DB class 90 locomotive sighting at Kings cross

[Gadget88]

I seen a DB German engine pulling a LNER train today at Kings cross is this common to happen? Is it due to shortages?

 

[class387]

Probably a DB Schenker liveried Class 90, which is a British train and in use as a spare.

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

I think you will have seen an ex-BR Class 90 on an LNER service.
DB Cargo have a fleet of 90s normally used on their freight trains, but they hire them out to other TOCs as well.
LNER need extra locos because of a shortage of Class 91s.
They are indeed DB locos, but they don't have German provenance.
So far, no foreign-based locos have ventured onto UK tracks, if we discount Eurotunnel and some emergency workings on HS1.
They would be out of gauge on our smaller profile network, and would not be equipped with Network Rail safety protection (AWS/TPWS) and other UK standard kit.

To further confuse, 3 class 90s were painted up in 1992 by BR into then DB, SNCB and SNCF livery as part of a joint promotion.
DB bought the EWS business from Canadian National in 2007 and slowly repainted the class 90s into DB Schenker livery.
A later reorganisation renamed the TOC as DB Cargo.

 

[DarloRich]

No you didn't see a German db train. It is either a class 90 or a class 67 and I suspect the former.

 

[61653 HTAFC]

Funny how a German government agency (sort of) and a British government agency (sort of) can work so well together... and on the railway of all places!

 

[tgrb]

some emergency workings on HS1.

I’d be interested to hear about these... if anyone knows of further info please could you point me there or share?

 

[Sybic26]

I’d be interested to hear about these... if anyone knows of further info please could you point me there or share?

Eurotunnel has ten former NS (Dutch Railways) Bo-Bo class 6400, five of them were purchased from DB Cargo, which work on engineering trains and rescue trains on HS1 and Channel Tunnel lines. I understood that they have visited St Pancras station.

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

Before the Class 92s were available, SNCF class 222xx were used through the Channel Tunnel and reached Dollands Moor on freight trains.

 

[randyrippley]

Before the Class 92s were available, SNCF class 222xx were used through the Chanel Tunnel and reached Dollands Moor on freight trains.

so whats used now, given that the 92 fleet seem to be either derelict or close to it?

 

[DanNCL]

so whats used now, given that the 92 fleet seem to be either derelict or close to it?

The GBRF 92s are still operational and haul trains through the tunnel.

 

[Townsend Hook]

so whats used now, given that the 92 fleet seem to be either derelict or close to it?

Still plenty of 92s in use with DB and GBRf, which work freight through the Channel Tunnel amongst other duties.

 

[ic31420]

Whatever happened with the 91 that suffered some sort of internal meltdown at the beginning of the year and was close to being written off.... 91111 perhaps?

 

[Bornin1980s]

Did the loco have a yellow end? If so, it's part of the British ex-EWS
Fleet.

 

[87electric]

Whatever happened with the 91 that suffered some sort of internal meltdown at the beginning of the year and was close to being written off.... 91111 perhaps?

91119. Last I read it will be on its way back sometime.

 

[pdeaves]

So far, no foreign-based locos have ventured onto UK tracks,

Except some 'class 66s' that GB Railfreight(?) bought, and that Captrain one dragged to a maintenance facility recently (albeit not under its own power).

 

[djpontrack]

I seen a DB German engine pulling a LNER train today at Kings cross is this common to happen? Is it due to shortages?

Was it this that you saw Gadget88? I took these pictures in Leeds station on the 23 of September. It was on an LNER service from Kings Cross.

 

[BowesRanger]

Are there no 125mph capable locomotives they could use instead?

Or is it not worth it?

 

[gazthomas]

Are there no 125mph capable locomotives they could use instead?

Or is it not worth it?

Not electric. Class 67s would take too long to get to 125mph, that is if they were allowed to do so these days

 

[43096]

Are there no 125mph capable locomotives they could use instead?

No.

Not sure why there's still a debate going on about this - the OP's question has been answered.