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I was caught using my dad’s railway pass

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I was caught using my dad’s railway pass and I am worried that he will get in trouble. I am very remorseful and I am willing to pay fines. What is the process?
 
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AlterEgo

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What sort of pass was it exactly?
What journey were you making?
Where were you caught, and by which company?
What did you say to the person who caught you?
 

Haywain

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I was caught using my dad’s railway pass and I am worried that he will get in trouble.
There would seem to be quite a strong possibility of that - he could even lose his job. Does he know about this? If he doesn't you need to tell him as a matter of urgency.
 
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What sort of pass was it exactly?
What journey were you making?
Where were you caught, and by which company?
What did you say to the person who caught you?
It was a railway card pass
I was making a journey from Luton to London, which is the thameslink
I was caught by inspectors and I said I don’t want my dad to get in trouble and I was very remorseful. I am willing to pay the fines and never do this again

There would seem to be quite a strong possibility of that - he could even lose his job. Does he know about this? If he doesn't you need to tell him as a matter of urgency.
I have told him, i don’t want him to lose his job. My God. I will pay the fines. He has been a driver for 20 years and he is receiving his pension now
 

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He has been a driver for 20 years and he is receiving his pension now
So, is he retired or is he working for a train company?

I think it would also help us to understand what age you are - are you financially dependant on your dad?
 

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Your dad cannot be held responsible for your actions. You took his belongings without his knowledge. If the TOC even attempts to go down the disciplinary route, it would be firmly fought by his union. I am confident of that.
 
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So, is he retired or is he working for a train company?

I think it would also help us to understand what age you are - are you financially dependant on your dad?
He is a bus driver and I am not financially dependent on him. I recently started a new job
 

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Your dad cannot be held responsible for your actions. You took his belongings without his knowledge. If the TOC even attempts to go down the disciplinary route, it would be firmly fought by his union.
That would be wishful thinking, but it seems he is retired anyway. If he is not working for the railway he can't lose his job over this.
 
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Your dad will not lose his job.
What did they do the Inspectors?
Were you interviewed or did they Penalty Fare you and give you a sheet of paper. Telling you that you can appeal and/or pay within 21 days?
Or did they just give you a warning?
I hope not, he doesn’t deserve that. I was interviewed and told that they would be sending a letter to my address

That would be wishful thinking, but it seems he is retired anyway. If he is not working for the railway he can't lose his job over this.
He is a bus driver
 

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Just for clarity, as I am not sure where your statement that he is a bus driver relates to a railway pass. Is the pass he has one for retired railway staff and he is no longer a railway employee? Or was he a railway employee and is now a bus driver? I think we need to know what status he has as an employee or former employee? And what company or companies are involved?

We are talking about a staff free travel pass of some sort, not a season ticket, are we?
 
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Just for clarity, as I am not sure where your statement that he is a bus driver relates to a railway pass. Is the pass he has one for retired railway staff and he is no longer a railway employee? Or was he a railway employee and is now a bus driver? I think we need to know what status he has as an employee or former employee? And what company or companies are involved?

We are talking about a staff free travel pass of some sort, not a season ticket, are we?
Yes he is a bus driver and has a staff free pass for the year. He has never been a railway employee. He is a bus driver and has been for 20 years
 
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Haywain

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London bus drivers get free travel on TfL rail services
But not on Thameslink from Luton to London, so the OP didn't have a valid ticket of any sort, and the pass might be incidental to the matter.
 

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The OP might be confused. Some bus companies get concession. The OP did say Annual Pass.

It is probably best you look at the pass and write down on here what it is.
 

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Some Go Ahead bus drivers get a concession on Go Ahead rail, but but not sure of the full score with those.
 

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