance of their credentials to perform such a task.

Ever watched the "Hard Talk" programme?

Ever actually seen her ANSWER a question?
Or do you pick up the deflection and waffle that I always seem to see and hear?

 

[northwichcat]

If I had to face similar questioning by journalists, some of the more obnoxious of whom seem to reveal an inner thwarted barrister during cross-examination, I would also treat their questioning with contempt, with possibly a riposte of askance of their credentials to perform such a task.

Ever watched the "Hard Talk" programme?

Some PMs have been better at answering questions than others. Cameron and Blair were both bad at giving straight answers but responded in a more effective matter than May does. They may not have given a proper answer to the question but they did manage to come up with some vaguely related statistics to justify why their approach was better than that of the previous administration. On the other hand May comes up with claims that have no meaning like "Brexit means Brexit" and "We will implement a red, white and blue Brexit."

Although, I do agree that some journalists just want to make the headlines. The pre-election Andrew Neil interviews are one such example - he spent the majority of one program questioning Corbyn about his IRA links and the majority of another questioning Farron about whether he thought gay sex was a sin. Surely the electorate is more interested in how much tax they will be paying and what the government will do with tax receipts.

 

[D365]

I havent been bothering using my nectar card for purchases cheaper than £3 as it seems hardly worth the effort to take it out of my wallet XD
I have about £10 saved up on my nectar card.

You can order any number of keyfobs for free online. Additionally I use my nectar card when purchasing rail tickets through VTEC. It's easy to rack up 500 or 1000 points at a time through Nectar's bonus offers, or redeem points on Advance tickets.

I could go into quite some detail about the bonus points that I've managed to collect

 

[northwichcat]

You can order any number of keyfobs for free online. Additionally I use my nectar card when purchasing rail tickets through VTEC. It's easy to rack up 500 or 1000 points at a time through Nectar's bonus offers, or redeem points on Advance tickets.

I could go into quite some detail about the bonus points that I've managed to collect

Haymarket to Edinburgh child tickets seem to be very popular when VTEC do Nectar offers.

There was an offer very recently that allowed me to place an order for £13.99 at Photobox (including P&P) and to get £12.50 back in Nectar points, so effectively £1.49 for three large photo prints, two medium sized ones and a number of small regular sized ones.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

I also get annoyed that Sainsbury's still have tills that can't scan a virtual Nectar card (on a phone) and won't let me enter the card number manually (as M&S does, by doing it in the enter code screen) so if I forget the card, I can't get the points. They also refuse to add points at customer service unless I have a physical card, so I end up not bothering as I'm not going back just to get points added, and will probably forget or lose the receipt anyway.

My wife at the age of 75 finds that having a REAL Nectar card in the card section of her purse to be no trouble to her whatsoever. She has never had any problems when tendering it at the checkout.

 

[Busaholic]

One reason I have pretty much stopped shopping at Sainsbury's is their illogical rewards, which I find an insult.

I know offers are meant to entice you to spend more money, but the way they issue vouchers for money off that last only a week when you've just spent £50 or £100 is crazy. Thank me for spending that much money by telling me I don't get anything unless I spend another £50 or £60 in a week!

I also get annoyed that Sainsbury's still have tills that can't scan a virtual Nectar card (on a phone) and won't let me enter the card number manually (as M&S does, by doing it in the enter code screen) so if I forget the card, I can't get the points. They also refuse to add points at customer service unless I have a physical card, so I end up not bothering as I'm not going back just to get points added, and will probably forget or lose the receipt anyway.

As such, I find that my blood pressure will do better if I shop somewhere else! Not perhaps what Sainbury's intended.. and I know I'm not alone from reading similar comments online.

Tesco does things SO much better (but I rarely shop there because of the way they've treated suppliers and more recently their own staff), and Waitrose is also pretty good by letting me to do my entire shop with my phone. I expect someone will tell me that besides them costing more for a lot of things, they also microwave kittens or something!

I don't see any harm in people voting with their feet on Nectar or anything else, but it does seem social media now does suffer from people almost bullying others to support their cause/standpoint. People can make up their own minds.

The latest insulting offer I've had from Sainsbury is that, if I spend a total of £120 in dribs and drabs by early September I'll be granted a whole 500 Nectar points as a bonus: they don't say this, and presumably hope most people don't bother working it out for themselves, but that's 'worth' a whole £2.50!! What's more, the points won't just be put onto my card, but will be presented to me on a voucher which I will have to spot and present with my next purchase after that, so many will get discarded. What possible incentive do Sainsbury's think this is?

 

[SS4]

The latest insulting offer I've had from Sainsbury is that, if I spend a total of £120 in dribs and drabs by early September I'll be granted a whole 500 Nectar points as a bonus: they don't say this, and presumably hope most people don't bother working it out for themselves, but that's 'worth' a whole £2.50!! What's more, the points won't just be put onto my card, but will be presented to me on a voucher which I will have to spot and present with my next purchase after that, so many will get discarded. What possible incentive do Sainsbury's think this is?

They don't need to offer much of an incentive for anyone who regularly shops there on said regular visits. They want to entice the shopper to come in between those periods which is why the offer always expires before your next planned visit. Those who do not shop regularly likely get better offers (I can confirm anecdotally but not wide scale).

They also offer big numbers to trick the brain into thinking the deal is better than it actually is and hope nobody actually does the maths - 500 points sounds very good doesn't it? Whereas £2.50 most definitely doesn't. Add in that you must spend £120 and that £2.50 is insignificant (for anyone wondering £2.50 is 2.08% of £120)

 

[jon0844]

My wife at the age of 75 finds that having a REAL Nectar card in the card section of her purse to be no trouble to her whatsoever. She has never had any problems when tendering it at the checkout.

I dislike carrying a wallet, and have a small one for physical cards - but that can't take all the cards I have (accounting for loyalty cards, ID cards and so on).

Of course I could try and remember to take the right card for the right trip, but I don't. I have nearly all cards on Android Pay, and the phone shows the relevant number/barcode on demand (often automatically as it knows where I am).

As I don't carry a handbag, I don't have the luxury of taking half the house as my wife does!

 

[jon0844]

They don't need to offer much of an incentive for anyone who regularly shops there on said regular visits. They want to entice the shopper to come in between those periods which is why the offer always expires before your next planned visit. Those who do not shop regularly likely get better offers (I can confirm anecdotally but not wide scale).

They also offer big numbers to trick the brain into thinking the deal is better than it actually is and hope nobody actually does the maths - 500 points sounds very good doesn't it? Whereas £2.50 most definitely doesn't. Add in that you must spend £120 and that £2.50 is insignificant (for anyone wondering £2.50 is 2.08% of £120)

Yes, when you don't shop for a while they're more generous. Problem is they don't tailor an offer properly.

I don't go for two months for whatever reason. Then for convenience, decide to do a big shop there. Spend £50-100 or more.

You then get the voucher saying 'spend £100 in a week' for xxx points.

Erm, don't think so. You really think you're thanking me by making me pay double even though I haven't shopped with you regularly for ages?

Smaller offers, like 'we missed you, have xxx points if you return in two weeks' would be far more appreciated.

I think it's all just bad planning on the part of Sainsbury's. Or they're so arrogant they think that once you've come back once, they've 'got you'.

Perhaps they are right and it does work, but I really do feel insulted by the offers and the hoops they make you jump through.

 

[SS4]

Yes, when you don't shop for a while they're more generous. Problem is they don't tailor an offer properly.

I don't go for two months for whatever reason. Then for convenience, decide to do a big shop there. Spend £50-100 or more.

You then get the voucher saying 'spend £100 in a week' for xxx points.

Erm, don't think so. You really think you're thanking me by making me pay double even though I haven't shopped with you regularly for ages?

Smaller offers, like 'we missed you, have xxx points if you return in two weeks' would be far more appreciated.

I think it's all just bad planning on the part of Sainsbury's. Or they're so arrogant they think that once you've come back once, they've 'got you'.

Perhaps they are right and it does work, but I really do feel insulted by the offers and the hoops they make you jump through.

Oh I agree. I'm a fairly regular but low spender there and I get a load of triple points next time which is undoubtedly hoped to get me to spend more for those points (which are basically worthless). Perhaps that's just personalised for me though and is different for you and your spending pattern.

It's definitely insulting the way they use vouchers to get you to do a major shop after just doing one.

My wife at the age of 75 finds that having a REAL Nectar card in the card section of her purse to be no trouble to her whatsoever. She has never had any problems when tendering it at the checkout.

I don't doubt it but it's nice to have options.QR codes have been around for years and are widely used