You've got to love the internet - was remembering some District line carriages with partitions within the carriages that used to mark out first class sections and the Wikipedia entry for the O and P stock has a great picture.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Underground_O_and_P_Stock
If you look inside the COP car carefully you can also see the decorative half moon glass on the seat back of the two further transverse seats.
Certainly the image on the left was taken at Upminster; its possible that the other one was as well - to know for sure I'd need to refer to the 35mm film negatives in my negative file.
I just wish that I'd filmed more of these trains, and what I did film had been filmed better, especially with my super 8 camera - I also tried recording sound using my portable 'ghetto blaster' radio cassette machine* but it let me down. On other trains (1962 tube stock and BR slam door trains out of Liverpool St) I used a walkman type cassette machine, but probably the reason I did not do this with the subsurface CO/CP/R stock trains is that they'd already been withdrawn before I bought the Walkman device.
anyway, one day I'll find the time to create a webpage with everything I have and also make a youtube version. Which reminds me, I'm about to digitise some 1990 footage from Embankment - 1959, 1972 tube stock and more. Then all I need is an S stock train from that station and I can create another 'contrasts' video for my youtube channel (citytransportinfo).
*This was done from the lineside near Kew Gardens station, where I also attempted to record class 501 and 416 trains on the North London Line. I still have the cassette tape but dont remember which train was which! Ditto for 1938 tube stock and Class 501 trains near to Carpenders Park station.
Simon
ps: has anyone ever seen decent photos of the trains used on the Southend Corridor Express Ealing Broadway - Southend On Sea through trains? I assume that these too offered 1st class accomodation.
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The system defaults to saying "first and standard" for any train which it doesn't have the information for. For instance the
Stockport to Stalybridge parliamentary service is shown as having first class despite normally being a Pacer.
If recent news stories are correct then soon there will be three classes of rail travel again - first, standard and sardine tin steerage.
:mad:
Simon
