GWR Class 769 information. (Units no longer with GWR - Off Lease March 23)

[Class319&373]

Does anyone know if the 769 utilised the third rail during yesterday's test? As I was at Wokingham as it crossed back onto the electric part and expected the engines to cut out as it passed through but they didn't. I do know from spotting the Northern ones that the engines take a while before they fully cut off during the changeover, so I imagine if I'd gone to Winnersh it would have been in electric mode.

 

[spark001uk]

Does anyone know if the 769 utilised the third rail during yesterday's test? As I was at Wokingham as it crossed back onto the electric part and expected the engines to cut out as it passed through but they didn't. I do know from spotting the Northern ones that the engines take a while before they fully cut off during the changeover, so I imagine if I'd gone to Winnersh it would have been in electric mode.

I think at the moment they were more interested in checking gauging. I know they have put a unit into the swr bays at Reading recently to check the DC system though.

 

[Class319&373]

I think at the moment they were more interested in checking gauging. I know they have put a unit into the swr bays at Reading recently to check the DC system though.

Ok thanks, that makes sense

 

[TJDevon]

Is there an up to date list showing the progress of the GWR 319/769 conversions. I remember seeing one, somewhere, a few months ago. Thanks in advance for any information.

 

[JonathanH]

Is there an up to date list showing the progress of the GWR 319/769 conversions. I remember seeing one, somewhere, a few months ago. Thanks in advance for any information.

There is a master list in the main / Northern 769 thread updated to 9 May
https://www.railforums.co.uk/thread...lly-for-northern.138660/page-175#post-5125088

Best thing to do to find such lists is to search for one of the relevant units (eg 769943)

 

[The_Train]

Here is the latest list I have:

Number	Ex No.	Livery	TOC	Depot/Location	Current State
769002	319002	TfW	TfW	Cardiff Canton	In Service
769003	319003	TfW	TfW	Cardiff Canton	In Service
769006	319006	TfW	TfW	Cardiff Canton	In Service
769007	319007	TfW	TfW	Cardiff Canton	In Service
769008	319008	TfW	TfW	Cardiff Canton	In Service
769421	319421	TfW	TfW	Cardiff Canton	In Service
769424	319424	Northern	Northern	Allerton	In Service
769426	319426	Ex TL White & Blue Doors	TfW	Loughborough Works	Converted - undergoing further maintenance
769431	319431	Northern	Northern	Allerton	In Service
769434	319434	Northern	Northern	Allerton	In Service
769442	319442	Northern	Northern	Allerton	In Service
769445	319445	TfW	TfW	Cardiff Canton	In Service
769448	319448	Northern	Northern	Allerton	In Service
769450	319450	Northern	Northern	Allerton	In Service
769452	319452	TfW	TfW	Cardiff Canton	In Service
769456	319456	Northern	Northern	Allerton	In Service
769458	319458	Northern	Northern	Allerton	In Service
769501	319009	Orion Dark & Light Blue	ROG	Loughborough Works	Undergoing conversion
769502	319010	Orion Dark & Light Blue	ROG	Eastleigh Works	Conversion to 769 complete - internal work ongoing
769503			ROG		Conversion work yet to start
769504			ROG		Conversion work yet to start
769505			ROG		Conversion work yet to start
769506			ROG		Conversion work yet to start
769507			ROG		Conversion work yet to start
769508			ROG		Conversion work yet to start
769509			ROG		Conversion work yet to start
769510			ROG		Conversion work yet to start
769922	319422	Ex TL White & Blue Doors	GWR	Wolverton Works	Conversion work yet to start
769923	319423	GWR Green	GWR	Wolverton Works	Conversion work yet to start
769925	319425	GWR Green	GWR	Nemesis Rail, Burton	Conversion complete - stored, awaiting testing
769927	319427	Ex TL White & Blue Doors	GWR	Loughborough Works	Undergoing conversion
769928	319428	GWR Green	GWR	Nemesis Rail, Burton	Converted - awaiting testing
769930	319430	GWR Green	GWR	Reading Traincare	Undergoing acceptance exam
769932	319432	GWR Green	GWR	Nemesis Rail, Burton	Converted - awaiting testing
769935	319435	Ex TL White & Blue Doors	GWR	Long Marston	Conversion work yet to start
769936	319436	GWR Green	GWR	Long Marston	Converted - awaiting testing
769937	319437	GWR Green	GWR	Wolverton Works	Converted - awaiting testing
769938	319438	Ex TL White & Blue Doors	GWR	Nemesis Rail, Burton	Converted - awaiting testing
769939	319439	GWR Green	GWR	Nemesis Rail, Burton	Converted - awaiting testing
769940	319440	Ex TL White & Blue Doors	GWR	Wolverton Works	Undergoing conversion
769943	319443	GWR Green	GWR	Reading Traincare	Undergoing testing
769944	319444	Ex TL White & Blue Doors	GWR	Derby RTC	Conversion work yet to start
769946	319446	GWR Green	GWR	Reading Traincare	Undergoing testing
769947	319447	Ex TL White & Blue Doors	GWR	Wolverton Works	Conversion work yet to start
769949	319449	GWR Green	GWR	Nemesis Rail, Burton	Conversion complete - stored, awaiting testing
769959	319459	GWR Green	GWR	Nemesis Rail, Burton	Conversion complete - stored, awaiting testing

Bold items are those updated since I last posted

 

[FenMan]

New platform markings have turned up at Blackwater and Farnborough, including a neat scheme of zones. Intriguingly, everything is designed around 6 sets of doors opening. Maybe someone didn't get the memo about 769s replacing the Turbos?

 

[JonathanH]

New platform markings have turned up at Blackwater and Farnborough, including a neat scheme of zones. Intriguingly, everything is designed around 6 sets of doors opening. Maybe someone didn't get the memo about 769s replacing the Turbos?

Even though 769s are due to replace Turbos, it isn't going to happen that quickly. There may well be a short term need to ensure people queue around the doors of Turbos in an orderly fashion as numbers of passengers grow.

 

[WSnook37025]

319009 confirmed as 769502 here > News (railopsgroup.co.uk)

 

[FGW_DID]

319009 confirmed as 769502 here > News (railopsgroup.co.uk)

This is the thread about GWR‘s Class 769, main thread for everything else 769 is here:

Porterbrook Cl.769 'Flex' trains from 319s, initially for Northern

This has been brought up in two different threads but probably warrants it's own thread: 319427 has gone for to Brush to see if 319s can have diesel engines put on them and used as bi modes for Northern. 319427 is at Brush for evaluation to see if the concept if possible, with diesel...

www.railforums.co.uk

 

[TJDevon]

Has the seating capacity of these units changed during their morph from 319s?

 

[Jan Mayen]

Will they have first class? And/or a trolley?

 

[43102EMR]

Will they have first class? And/or a trolley?

From what I’ve seen, it’s the same scenario as Northern’s 769s in that first class seating is retained, but the standard moquette is used and it’s declassified.

 

[TEW]

Has the seating capacity of these units changed during their morph from 319s?

I believe so. From what I could see from the platform the other day the areas of 2+2 seating the units had as 319/4s have been changed back to 3+2.

 

[Pacerman99]

I believe so. From what I could see from the platform the other day the areas of 2+2 seating the units had as 319/4s have been changed back to 3+2.

They've been fitted with additional luggage stacks as well for the Gatwick routes (I think 4 per carriage)

 

[3973EXL]

10/06

Realtime Trains - FRGT 0945 Burton Ot Wetmore Sidings to Reading Traincare Depot

Caped

 

[HamworthyGoods]

Will they have first class? And/or a trolley?

They’ll have first class for the north downs I understand in a similar way first class was reclassified back (having been declassified previously) on 165/3 cars for this route.

 

[Minstral25]

They’ll have first class for the north downs I understand in a similar way first class was reclassified back (having been declassified previously) on 165/3 cars for this route.

GwR Stock Facilities booklet says they have 12 first class seats behind one cab in 2+1 configuration

 

[Melancholia]

10/06

Realtime Trains - FRGT 0945 Burton Ot Wetmore Sidings to Reading Traincare Depot

Hmm, was activated, but looks like isn't running

 

[warwickshire]

Hmm, was activated, but looks like isn't running

In fact move didn't run unit still at burton Wetmore.

 

[FGW_DID]

Monday 14th: 5Q10 769 FFR trip is on the North Downs.

Realtime Trains - 580G 0754 Reading Traincare Depot to Reading Traincare Depot

Realtime Trains provides live realtime running information for the Great British railway network using open data.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

 

[3973EXL]

STP 15/06

Realtime Trains - FRGT 0945 Burton Ot Wetmore Sidings to Reading Traincare Depot

 

[FGW_DID]

Will they have first class? And/or a trolley?

Yes, they have got first class. 769930 has just acquired some new decals, which includes a nice shiny yellow strip above the FC compartment.

769930 venturing out to Long Marston today (Sun 13/06) for Rail Live 2021:

Realtime Trains - 5Q20 1025 Reading Traincare Depot to Long Marston

 

[Deepgreen]

Yes, they have got first class. 769930 has just acquired some new decals, which includes a nice shiny yellow strip above the FC compartment.

769930 venturing out to Long Marston today (Sun 13/06) for Rail Live 2021:

Realtime Trains - 5Q20 1025 Reading Traincare Depot to Long Marston

On GWR - surely not?! A pencil-thin silver line that's all-but-invisble must surely be better.

 

[fgwrich]

On GWR - surely not?! A pencil-thin silver line that's all-but-invisble must surely be better.

They do, somewhat surprisingly, seem to have learnt that a yellow stripe is better. I would be interested to know if the recent changes are TOC or DfT / PRM led, a few of the recent returnee's from Doncaster (HST) have the newer signage and SWR style 'flags' which do look a lot better.

 

[Sean Emmett]

Monday 14th: 5Q10 769 FFR trip is on the North Downs.

Realtime Trains - 580G 0754 Reading Traincare Depot to Reading Traincare Depot

Realtime Trains provides live realtime running information for the Great British railway network using open data.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

I see this is on the move. RTT showing it as a locomotive?

 

[FGW_DID]

I see this is on the move. RTT showing it as a locomotive?

That’s only the timing load, it’s definitely a 769. Should be 769943.

 

[Sean Emmett]

That’s only the timing load, it’s definitely a 769. Should be 769943.

Thanks. Arrived Redhill 1 early.

 

[Deepgreen]

Today's test run. 769943 appeared to be running without tail-lights, at least on the outbound run, with both legs of the working seen here near Betchworth.

 

[Minstral25]

Saw it on my morning walk heading up to Redhill - couldn't hear the engines so may have been on third rail (expect not though as it is a long descent) and then again at Reigate on return